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anyone have any idea what the resale is like on them?

My current and previous truck have both been 3/4 ton diesels. Pro's to the 3/4 ton diesels are they look good, have gobs of power, tough as nails and the resale on them is fantastic, which since I trade off every 3 years is a huge plus.


Due to current diesel prices and me wanting to downsize a tad I've begun looking at 1/2 ton diesels. The two guys I know get pretty good mileage in them and believe it or not, get better mileage towing a boat or trailer than I do in my 3/4 ton.


One pause i have is the resale......with 100-150k on them, are you going to take a beating like you would in a gas engine truck?


I like the 3/4 ton platform but I don't need a diesel in one ( and a gas engine in a 3/4 ton is out of the question).....The only load I've pulled in the last 3 years that would have justified a HD truck I probably could have managed with a 1/2 ton. I could certainly appreciate 25-30 mpg in a easier to manage truck. They only downside would be the smaller bed as I regularly haul 30-35 sacks of feed but I do have a 12' trailer i could employ. Heaviest thing I tow on the reg is a 4500 lb trailer w/ can am and a 5000 lb boat.....which a 3.0 diesel in either flavor should be able to pull handily.



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I can’t see them holding value as well as a 3/4 to 1-ton diesel. Everything wrapped around and supporting that small diesel isn’t as strong as what’s wrapped and supporting the bigger diesels. With diesel fuel getting more and more expensive, I’m sure the diesel vehicle market will be tanking rather quickly. I’m hoping within a year that the MegaCab I want is back down to around $50k


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No way to know what the market will bear. Right now a 15 year old 200K mile 2500 diesel is worth $25K or more. Doesn't mean it still will be in three years when you'll be trading. If the price bubble pops it won't matter what the resale is. Getting a new 1500 diesel equipped the way you want won't be easy either right now.


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I wouldn’t want one for multiple reasons.

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I wouldn’t want one for multiple reasons.



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Re: Another 1/2 ton diesel thread [Re: LonestarCobra] #8594243 05/09/22 12:23 PM
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I wouldn’t want one for multiple reasons.



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Exactly

I switched over this past year and am not looking back. The 3.0 baby duramax runs great, gets great mpgs, and has way more pulling power than even the 6.2L gas does in the half tons much less comparing it to a 5.3L. There is no comparison.

The added fuel mileage is basically a wash with the higher price of diesel but I wouldn't care if it wasn't. I like when I put a low boy behind it I can still get 15-16mpg with a couple tons of feed on it and with a 16' trailer empty it gets 19+ all day long. I've not filled it up one time since I got it where the avg mpg was less than 24.8 and the average has been about 26 or a little better. My 5.3 got about 19-20 on average.


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I have owned both the 3.0 Duramax and currently own the Ram Eco. On a dozen occasions my Denali would not start. I would push the start button and it would just turn over, never would fire. Known issue, apparently bent timing/cam tabs. Between this and the dated interior I traded for the Ram. Duramax does seem like the stronger of the two, and with the 10spd trans got better mileage, but between the reliability, ride quality, and better interior (even over the GM 2022 update), I like my Ram 100% over the GMC.


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Anybody running a baby Powerstroke in 1/2 ton?



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IDK but I'm pretty much in the same boat and I'm waiting on my 1/2 ton 3.0 GMC to come in from order. I'm switching from the 6.6 diesel 3/4 ton. Not sure why you mention smaller bed - they are hard to get (one reason I ordered), but I'll have a 6.5' bed just like the 2500.

Good luck on your decision. I'm hoping it's the right one, but can't tell you right now.

And if anyone is looking for a 2017 2500HD Denali, customized nicely, with about 170K on it, then get in touch with me. smile

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We bought a Ram eco diesel a year ago in Phoenix. On the way home at 75 on the hwy we were getting 31 mpg and it was brand new. We average 25 mpg around town. We love the truck.

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Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Anybody running a baby Powerstroke in 1/2 ton?


I was told they aren't making them anymore from the salesman we bought my wifes last vehicle from.


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Re: Another 1/2 ton diesel thread [Re: Chopped54] #8594305 05/09/22 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chopped54
I have owned both the 3.0 Duramax and currently own the Ram Eco. On a dozen occasions my Denali would not start. I would push the start button and it would just turn over, never would fire. Known issue, apparently bent timing/cam tabs. Between this and the dated interior I traded for the Ram. Duramax does seem like the stronger of the two, and with the 10spd trans got better mileage, but between the reliability, ride quality, and better interior (even over the GM 2022 update), I like my Ram 100% over the GMC.


The two I’m looking at is the AT 4 GMC and the Ram Limited Longhorn.

I like the exterior look of the GM better but the Ram interior is awesome. I don’t care for the shift knob but but that’s really nit picky.

I owned a 15’, 16’ and 19’ Chevy 1500/Tahoe/Suburban and I honestly liked the trucks but had issues with every single one. Can’t say I’ve had many issues with my last 3 fords…even my half ton was tough as nails. I traded it with 176k on the ODO and it still drove like it was new

I’ve heard good things about the rams from everyone who has owned one


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I got the 6.2L gas, not the Duramax, but my prediction is more and more people will be switching from 3/4 tons to 1/2 ton diesels. I would not be surprised to see the 1/2 ton have as good of resale once they become more mainstream over the next few years. It seems many folks who drive a 3/4 ton don't really need them, and with diesel at close to $5 a gallon and not likely to drop any time soon it will make those trucks getting 14 mpg harder to drive compared to the 1/2 tons that get double that. JMO.

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The Ram 1500 can tow 10,000 lbs. We got the limited and it has auto ride height on it. Which means it holds level with a load and lowers on the hwy to help mileage.

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I’ve got one and love it. I agree that the duramax pulls harder and like the gm 10 speed over rams 8.

The power loss from the big diesel is going to be monumental difference. They do get good mileage, but if your going to up size the tires and drive 70+mph your not going to be anywhere near 30 mpg. With diesel at $5.30 a gal locally it’s 30-40% higher than gas and getting real turf to justify. I would go with a gas personally.


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Originally Posted by DocHorton
I got the 6.2L gas, not the Duramax, but my prediction is more and more people will be switching from 3/4 tons to 1/2 ton diesels. I would not be surprised to see the 1/2 ton have as good of resale once they become more mainstream over the next few years. It seems many folks who drive a 3/4 ton don't really need them, and with diesel at close to $5 a gallon and not likely to drop any time soon it will make those trucks getting 14 mpg harder to drive compared to the 1/2 tons that get double that. JMO.



I would think you would be right but for whatever reason they have not caught on here in the states like overseas.

For what I’m doing, it makes the most sense, get better mileage both loaded and unloaded, better ride, more maneuverable. Only reason I’m in a 3/4 ton now is resale because I swap trucks so often.


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Originally Posted by redchevy
I’ve got one and love it. I agree that the duramax pulls harder and like the gm 10 speed over rams 8.

The power loss from the big diesel is going to be monumental difference. They do get good mileage, but if your going to up size the tires and drive 70+mph your not going to be anywhere near 30 mpg. With diesel at $5.30 a gal locally it’s 30-40% higher than gas and getting real turf to justify. I would go with a gas personally.



Thought crossed my mind as well….but I’ll get at best 17-18 mpg with a gas truck and not be able to pull the loads near as comfortably. If I go back to gas I’ll get a Ford.

But you are right about me adding bigger tires and driving 75 everywhere I go. Stock tires and those sizes would only be a headache for me


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Originally Posted by DocHorton
I got the 6.2L gas, not the Duramax, but my prediction is more and more people will be switching from 3/4 tons to 1/2 ton diesels. I would not be surprised to see the 1/2 ton have as good of resale once they become more mainstream over the next few years. It seems many folks who drive a 3/4 ton don't really need them, and with diesel at close to $5 a gallon and not likely to drop any time soon it will make those trucks getting 14 mpg harder to drive compared to the 1/2 tons that get double that. JMO.

lmao

I'd bet that well over 50% of the folks driving the 3/4 ton diesels DON'T need them.
There are a bunch of wannbe cowboy rednecks around LaVernia TX that for sure don't need them. Hell, they all seem to drive them and all live in a subdivision and don't even own a lowboy trailer but man they got some big old trucks. lmao


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Originally Posted by ILUVBIGBUCKS
Originally Posted by DocHorton
I got the 6.2L gas, not the Duramax, but my prediction is more and more people will be switching from 3/4 tons to 1/2 ton diesels. I would not be surprised to see the 1/2 ton have as good of resale once they become more mainstream over the next few years. It seems many folks who drive a 3/4 ton don't really need them, and with diesel at close to $5 a gallon and not likely to drop any time soon it will make those trucks getting 14 mpg harder to drive compared to the 1/2 tons that get double that. JMO.

lmao

I'd bet that well over 50% of the folks driving the 3/4 ton diesels DON'T need them.
There are a bunch of wannbe cowboy rednecks around LaVernia TX that for sure don't need them. Hell, they all seem to drive them and all live in a subdivision and don't even own a lowboy trailer but man they got some big old trucks. lmao


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Originally Posted by ILUVBIGBUCKS
Originally Posted by DocHorton
I got the 6.2L gas, not the Duramax, but my prediction is more and more people will be switching from 3/4 tons to 1/2 ton diesels. I would not be surprised to see the 1/2 ton have as good of resale once they become more mainstream over the next few years. It seems many folks who drive a 3/4 ton don't really need them, and with diesel at close to $5 a gallon and not likely to drop any time soon it will make those trucks getting 14 mpg harder to drive compared to the 1/2 tons that get double that. JMO.

lmao

I'd bet that well over 50% of the folks driving the 3/4 ton diesels DON'T need them.
There are a bunch of wannbe cowboy rednecks around LaVernia TX that for sure don't need them. Hell, they all seem to drive them and all live in a subdivision and don't even own a lowboy trailer but man they got some big old trucks. lmao


Was agreeing with me that funny? grin

I was waiting for someone to chime in that everyone needs a 3/4 ton to haul a SxS. Lol

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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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I got the 6.2L gas, not the Duramax, but my prediction is more and more people will be switching from 3/4 tons to 1/2 ton diesels. I would not be surprised to see the 1/2 ton have as good of resale once they become more mainstream over the next few years. It seems many folks who drive a 3/4 ton don't really need them, and with diesel at close to $5 a gallon and not likely to drop any time soon it will make those trucks getting 14 mpg harder to drive compared to the 1/2 tons that get double that. JMO.



I would think you would be right but for whatever reason they have not caught on here in the states like overseas.

For what I’m doing, it makes the most sense, get better mileage both loaded and unloaded, better ride, more maneuverable. Only reason I’m in a 3/4 ton now is resale because I swap trucks so often.



I think a few reasons for that....overseas, especially in many countries in Europe, fuel is a lot more expensive than what it is here. Also, I don't think many of them have the emissions regulations we do.

I could be wrong, but I think the 3/4 diesel market will slowly get smaller and smaller.

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I've always found it interesting folks who deem what others should be driving. FWIW...I don't give AF what you think I should drive nor do I care what you drive.

I just read an article that says we are deep into our diesel reserve and by June we could see some places running out of it. Interesting, this was less than 24 hours after BigPig mentioned in passing that 3 or 4 different gas stations in Forney were out of diesel last evening.

I cannot imagine the additional 100hp the 3.5 ecoboost has wouldn't be noticed while towing and running around town, over the 3.0 Chebby. The fuel mileage numbers are impressive but if diesel stays 1.25 higher then that's all for nothing. I know for a fact it'll stomp a hole in a Dodge eco's donkey.


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I've always found it interesting folks who deem what others should be driving. FWIW...I don't give AF what you think I should drive nor do I care what you drive.

I just read an article that says we are deep into our diesel reserve and by June we could see some places running out of it. Interesting, this was less than 24 hours after BigPig mentioned in passing that 3 or 4 different gas stations in Forney were out of diesel last evening.

I cannot imagine the additional 100hp the 3.5 ecoboost has wouldn't be noticed while towing and running around town, over the 3.0 Chebby. The fuel mileage numbers are impressive but if diesel stays 1.25 higher then that's all for nothing. I know for a fact it'll stomp a hole in a Dodge eco's donkey.


Why so angry? lmao

I already stated the additional fuel economy in the diesel is basically a wash with the price of fuel.

I don't think anyone here said anything bad about the 3.5 eco boost anywhere.

I'd love to hook 4 or 5k lbs behind it and a 3.0 duramax and see which out performs the other both in pulling and in MPG.
I haven't read of anyone getting 19+ in the eco boost with a 16' lowboy running 80 down the highway but I guess maybe it is possible.


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