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Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
#8586901
04/28/22 12:33 AM
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tlk
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Our Washington leaders are heading towards something that is actually GOOD for once. They are planning to redo retirement savings, etc. for the better. They are increasing the amount you can put into retirement accounts tax deferred. Even better than that .....................
Currently you are required to start taking IRA/401K distributions at seventy years and a half. Every distribution is taxed as ordinary income whether you need the money or not.
Under the current legislation that they look like they will pass the required distributions are delayed to age 75 - HUGE win for retirees - means you get to keep accumulating your money an extra four years without it being taxed
You can't fix stupid
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8586908
04/28/22 12:51 AM
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That would be great, if I wasn’t 74 1/2. Well, you young whippersnappers enjoy it.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8586912
04/28/22 12:56 AM
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Sneaky
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I never understood why you could only contribute so much.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8586941
04/28/22 01:55 AM
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redchevy
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Man I guess some of y’all plan on living for ever! No way I will be still trying to save and defer drawing on it at that age.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8586951
04/28/22 02:09 AM
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freerange
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Tlk, I’m pretty sure it not too long ago changed from 70.5 to about 72.5 or so. If I’ve been given bad info from my guy then I’m not pleased with him. The 75 is news to me and I like it. Thanks for the heads up.
Last edited by freerange; 04/28/22 02:11 AM.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8586956
04/28/22 02:13 AM
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DLALLDER
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Tlk, I’m pretty sure it not too long ago changed from 70.5 to about 72.5 or so. If I’ve been given bad info from my guy then I’m not pleased with him. The 75 is news to me and I like it. Thanks for the heads up. Freerange, you are correct. Think it was done last year.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587011
04/28/22 04:08 AM
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Man I guess some of y’all plan on living for ever! No way I will be still trying to save and defer drawing on it at that age. I plan to be out at 60ish and onward to other adventures. Fully agree!
To be determined
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587012
04/28/22 04:16 AM
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TurkeyHunter
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You can withdrawal from 401k penalty free starting age 59 1/2.
By 75 to 80 I plan to be somewhere between destitute or dead.
To be determined
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587022
04/28/22 05:28 AM
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DukeCigars
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If the max contribution goes up, I’ll be happy. I’ve got a few decades til retirement…and I can’t understand why when I pay over the max contribution, I have to pay a fine on the difference. At least it’s helped me diversify
Car guy. Serial entrepreneur. Terrible golfer.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587024
04/28/22 07:31 AM
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587043
04/28/22 11:45 AM
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I needed mine more when I first started taking it out.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587052
04/28/22 11:52 AM
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Hudbone
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Funny, money saved for retirement isn't desired to be accessed when retired.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587058
04/28/22 11:56 AM
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DQ Kid
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Tlk, I’m pretty sure it not too long ago changed from 70.5 to about 72.5 or so. If I’ve been given bad info from my guy then I’m not pleased with him. The 75 is news to me and I like it. Thanks for the heads up. Freerange, you are correct. Think it was done last year. In the year you turn 72 unless you turned 70.5 by Jan. 1, 2020.
Last edited by DQ Kid; 04/28/22 11:56 AM.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
[Re: freerange]
#8587073
04/28/22 12:22 PM
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tlk
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Tlk, I’m pretty sure it not too long ago changed from 70.5 to about 72.5 or so. If I’ve been given bad info from my guy then I’m not pleased with him. The 75 is news to me and I like it. Thanks for the heads up. You are correct - age 72 currently - my bad
You can't fix stupid
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587074
04/28/22 12:23 PM
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hook_n_line
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You can withdrawal from 401k penalty free starting age 59 1/2.
By 75 to 80 I plan to be somewhere between destitute or dead. I'm with you. I always told my people "I'm not tied to this earth like a lot of folks who want to stay living on it are. My retirement plan is beyond this world and I don't plan on taking anything with me." I also so told my kids not to expect anything when I die, I would have squandered it all and the best thing I could have ever given them was teaching them how to learn, work and enjoy life when you can. I'm blessed to have had parents that did the same. I feel for the next generations who are waiting with their hands out.
Sometimes it's hard being me! But somebody has to do it.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587113
04/28/22 01:50 PM
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...and the best thing I could have ever given them was teaching them how to learn, work and enjoy life when you can. I'm blessed to have had parents that did the same. I feel for the next generations who are waiting with their hands out. My neighborhood seems to have an inordinate amount of never-leave-the-nesters. 20 something guys living with mummy and daddy. They seem to live to go to their one class a day at the local college around 9ish in their LOUD Challengers or tricked out Mustangs and be home by the time mummy has lunch ready. New car every year or so. They're (the parents) doing it wrong.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587132
04/28/22 02:11 PM
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Something is in it for them, they are not doing it for us.
By delaying the RMDs, and not changing the percentage formula, the tax rate on the RMD could be higher. Also, by delaying the RMDs, it could increase the remaining IRA balance to be paid to working beneficiaries. By adding the inheired IRA distibutions to thier earned income, the beneficiaries may experince bracket creep.
Bureaucrats see taxes as thier income stream. With an aging population, this could be a good investment in a future bureaucratics income stream.
Just my 2 cents worth.
If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587136
04/28/22 02:14 PM
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pertnear
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Funny, money saved for retirement isn't desired to be accessed when retired. +1...My thoughts exactly. My money guy keeps telling me that when I get into forced distribution no problem. He can take the money & roll it over into a Roth & keep it growing. I told him once in a Roth the funds aren't available for 3 years, right? His answer is, well yea, but.... (followed by deer-in-head-lights look).
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” - George Orwell
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587137
04/28/22 02:18 PM
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Hudbone
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For those thinking this is such a great way to deal with handling their money to be distributed via wills to loving heirs, Remember, they likely aren't as old as you and their tax brackets are also likely higher. What they receive will be subject to the tax penalties and such. Too many don't consider this. We've been "cleansing" Mom's ever since Daddy died over five years ago.
Last edited by Hudbone; 04/28/22 02:19 PM.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587148
04/28/22 02:31 PM
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tlk
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Something is in it for them, they are not doing it for us.
By delaying the RMDs, and not changing the percentage formula, the tax rate on the RMD could be higher. Also, by delaying the RMDs, it could increase the remaining IRA balance to be paid to working beneficiaries. By adding the inheired IRA distibutions to thier earned income, the beneficiaries may experince bracket creep.
Bureaucrats see taxes as thier income stream. With an aging population, this could be a good investment in a future bureaucratics income stream.
Just my 2 cents worth. Nobody will ever know what the future income tax rates will be - depends on what party is in control. etc. Remember that once a dollar goes to the IRS you will never see it again nor will you earn any interest on it again. For me I will take my chances with a potentially higher tax bracket versus giving it to the IRS earlier Also if married and the person with the IRA/401K dies it goes to the spouse with no tax impact - when it eventually goes to children then it is going to be taxed on way or another -
Last edited by tlk; 04/28/22 02:31 PM.
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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04/28/22 02:56 PM
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freerange
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Im not real smart on this stuff and on RMD I dont have to think a lot about it for a few more years. For those of you saying or implying that the change to 75 could be bad-you dont HAVE to wait till 75 but you CAN wait. Seems like a no lose situation that can be tailored to the individual. Those that need the money can get it but if you dont then let it sit. Personally I plan to live a long time and if I do I may not have much money left.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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04/28/22 03:20 PM
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Those young, blonde hospice nurses don't come cheap. Especially if you require them to wear a French maid outfit.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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04/28/22 03:21 PM
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Hudbone
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Those young, blonde hospice nurses don't come cheap. Especially if you require them to wear a French maid outfit tending to you in a tiki hut. FIFY
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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04/28/22 03:36 PM
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Those young, blonde hospice nurses don't come cheap. Especially if you require them to wear a French maid outfit tending to you in a tiki hut. FIFY X2 I’ll be retired well before tax penalties go away
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Re: Minimum required distributions from your IRA/401K
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#8587202
04/28/22 03:38 PM
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We do the RMDs every year. Uncle Sam takes his cut and the rest gets reinvested or used as needed. If it wasn’t for the RMDs, they wouldn’t get much in the way of tax dollars, so this is just to keep getting a steady annual cut of your money and everybody else’s.
Not my monkeys, not my circus...
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