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You were going to build a dedicated long range, 1000 yard bench gun and had a budget for the rifle of $1000.00 what would you build and why? Please keep responses to items actually available. Weight not terribly important, nor are looks.

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I don’t think you can build one for $1000. Just saw a Tikka action sell for nearly $600. If it were me looking for a 1000yd gun, I’d look for a used Ruger Precision, Savage Stealth, Tikka CTR or something along those lines.

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I think you just narrowed it down to a salvage, which is what I shoot currently. It’s damn sure a budget accurate rock.

But the cheapest 10/110 and screw a good barrel on it.

The only other option is a Tikka CTR that I know of.

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$1000 makes it pretty tough to do much. I haven’t checked prices lately but last I knew a good barrel is going to be $350ish and then add chambering and we’ll over half your budget is gone. The best route might be to fine tune a heavy barreled Tikka or even Ruger American and then concentrate on load work up.

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Savage precision Elite

DONE

Oh, you will need a $2000 scope though.


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My Tikka CTR in 6.5 creed was $900 when I bought it. Burris XTRII 3-15x I bought used for prob $500. 6" average group at 1100 using Hornady American gunner 140. Smaller with my handloads. Can't imagine getting it done for much cheaper really.

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$1000 for just the rifle?

Tikka CTR 6.5 Creedmoor


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Bergara B14 HMR in a 6cm or 6.5 cm
I seen more 6cm on shelfs than 6.5 and the 6 will take half the elevation that the 6.5 will to get to distance.

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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
$1000 for just the rifle?

Tikka CTR 6.5 Creedmoor


Good rifle and legs to 1400 yards with hand loads!!

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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
$1000 for just the rifle?

Tikka CTR 6.5 Creedmoor



Still a roll of the dice for a 1000 yard gun


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I am attempting this exact trick. I bought a used savage from here, sold off some parts from it so the action and stock was $400. Bought a Jard trigger and a mcgowen 260 barrel for a little less than $600 for both. So I'm coming right at $1000. Haven't had time to shoot it yet but ultimately the plan is to shoot at my local f class matches.

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Thanks for all the great information. Another question: Would spending an extra $500 get a rifle 50% more accurate?


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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Thanks for all the great information. Another question: Would spending an extra $500 get a rifle 50% more accurate?



I’m going to say absolutely not. The CTR is hard to beat without going to a semi-custom and don’t think it can be done for $1500 unless you happen across cheap donor parts.

Someone above stated the CTR wouldn’t do well at 1000. I disagree. Sure you can spend significantly more money and get more performance, not $500 more though.

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Sounds like the CTR is the way to go. Thanks for all the great information. 20 or 24 inch barrel?


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That’s a maybe….you can get pre-chambered, custom barrels (Shilen, McGowan and probably more) for $500 but there’s no guarantee on how much they will improve on what you have. I’d think it would be best to start with something like the CTR, which should give you 1/2 MOA ( or better) then consider changing down the road.


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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Sounds like the CTR is the way to go. Thanks for all the great information. 20 or 24 inch barrel?



20 or 24 is a good question. The shorter the barrel the less harmonics, the longer you get more velocity.


Two guys I shoot with from work have CTRs. One is a 20” .260 and the other a 24” Needmoor. The 24” is shooting factory ammo slower than the 20” handloads. Both shoot excellent.

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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Sounds like the CTR is the way to go. Thanks for all the great information. 20 or 24 inch barrel?

I had both but ended up selling the 24” after I picked up a Bergara Premier HMR with a 24” barrel. For me the 20 was handier while hunting. Both the 20 and 24 were excellent shooters.

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In the 1500 range you could also look at the Bergara Premier HMR. Nice adjustable stock, trigger tech trigger, uses ai mags, stainless action and barrel that’s ceracoated. Custom feel in a factory package.

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Like others mentioned. Factory Tikka or Bergara.

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How about a Remington 700 5R in 6.5 CM, out of the box they'll shoot. Today there $1000-1200 I think.
Wife and I each shoot one's with upgrades at the 500 yard steel matches and are contenders. I'd have no problem shooting out to 1K, but have a .338 Edge for the 1K stuff launching a 300 gr. SMK, better for the wind on the long stuff.

Buy what you like and will be happy with, don't settle. You'll have it for a long time.

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$1000 for just the rifle?

Tikka CTR 6.5 Creedmoor



Still a roll of the dice for a 1000 yard gun


Yeah a roll if I wanted a 95% chance of a 7 or 11 on each roll.

I'll take that bet every day.

I can hit 1000 routinely with a .223 Rem that's hand loaded. Give me that CTR and I have zero concern.


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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Thanks for all the great information. Another question: Would spending an extra $500 get a rifle 50% more accurate?


No.

To go from 1/2 MOA to 1/4 MOA often requires $3000 worth of rifle, and another <$1000 worth of load development and ammo.

It is an unforgiving curve on the pocketbook.


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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Sounds like the CTR is the way to go. Thanks for all the great information. 20 or 24 inch barrel?


20" being shorter and stiffer shoots more powder charges well, but sacrifices 100 fps from the 24"

24" makes more speed, but is more picky on terrific powder charge from decent powder charge, from really bad powder charge.


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Originally Posted by angus1956
How about a Remington 700 5R in 6.5 CM, out of the box they'll shoot. Today there $1000-1200 I think.
Wife and I each shoot one's with upgrades at the 500 yard steel matches and are contenders. I'd have no problem shooting out to 1K, but have a .338 Edge for the 1K stuff launching a 300 gr. SMK, better for the wind on the long stuff.

Buy what you like and will be happy with, don't settle. You'll have it for a long time.

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Seen lots of bad Reminton 700's.

Seen zero bad Tikkas, especially Tikka CTRs.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
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How about a Remington 700 5R in 6.5 CM, out of the box they'll shoot. Today there $1000-1200 I think.
Wife and I each shoot one's with upgrades at the 500 yard steel matches and are contenders. I'd have no problem shooting out to 1K, but have a .338 Edge for the 1K stuff launching a 300 gr. SMK, better for the wind on the long stuff.

Buy what you like and will be happy with, don't settle. You'll have it for a long time.

Good luck,



Seen lots of bad Reminton 700's.

Seen zero bad Tikkas, especially Tikka CTRs.

I got two good ones I'm happy.
Had them bedded, trigger tec Triggers installed, breaks installed and Cheek pieces added.

Please explain what you've seen as bad 700's.

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