Find a new dealer. Still several out there not playing that game.

It blows my mind how so many people absolutely have to have a new vehicle now. The types that have to buy a new vehicle before the tires wear out on the old one are suckers. All they see is 0% apr for the rest of their lives. I'm 38 and have kept all but 3 of the vehicles I've bought since I was 16. Still daily a 2002 Jeep tj with 117K miles, a 2004 Jeep TJ Rubicon with 39K miles, a 1996 Chevrolet Silverado regular cab short bed with 350 V-8 and 204K miles, and a 2006 Chevy 1500 Z-71 with 238K miles. I've never paid more than $23,500 (the '06 Z-71 when it had 30K miles on it) for a vehicle. Watching what people are paying for new half ton pickups makes me both laugh and puke at the same time. No thanks! Debt free is the way to be. I've been investing my old car payments into the stock market for the last 12 years.

It blows my mind how so many people absolutely have to have a new vehicle now. The types that have to buy a new vehicle before the tires wear out on the old one are suckers. All they see is 0% apr for the rest of their lives. I'm 38 and have kept all but 3 of the vehicles I've bought since I was 16. Still daily a 2002 Jeep tj with 117K miles, a 2004 Jeep TJ Rubicon with 39K miles, a 1996 Chevrolet Silverado regular cab short bed with 350 V-8 and 204K miles, and a 2006 Chevy 1500 Z-71 with 238K miles. I've never paid more than $23,500 (the '06 Z-71 when it had 30K miles on it) for a vehicle. Watching what people are paying for new half ton pickups makes me both laugh and puke at the same time. No thanks! Debt free is the way to be. I've been investing my old car payments into the stock market for the last 12 years.

It blows my mind how so many people absolutely have to have a new vehicle now. The types that have to buy a new vehicle before the tires wear out on the old one are suckers. All they see is 0% apr for the rest of their lives. I'm 38 and have kept all but 3 of the vehicles I've bought since I was 16. Still daily a 2002 Jeep tj with 117K miles, a 2004 Jeep TJ Rubicon with 39K miles, a 1996 Chevrolet Silverado regular cab short bed with 350 V-8 and 204K miles, and a 2006 Chevy 1500 Z-71 with 238K miles. I've never paid more than $23,500 (the '06 Z-71 when it had 30K miles on it) for a vehicle. Watching what people are paying for new half ton pickups makes me both laugh and puke at the same time. No thanks! Debt free is the way to be. I've been investing my old car payments into the stock market for the last 12 years.

Good for you....life is sweeter when you don't have vehicle and house payments. I was "just looking" at a new Yukon a few years ago and the salesman walked up and said "that would sure look good in your drive way". I said "Yes, but that 60K in my bank account looks better". He did not hang around to chat.

Thank You one upper but nobody cares

Thank You one upper but nobody cares

One of my job perks is that I can use my employer's fleet buying power to get a new vehicle. Typically my cost will be 25% - 30% below sticker. Only catch is that I have to order the vehicle, I can't buy anything off of the lot. I'm ready to order now so we'll see how that deal plays out in this crazy market. My bet is that it will take a ridiculously long time for the order to get built and shipped. Fortunately I'm not in a rush.

Thank You one upper but nobody cares

That's what the ammo scalpers use an excuse for their behavior. I hope every one of them needs to buy a car in the next year.

Seems like you should buy a new car every day and then sell it. Make a killing.

I'm sure everybody that's upset about the $10-15k markup was equally upset when they got $13k off a new F150 a few years ago, right?

Not trying to one up anyone, just showing what can be done and if I convince one person that buying a new vehicle right now is a dumb financial move so be it. I don't care how anyone spends their money but if you're on a forum griping about a markup on a depreciating asset then what does that tell you? Probably not a good time to buy...
Not having a constant vehicle payment is amazing. I can't wait until I pay off the mortgage. People say that feeling is great too.
"Too big to fail" is what got us where we're at. We the people should take back the country and let the big banks and automobile manufacturers fail. There is no reason they cost what they do. Bailouts for everyone and this is what you get.

And I thought my neighbor paying 50k over was bad.

Car dealership used to make about 25% on base and 33% upgrades.

You do the math

So get this, some friends decided the trophy wife was gonna get a used, low mileage Mercedes GLE from TXTrophy's "favorite" dealership in Boerne. They were looking at 2020 and a 2021 with both being options in the low seventies. During the decision making process, they inquired as to the cost of a new one. The salesman replied they didn't have any new ones as the only one left had been sold the previous day. Luckily, another salesman overheard him and let them know that deal had fallen though. They ended up buying that brand new one for $68K. All were outfitted similarly.

Huh?