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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 01:49 PM
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I personally don’t think they were trying to protect anyone’s property , I think these hillbilly’s are guilty as charged. Just my opinion. Might be wrong. Might. IMO, it boils down to misjudgement that someone would stop and give up with a gun pointed at them. The guy would still be alive if he had done that and just waited for the police to show up. He would probably never have been charged with a crime and the three guys would have never seen a prison cell. The victim was most likely convinced he was about to be shot and decided to fight back. No winners and only losers all the way around on this one. If nothing else, these cases hopefully get gun owners to think things through before grabbing a weapon, and in this case, go chasing after someone.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 02:06 PM
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I personally don’t think they were trying to protect anyone’s property , I think these hillbilly’s are guilty as charged. Just my opinion. Might be wrong. Might. Some of the facts in this case I remember and one of the most telling is they have him on camera inside the property at night on 5 different occasions. Theft and burglaries in that area were so bad they set up a citizens watch. I also remember him running towards the truck and instead of just kicking it in gear and going past, he chose to try and fight with the youngest one and wrestle for the shotgun. This was all on video. Will the jury ignore it, who knows but it was certainly undeniable. What I take from the video is he was running towards the truck the armed fellow was on the left side of the truck so the runner cut right only to have the armed guy cut him off in front of the truck. Fight or flight at this point but this situation was created by the shooter. Then "dog pack mentality kicked in and the other guy fired. This could have all been avoided. As for the tough guys here. I pray you never find yourself in this situation. It's heavy on the soul. Just watched the video again and I'm seeing the son on the left side and the suspect goes around the right and then cuts back to the left making contact with the son.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 02:08 PM
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I find it strange that the rittenhouse case got all the coverage and this one isn't getting much at all.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 02:09 PM
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So a co-worker and I were just talking this today. So you are dead asleep, why they are does not play a role in this "what if", but the police serve a no knock warrant. You believe it is a home invasion and like many have said in this thread you shoot to "defend" yourself and end up killing LEO. Should you be able to use self defense in this case? Someone anyone kicks in my door in the dead of night billets are flying. I’m not A criminal and this scenario shouldn’t effect me. Amen I’m not a felon nor do I have a warrant someone kicks in my door in the middle of the night I’m shooting more than one. It’ll be sorted out by the courts. I’m sorry they lost their lives but they shouldn’t be kicking the wrong door. I remember the case of a neighbor seeing smoke and flames from the attic of a home on fire at night and called the FD. They showed up and knocked on the door, as well as every window they could get to, trying to wake up anyone inside. Nobody answered after a long time so they breached the door to keep anyone from getting killed from the fire and to put it out. The guy who finally woke up barked off a bunch of rounds at them as they made entry. That's why a responsible gun owner doesn't shoot at a target they can't identify. I've arrested a lot of burglars and never had one of them wearing bunker gear. Yep crazy case definitely 1 in a million. By the way what is bunker gear?
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 02:11 PM
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Bunker gear is what firefighters wear to protect them from heat and flames.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 02:11 PM
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Bunker gear is what firefighters wear to protect them from heat and flames. Ahhh gotcha. Thanks.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 02:17 PM
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A little more info on what happen. Defense attorney and timeline video.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 04:31 PM
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I find it strange that the rittenhouse case got all the coverage and this one isn't getting much at all. The media has already done its job. Just look at what the good guys are being called on here, hillbillies, vigilantes, rednecks. Instead of being called former police officer and military. Meanwhile the criminal is being portrayed as a choirboy instead of the felon and thief he was.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 05:07 PM
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I find it strange that the rittenhouse case got all the coverage and this one isn't getting much at all. The media has already done its job. Just look at what the good guys are being called on here, hillbillies, vigilantes, rednecks. Instead of being called former police officer and military. Meanwhile the criminal is being portrayed as a choirboy instead of the felon and thief he was.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 05:17 PM
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I find it strange that the rittenhouse case got all the coverage and this one isn't getting much at all. The media has already done its job. Just look at what the good guys are being called on here, hillbillies, vigilantes, rednecks. Instead of being called former police officer and military. Meanwhile the criminal is being portrayed as a choirboy instead of the felon and thief he was. It doesn't matter what the kid was. He was already running away. Former police or military should know better, it's in the training. This turned into a fiasco for them and it's their own fault. Self defense is not a defense in the incident.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 05:32 PM
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I find it strange that the rittenhouse case got all the coverage and this one isn't getting much at all. The media has already done its job. Just look at what the good guys are being called on here, hillbillies, vigilantes, rednecks. Instead of being called former police officer and military. Meanwhile the criminal is being portrayed as a choirboy instead of the felon and thief he was.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 05:54 PM
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I do not know if those guys were racist, hillbillies etc.
I do know they are not the sharpest pencils in the drawer. You simply do not chase people down and put a gun on them.
Now that guy that died. Also an idiot. I’m not running at a man with a scatter gun. Im cooperating until the law shows up or I’m turning and running the opposite direction. His actions at that very moment got him killed.
I do not know how this deal shakes out. But those men all their families friends etc wish they had more sense. Same goes for the man that got shot.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 05:58 PM
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I do not know if those guys were racist, hillbillies etc.
I do know they are not the sharpest pencils in the drawer. You simply do not chase people down and put a gun on them.
Now that guy that died. Also an idiot. I’m not running at a man with a scatter gun. Im cooperating until the law shows up or I’m turning and running the opposite direction. His actions at that very moment got him killed.
I do not know how this deal shakes out. But those men all their families friends etc wish they had more sense. Same goes for the man that got shot. Hard to argue with this.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 06:11 PM
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I personally don’t think they were trying to protect anyone’s property , I think these hillbilly’s are guilty as charged. Just my opinion. Might be wrong. Might. IMO, it boils down to misjudgement that someone would stop and give up with a gun pointed at them. The guy would still be alive if he had done that and just waited for the police to show up. He would probably never have been charged with a crime and the three guys would have never seen a prison cell. The victim was most likely convinced he was about to be shot and decided to fight back. No winners and only losers all the way around on this one. If nothing else, these cases hopefully get gun owners to think things through before grabbing a weapon, and in this case, go chasing after someone. I tend to think he was thinking his only way not to die was to get the gun. turns out he was right.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 06:24 PM
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Verdict has been reached.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 06:38 PM
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 06:40 PM
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 06:42 PM
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Verdict has been reached. Travis = guilty all counts. Gregory = guilty on all but one count. Willie = guilty on primary murder counts.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 06:43 PM
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Dang. How many guys did they kill. Sounds like they killed 6 people. Lots of Murders.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 06:49 PM
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Let the celebratory looting and burning begin!
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 07:06 PM
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They were too over zealous protecting a builders property to reasonably believe there wasn't more in their motivations for chasing him down than just private property IMO.......If I'm wrong then they exhibited extremely poor decision making for grown adults and now have to pay the price for it......they should of just let him run away and called the police to report it.....if he would of tried to attack them at their house across from the house he went into then I could believe self defense....
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 07:13 PM
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Bottom line is 4 undesirables are removed from the community.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 07:13 PM
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One of them, perhaps the one who shot the video, has never fired a gun in his life. Now he's going to prison for a very long time because of the actions of someone else. And to make matters worse, he was likely shooting the video with thoughts it would help in defending the actions of his two friends. Again, the mob or pack mentality resulting in very severe consequences.
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Re: Those three men in Georgia
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11/24/21 07:59 PM
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