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Re: Stolen Valor [Re: scottfromdallas] #7845103 05/20/20 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
After serving in the Air Force and moving back to Texas in 93, I went to several gun shows with my buddy over the next several years. I was amazed at how many Seals, Rangers & other special forces people I met. Of course my BS meter would go off. I made the comment to him that no one claims to be just a grunt. I asked him where are all the grunts?


You ain't lying. Any real grunt would puff up his chest and proudly proclaim the Infantry wink


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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
After serving in the Air Force and moving back to Texas in 93, I went to several gun shows with my buddy over the next several years. I was amazed at how many Seals, Rangers & other special forces people I met. Of course my BS meter would go off. I made the comment to him that no one claims to be just a grunt. I asked him where are all the grunts?


You ain't lying. Any real grunt would puff up his chest and proudly proclaim the Infantry wink

Everything else is a support unit. up


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This may not be relevant to this thread but I'll put it on anyway. Is it just me that finds that anyone that refers to Viet Nam as tha Nam or da Nam or something like that are usually full of "stuff"? Just my thought.

Re: Stolen Valor [Re: patfatdaddy] #7845925 05/20/20 09:05 PM
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I don't know about that but one thing is for sure, everybody is getting tired of "support the vets". So many people trying to make money off it and so many entitled vets and/or stolen valor and people milking if, has made people just kind of bored of it. I sure am. I don't wana take anything away from our vets, especially not wounded vets Or the ones that made the ultimate sacrifice or especialy their families. Or anyone that has done anything noteworthy. It is just the truth.


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Re: Stolen Valor [Re: patfatdaddy] #7849563 05/24/20 05:47 PM
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Can't say I am tired of "Support the vets" but people that practice "Stolen valor" turn my stomach. Lost both brothers to Agent Orange and their families went through hell getting benefits. Also don't believe the "Draft" should have been done away with. But, it's Memorial Day weekend and that's just my opinion. To each his own.


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Re: Stolen Valor [Re: patfatdaddy] #8043026 11/09/20 02:06 AM
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I remember back in my soldiering days back during the war in the 1980s.

I never embellish my military record and service.

I was in an elite unit and served as a 68E.

I probably deserved the purple heart, but didn't put in for it.

One day while performing my hazardous duties, I was bitten on my right index finger while taking an Xray.
It didn't break the skin, but it did hurt. Anyway, it wasn't during actual combat, so no purple heart. lol.

I say all this in jest, because I often make light of my own 7 years of military service in the National Guard by telling some great dramatic tale of danger only revealing I was a dental specialist at the end of the story
and that my hazardous duty was shooting xrays and assisting in pulling teeth and oral surgery in the War Against Tooth Decay.

I salute the guys that actually did brave combat fields defending our freedoms and those of other folks around the world. .

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Fake SEAL pleads guilty to stolen valor...

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/news/stolen-valor.html


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Re: Stolen Valor [Re: patfatdaddy] #8056099 11/19/20 11:06 AM
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I was a REMF, did the "foreign" tour in Ft. Sill, OK. One injury was a severe paper cut from poor skills at typewriter. Salute to the frontline guys!

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It doesn't matter what your MOS was while in the service. All of us were needed to protect our country whether you were a clerk, cook, mechanic, infantry or special ops. We were all needed to do exactly what we were assigned to do so we are all heroes. Even me, I fueled helicopters.


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Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
Fake SEAL pleads guilty to stolen valor...

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/news/stolen-valor.html


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As my hitch was ending, I went through my last Re UP talk at Personnel. I knew the guy and he showed me my Xfer to Vietnam if I re upped. I had already put in paper work to get back into college at Arlington State College, now UTA. I went home.

Always look back and sorta wish that I had taken them up on it. But, I had gotten married and had a Wife and daughter. I had seen a lot of guys ship out and their wives playing around. Didn't want that.


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You made the right decision. Shame on them for trying to lure you back in that way. Cutthroat mf recruiters, probably would have screwed you anyhow.


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Originally Posted by patfatdaddy
It doesn't matter what your MOS was while in the service. All of us were needed to protect our country whether you were a clerk, cook, mechanic, infantry or special ops. We were all needed to do exactly what we were assigned to do so we are all heroes. Even me, I fueled helicopters.


You may have fueled mine one day. LoL I am another REMF that never made it to any combat zone from Vietnam to Desert Storm even when I asked. I am a Vietnam ERA veteran and don't mind saying so, but I will not EVER say I am a Vietnam Veteran. I think that is reserved to those who actually spent time in that hell hole. As a DUSTOFF pilot, I knew that I would be going as soon as I got out of flight school and also my survival rate wasn't very good but was proud of the mission we had anywhere we were. I think it has been said in this thread, but if you ever met anyone who was a real hero, you wouldn't know it unless someone else told you about it. Think Mike Novasel and the likes of him. Just good ole boys who did something that they thought was the right thing to do at the time never thinking that "hey, this will make me a hero". I too wish these imposters would get slapped down right away, but they will get their punishment in due time.

Thanks all of you who have served, in whatever capacity. BTW, when I was in, (a long time ago) the average number of troops who saw combat was only 10% of the total Army. All the rest were support or reserve re-inforcements for when they were needed.

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Re: Stolen Valor [Re: patfatdaddy] #8456833 11/23/21 04:47 AM
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This whole subject chars my arsehole...my favorite Uncle did two tours in Vietnam, gave 25 years to the Army and died 34 years later from exposure to Agent Orange. My brother who is 52 is retiring now as a Major in the Texas Army National Guard which he went into when he was commissioned a LT after college. He's had numerous deployments and gave the NG his professional career, even though the last few years have been hell on him since like me - he isn't woke enough. He should have retired a Colonel but while a great soldier and leader not the best when it comes to politics (same as me).

I guess having people try to mimic your service is better than what my Uncle came home to in '68, but still it dishonors the real soldiers service and sacrifice and chaps my butt.

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Was in the Navy from 1970-1976, so technically during Vietnam Era. Never set foot over there. Spent most of the time pushing a submarine full of nuclear warheads around 3 different oceans, in the Cold War against Russia. Had a few exciting moments for the entire crew, but nothing individually dangerous. Still proud of every day of my service.

The stories that get to us is that every sub sailor was on a hunter killer fast boat, doing black ops stuff, and have been sworn to secrecy about ever talking about where they went!!! Some did, but those guys are very rare.

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There are far too many people out there doing that same thing, veterans included. Just be proud of what you did and be done with it. And, far too many veterans out there are stabbing other veterans in the back just to get ahead. If there is such a thing as BROTHERHOOD, I havent seen it for a very long time. Ive been screwed worse by other veteerans than any civilian ever tried to shaft me and for nothing. Anyway, thats enough of the soapbox. I would like to get out and hunt while there is still anyplace to hunt on. I live in Killeen, Tx outside Fort Hood Army Base. God bless ya'll and have a great Christmas

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