pretty much if you break into my abode and Im aware.........and I kill you. No law is gonna be called.


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If someone breaks into my home, they most likely will die there. If the cops are not there in 30 minutes, then the electric chain saw will help dispose of the problem. The parts maybe found, but they will be found spread out over several counties, maybe even over 2 or more states.

So a co-worker and I were just talking this today. So you are dead asleep, why they are does not play a role in this "what if", but the police serve a no knock warrant. You believe it is a home invasion and like many have said in this thread you shoot to "defend" yourself and end up killing LEO. Should you be able to use self defense in this case?

The jury will have a verdict tomorrow. They are very close.

For sure tomorrow...wouldn't want to interrupt turkey day.

One of the 10 rules of firearms safety covers this very well. "Be Sure of Your Target, What's In Front of it and What’s Beyond It". If you can't see your target well enough to see if it's law enforcement, you need a better lighting system.

if your in your house asleep , anything kicking the door in is a identified target whether you see it or not

That's a good way to end up in prison, I've seen me do it.

Bad situation that doesn’t end well for the innocent(both Leo and Homeowner).

We had a drug house where our officers were serving a search warrant. They smoked a pit bull in the front yard so the dealer went to front door with a handgun. When they breached the door, after yelling "Police Search Warrant" he fired one shot and was steamrolled by the entry team. I and another detective interviewed him and he said he thought it was a drug rip. We explained the 10 rules of firearms safety to him and filed the case. The officer in the front of the stick went to the range a couple of months later, and when he pulled an AR mag from his chest pouch, all the rounds fell out of it on the ground from the 9mm projectile that had trashed the spring and follower. It turned he was shot in his entry vest by the dealer and didn't even know it.

Someone anyone kicks in my door in the dead of night bullets are flying. I’m not a criminal and this scenario shouldn’t effect me.

Amen I’m not a felon nor do I have a warrant someone kicks in my door in the middle of the night I’m shooting more than one. It’ll be sorted out by the courts. I’m sorry they lost their lives but they shouldn’t be kicking the wrong door.

Yes it will. The government will bury you.

I personally don’t think they were trying to protect anyone’s property , I think these hillbilly’s are guilty as charged. Just my opinion. Might be wrong. Might.

I remember the case of a neighbor seeing smoke and flames from the attic of a home on fire at night and called the FD. They showed up and knocked on the door, as well as every window they could get to, trying to wake up anyone inside. Nobody answered after a long time so they breached the door to keep anyone from getting killed from the fire and to put it out. The guy who finally woke up barked off a bunch of rounds at them as they made entry. That's why a responsible gun owner doesn't shoot at a target they can't identify. I've arrested a lot of burglars and never had one of them wearing bunker gear.

Wild case trapper. 1 in a million

Actually, reality is for me.

my dogs wake me up barking I’m a light sleeper.

When I get woken up startled I don’t grab for a gun. Example I’ve got a mirror that attaches to my shower door with a suction cup. About twice a year that suction cup gives up at about dead of night. I jump up fist cuffed running for the living room, bad guy is armed I’m dead.

Some of the facts in this case I remember and one of the most telling is they have him on camera inside the property at night on 5 different occasions. Theft and burglaries in that area were so bad they set up a citizens watch. I also remember him running towards the truck and instead of just kicking it in gear and going past, he chose to try and fight with the youngest one and wrestle for the shotgun. This was all on video. Will the jury ignore it, who knows but it was certainly undeniable.

Yep, two time felon with a long criminal record. The news always uses a picture of him when he was young in a suit. Rather than using one of his many mug shots.

So we should kill everyone who has a criminal record. Who will decided if the line is drawn at a parking ticket or rape.

Only if he attacks someone with a gun.

is that cathys question or her husbands?

liberalism is a disease Bill. Dont catch it while on vacation

What I take from the video is he was running towards the truck the armed fellow was on the left side of the truck so the runner cut right only to have the armed guy cut him off in front of the truck. Fight or flight at this point but this situation was created by the shooter. Then "dog pack mentality kicked in and the other guy fired. This could have all been avoided. As for the tough guys here. I pray you never find yourself in this situation. It's heavy on the soul.

Amen.

Simple. You break in , You get shot. End of story.