Does the 130 HHC have the same BC as the standard 130HC (.248)?
Reverse engineering the data on page 52 seems to suggest that, but measuring the bullets shows they are ~0.030" longer which should result in slightly better BC.
Am I crazy?

Bill,

The ammo schizophrenia is getting the best of me . I bought 200 rounds of Wilson Combat nickel 110 CC to use for home defense. Then I saw great reports on the Speer 135gr HP's and bought 120 rounds to test. Shortly after that you announced the 125gr Controlled Chaos.

Please forgive my departure from Hunting performance, but regardless of what I have purchased, what would you consider the best round for home defense out of an 8-inch barrel, mainly explosive expansion with limited penetration, but still able penetrate level IIIA soft body armor. Testing we did while I was on the Tempe SWAT team from 1993 to 2001 seemed to indicate higher velocity, lighter, sharp point bullets were the best performing against soft body armor. But bullets have come along way in 20 years ago, especially with awesome developments like 300 HAM'R. Wish I'd had this back then instead of an MP5.

Thanks,

Bryan

For urban home defense these are good choices:

110gr Hornady V-MAX
130gr Speer HP
135gr Sierra HP (my choice)

The Controlled Chaos are great for quick incapacitation, but the base will fully penetrate a human

Bill,

The ammo schizophrenia is getting the best of me . I bought 200 rounds of Wilson Combat nickel 110 CC to use for home defense. Then I saw great reports on the Speer 135gr HP's and bought 120 rounds to test. Shortly after that you announced the 125gr Controlled Chaos.

Please forgive my departure from Hunting performance, but regardless of what I have purchased, what would you consider the best round for home defense out of an 8-inch barrel, mainly explosive expansion with limited penetration, but still able penetrate level IIIA soft body armor. Testing we did while I was on the Tempe SWAT team from 1993 to 2001 seemed to indicate higher velocity, lighter, sharp point bullets were the best performing against soft body armor. But bullets have come along way in 20 years ago, especially with awesome developments like 300 HAM'R. Wish I'd had this back then instead of an MP5.

Thanks,

Bryan

I'd like to add my vote to the Sierra 135gr HP. They are the most destructive bullet I've shot so far in my Ham'r. Whatever you hit literally explodes so I don't think you would have to worry about over penetration.

Bill,

The ammo schizophrenia is getting the best of me . I bought 200 rounds of Wilson Combat nickel 110 CC to use for home defense. Then I saw great reports on the Speer 135gr HP's and bought 120 rounds to test. Shortly after that you announced the 125gr Controlled Chaos.

Please forgive my departure from Hunting performance, but regardless of what I have purchased, what would you consider the best round for home defense out of an 8-inch barrel, mainly explosive expansion with limited penetration, but still able penetrate level IIIA soft body armor. Testing we did while I was on the Tempe SWAT team from 1993 to 2001 seemed to indicate higher velocity, lighter, sharp point bullets were the best performing against soft body armor. But bullets have come along way in 20 years ago, especially with awesome developments like 300 HAM'R. Wish I'd had this back then instead of an MP5.

Thanks,

Bryan

Updated 300 HAM'R load data was posted on the WC web site today.

I've been running my 8in HAMR against my 8in blackout for a couple months now. Interestingly, I just tested some 110gr VMAX and I don't get nearly the performance bump (in fps) that I do with the heavier bullets. My sample size isn't that large yet and its the only 110gr range bullet I've tried so far. But the performance gain with the 120-130gr bullets is significantly higher. I'm running 130ish gr up to 2150 which to me is pretty awesome out of 8 inches. Factory 110 VMAX don't run that fast in my set up.

Updated 300 HAM'R load data was posted on the WC web site today.

Nice shooting. Looking for the 125 CC to show up on your web site. I believe you mentioned a couple of weeks age the truck with them was between SD and Arkansas. I think they might have had a flat. lol

I ordered some of those 125CC pills today. Hope my rifle likes them.

Lehigh Defense 125gr CC bullets are up on the WC web site now and we have plenty in stock. We also received notice today that we have a large shipment of Speer 130gr HHC bullets heading our way. So maybe the bullet drought is over???

Powder however is a MAJOR problem and getting worse!!!