Yep, if a guy is in dire need of a 4lb rifle scope that's the ticket.

Yep, if a guy is in dire need of a 4lb rifle scope that's the ticket.

re: patriot - NF ATACR - 7-35x56mm runs in at about 6oz less, at 39.3 ozs. I don't know if you can get one for $3k out the door, but I would be willing to bet a call to Doug at Cameraland might get you much closer than other places will.


- I love the ATACR and the NF NX8 4-32-50 (28.6 oz) is another option I'd highly consider in that class, and those run much less.

re: patriot - NF ATACR - 7-35x56mm runs in at about 6oz less, at 39.3 ozs. I don't know if you can get one for $3k out the door, but I would be willing to bet a call to Doug at Cameraland might get you much closer than other places will.


- I love the ATACR and the NF NX8 4-32-50 (28.6 oz) is another option I'd highly consider in that class, and those run much less.

I can honestly say that I have never considered weight as even a small factor in buying a scope. I'm sure some folks do, but that's obviously not who these are targeted at.

The Razor Gen 2 were some of the best optics in the price range with good reticles and very user-friendly features. I haven't seen reviews on the Gen 3, but if they're the same jump as Gen 2 was from Gen 1, that will be a phenomenal value at $3k.

What is the lightest weight competitor that has 35x+ magnification, tons of travel, good FOV, and excellent optics? And how much does that competitor cost? Honest questions - I don't pay much attention to the lightweight market. Vortex's lightweight lineup is the AMG, which is obscenely good optics and design for the weight and money. The question with vortex always seems to be reliability.

Yep, if a guy is in dire need of a 4lb trotline weight that's the ticket.

Leupold VX-6 7-42x56 - 26.3oz - $2,099 MSRP
Leupold VX-5HD 7-35x56 - 25.7oz - $1,999 MSRP
Leupold Mark5-HD 7-35x56 - 33oz - $2,399 MSRP

just to name a few...

Checked out the first one. It has no exposed turrets and 15 mil of adjustment range. It's like comparing a moped to a z06. Yeah, the moped weighs less but they're not built for the same thing.

Mark 5 HD looks comparable, but it's not even a pound less so again, why the big deal about weight on a scope that's primarily built for precision shooting and not hunting?

I agree, if for precision shooting, weight has never factored into my decision as i'm not toting the rifle around, it's typically stationary.
The VX line of Leupold has always been hunting-oriented, hence the less travel. The Mark series is their "tactical/precision" line.

For the price, I still like my Burris RT-25, 5-25x56. I got it new, for $459.99 (over $600 now) and for the price, it'd be tough to beat. I like it so much, I'm considering the RT-15, 3-15x50 as well. Same features just less magnification. I love the reticle and the glass is superb.

I can honestly say that I have never considered weight as even a small factor in buying a scope. I'm sure some folks do, but that's obviously not who these are targeted at.

The Razor Gen 2 were some of the best optics in the price range with good reticles and very user-friendly features. I haven't seen reviews on the Gen 3, but if they're the same jump as Gen 2 was from Gen 1, that will be a phenomenal value at $3k.

What is the lightest weight competitor that has 35x+ magnification, tons of travel, good FOV, and excellent optics? And how much does that competitor cost? Honest questions - I don't pay much attention to the lightweight market. Vortex's lightweight lineup is the AMG, which is obscenely good optics and design for the weight and money. The question with vortex always seems to be reliability.

See, and I look at

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The water in my pack is far heavier than the rifle scope.

He’s a fireman. With all the gear he is used carrying, I’m sure a heavier rifle doesn’t bother him.

He also knows the mountain dont play. But it's ok, he just volunteer on my next adventure to sherpa

Right Scott.

I long for a scope that is light AND DOES WHAT I NEED IT TO DO!

But it doesn't exist yet. I won't compromise my rifle scopes reliability for some ounces.

And before you bring up the Vortex, save it. No way I'm using one, no way! Seen too many of them break down.

And yes, I've been on the mountain. I couldn't breaf! Especially when I had to pack out the bull elk I killed.

Anything in excess of a 40 mm objective is just more surface area to screw up your hunting. You guys must prance around much more gingerly than the manner in which I navigate through terrain. I am not a bench rest guy.