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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse trial [Re: ntxtrapper] #8450399 11/16/21 05:34 PM
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Jury asks for copies of self-defense instructions
Forty-five minutes into deliberations, the jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial has asked for 11 copies of jury instructions, particularly pages 1-6 which go over the terminology of self-defense.


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It's beyond me how anyone can bring race into this when everyone involved is white.

It’s not beyond me bro, every damn retarded libtard are unable to think strait, they’ve been brainwashed to the fullest extent, show me a manly libtard, you can’t , they’re all eat up with the dumbazz, even the ones that think they’re manly are beta’s. I mean for real, but there’s no damn way a real man that loves his freedoms and his rights can be a libtard.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse trial [Re: DannyB] #8450464 11/16/21 06:55 PM
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Not sure what verdict will be but after watching a good deal of the final arguments I’m convinced that council for BOTH sides doesn’t have a clue about firearms or their use. Very sad for a trial of this substance.



I agree. I've watched bits of this. I can only take that prosecutor so much. However, I keep hearing about racking or re-racking, etc. But they also say that the expert LEO said the gun functioned properly. I even saw that tool defense attorney take a ruler and measure the distance it takes for the charging handle to work.

What is the deal with that? Did the gun jam? I did hear he fired four rounds in 3/4 seconds. That's pretty good trigger work in my book.


Yep, have to question the accuracy of that. That would be .18 splits. That's Jerry Miculek kind of speed.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse trial [Re: bigbob_ftw] #8450484 11/16/21 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw

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Jury asks for copies of self-defense instructions
Forty-five minutes into deliberations, the jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial has asked for 11 copies of jury instructions, particularly pages 1-6 which go over the terminology of self-defense.

I hope that is a good sign. No doubt in my mind he should be found not guilty of all charges. Absolute disgrace he was even charged.


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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse trial [Re: ntxtrapper] #8450625 11/16/21 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Fitz
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Jury asks for copies of self-defense instructions
Forty-five minutes into deliberations, the jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial has asked for 11 copies of jury instructions, particularly pages 1-6 which go over the terminology of self-defense.

I hope that is a good sign. No doubt in my mind he should be found not guilty of all charges. Absolute disgrace he was even charged.


I think this is good. It tells me they aren't just dismissing the self defense claim, they are at least considering it. If I had to guess, I would say there are jurors working to convince a holdout it was self defense.


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I think asking for copies of the instructions is both good and bad for Rittenhouse.
Good - they are looking at the instructions and all the charges. That probably means they don't think he's guilty of at least one of the first degree charges.
Bad - they are looking at all the charges including the lessor charges. IMO, that's bad for Rittenhouse because it means they may be trying to fit his self defense actions into one of the lessor charges.


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Time will tell, but I felt that a verdict by lunch time or shortly thereafter would signal best outcome for him. It seems to me, the longer it goes, the more concern that they are weighing levels of convictions. Who really knows, but perhaps the request for info on self defense rules was to weigh the incorrect pronouncements on self defense rules the prosecutor gave in final. If you lose self defense protection by bringing a weapon, there would be no self defense in any shooting case ... even if the attacker was unarmed, fists can be quite deadly...likewise a foot, a rock, a stick, or a bottle.

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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw

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Jury asks for copies of self-defense instructions
Forty-five minutes into deliberations, the jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial has asked for 11 copies of jury instructions, particularly pages 1-6 which go over the terminology of self-defense.


I wonder why 11 copies and not 12? Does that mean only 1 thinks he isn’t guilty? Or did they already have a copy?




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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
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Jury asks for copies of self-defense instructions
Forty-five minutes into deliberations, the jury in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial has asked for 11 copies of jury instructions, particularly pages 1-6 which go over the terminology of self-defense.


I wonder why 11 copies and not 12? Does that mean only 1 thinks he isn’t guilty? Or did they already have a copy?

I believe that they already had one.


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Latest is that 2 jurors are the holdup citing worries about their families and being doused by Antifa.




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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Latest is that 2 jurors are the holdup citing worries about their families and being doused by Antifa.

Replace them, they have a large jury pool.



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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Latest is that 2 jurors are the holdup citing worries about their families and being doused by Antifa.



Although very believable, where did this come from?

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Latest is that 2 jurors are the holdup citing worries about their families and being doused by Antifa.



Although very believable, where did this come from?


Jack Posobiec claims he heard it from a US Marshall.




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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Latest is that 2 jurors are the holdup citing worries about their families and being doused by Antifa.


Wrong mentality.

There's hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of people that wish they would be attacked by Antifa. It would be an opportunity to kill the bad.

Those jurors should be armed, ready, and welcome it. That would make them true Americans.


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Jesse Waters said jurors have been videoed coming and going. mad

He said there are 500 National Guard troops on standby. Let-r-rip --rifle

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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Latest is that 2 jurors are the holdup citing worries about their families and being doused by Antifa.

This is absolutely BS!! This dudes life hangs in the balance of jurors afraid of doing the right thing? Those puzzies should have bowed out if that’s the case. Complete BS


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Originally Posted by deerfeeder

And I guess the DA conveniently failed to disclose this to the defendant's attorney!


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The jury has called it quits for today. Will resume tomorrow.

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Jesse Waters said jurors have been videoed coming and going. mad

He said there are 500 National Guard troops on standby. Let-r-rip --rifle


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