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284 Win and 162, 175 ELD-X #8493310 01/02/22 05:28 PM
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For the folks with experience, what barrel length, twist rate, velocity, etc. worked well for you? Any handloading info for those bullet weights would be helpful as well. I'm rebarreling a long action, so seating depth won't be an issue. Thanks for the help, fellas.


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I have lots of experience with both bullets but not when loaded in that cartridge. When dealing with a .284 bore you get the best performance with a 1 in 9 twist, the heaviest bullet you can find, and load them to the max. Normally I shoot a 7mm Mag or 7mm STW if I am using a .284 bore.

Depending on what Critters you're shooting you should not hesitate to use the eld-m bullets. For game weighing under 250 lb the eld-m and A-max are ideal bullets.

If you want really cheap, really good, and very easy to load give the Hornady 162 grain SST a shot. Simply seat the bullet over a max charge to the cannelure depth and crimp it. It will shoot very well and chances are load development really won't get it shooting that much better.

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Go 1:8.7 twist

I would commit to 2500 count, 175 gr ELD-X and make em run.

At 24" you might hit 2900 fps. H-4831 SC burn rate is probably where I'd start if I could find it.


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Originally Posted by blkt2
I have lots of experience with both bullets but not when loaded in that cartridge. When dealing with a .284 bore you get the best performance with a 1 in 9 twist, the heaviest bullet you can find, and load them to the max. Normally I shoot a 7mm Mag or 7mm STW if I am using a .284 bore.

Depending on what Critters you're shooting you should not hesitate to use the eld-m bullets. For game weighing under 250 lb the eld-m and A-max are ideal bullets.

If you want really cheap, really good, and very easy to load give the Hornady 162 grain SST a shot. Simply seat the bullet over a max charge to the cannelure depth and crimp it. It will shoot very well and chances are load development really won't get it shooting that much better.


Thanks for the info. I've read a few threads about it on other sites, and it seems that folks are having trouble getting the 175s to stabilize from a 1:9 barrel at 284 Win speeds. I'm a fan of Amax and SST, but I have a good supply of 7mm ELD-X, so I need to start there.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Jerm,

Go 1:8.7 twist

I would commit to 2500 count, 175 gr ELD-X and make em run.

At 24" you might hit 2900 fps. H-4831 SC burn rate is probably where I'd start if I could find it.



You're right on the money about 4831 SC. I loaded it with heavy bullets in my old 284 Win and it worked great. I have a bunch of RL16 now. It might be too fast to do what I'm trying to do. Dstroud has done it but I don't know which bullets he's tried or what kind of velocity he got.


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Re: 284 Win and 162, 175 ELD-X [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #8493444 01/02/22 09:18 PM
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Been shooting 175 eldx through a 7mm08 for a few years 1:8.5 twist has worked well only shot out to 400 yards but no stability issues at all. MV of 2605


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Here is load I have used for a while now.
Just noticed number show metric..l they are not. Fixed it.

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Just curious...how does the standard 284 win compare to 280ai?

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Originally Posted by Korean Redneck
Just curious...how does the standard 284 win compare to 280ai?


I think they are within a grain or two of case capacity and about 8% lower than a 7saum--- never had a 284win but have had a 280ai and currently a SAUM.

I think the real question is if the case geometry favors one or the other.


As far as for the OP- my 280ai was a factory 1-9 but I never ran anything over a 162. With my SAUM I'm currently running a cream puff 162 ELDM @ 2850 which is a low node for certain. I've considered going to a 175ELDX or even keeping the 162-M as my deer/light skinned load and running a 175gr Partition for Elk, etc

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Originally Posted by DStroud
Here is load I have used for a while now.
Just noticed number show metric..l they are not. Fixed it.

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Thanks, D. That's good speed with a 180. I remember you saying it shoots good too.


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Originally Posted by Korean Redneck
Just curious...how does the standard 284 win compare to 280ai?


I think they are within a grain or two of case capacity and about 8% lower than a 7saum--- never had a 284win but have had a 280ai and currently a SAUM.

I think the real question is if the case geometry favors one or the other.


As far as for the OP- my 280ai was a factory 1-9 but I never ran anything over a 162. With my SAUM I'm currently running a cream puff 162 ELDM @ 2850 which is a low node for certain. I've considered going to a 175ELDX or even keeping the 162-M as my deer/light skinned load and running a 175gr Partition for Elk, etc



Thanks for the info. I'd be happy with a 162 at that velocity.


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