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I’m adding a couple LED lights to our Mule. I’ve seen diagrams with and without using relays. How important are relays?


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The relay will handle the electrical load (amps) of the lights rather than the switch.


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I would suggest relays on anything drawing more than 5 amps. So will most manufacturers.


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Thanks! Also, the mule has a relatively small battery. WAs thinking about going to a larger battery or putting a second one wired parallel. Thoughts?


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Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
Thanks! Also, the mule has a relatively small battery. WAs thinking about going to a larger battery or putting a second one wired parallel. Thoughts?


I kept my battery. I have LEDs galore. Including one that's the full width of the roof. Only turn the lights one with the engine running. The big light bar, you can hear the engine work a little harder when I hit the switch. But it immediately recovers.


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I picked up three of these (1 for each set of lights) but wanted to make sure I was going the right direction.


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You can get a complete, ready to go harness with a relay, connections, switch, etc for cheap. I’m sure Amazon has them, I got one from harbor freight for ~$20

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Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
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I picked up three of these (1 for each set of lights) but wanted to make sure I was going the right direction.

Nice kit.

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that is a nice kit... I need to get one or two of those.

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Not sure about the Mule but on my Gator 835 I found some open wires that are "keyed" so when I shut the machine off after a few seconds all my lights go off as well so I can't run the battery down leaving a light on. Just food for thought.


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Unless you have a switch that is rated for at least as many amps as the light draws you need a relay. On my Polaris ATV I used the light switch to trigger the relay. The bar comes on when I hit the brights. Power comes off the fuse board.


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Originally Posted by Stump_jumper
Unless you have a switch that is rated for at least as many amps as the light draws you need a relay.

Have to think about the charging system capabilities as well, if it's one of the smaller mule's such as a 610 or SX model, the charging system only produces 16 amps on those if i remember right..
bigger 4010's have a 20 amp i think, may be a 40 or 50 amp on those.

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Which is the (+) and which is the ground? Normally DC is red is hot and black Is ground while AC black is hot and white is common. The Light bar is red with black and the work lights are black with white. Neither came with instructions and I couldn’t find anything on the internet. Does it matter??? I believe it should and I want it to be right.

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Yes Sir it does matter!

Black and White pair (black is +/white is - )

Red and Black pair (red is +/ black is - )

A lot of 12-24VDC wiring is color coded in Black/White too.

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Originally Posted by RayB
The relay will handle the electrical load (amps) of the lights rather than the switch.

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Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler

Which is the (+) and which is the ground? Normally DC is red is hot and black Is ground while AC black is hot and white is common. The Light bar is red with black and the work lights are black with white. Neither came with instructions and I couldn’t find anything on the internet. Does it matter??? I believe it should and I want it to be right.

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LEDs are polarity sensitive. If you reverse they will most likely just not work.


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Thanks guys.


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Do the mule kick or buck when your running dem wires?

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Originally Posted by BigPig
Please tell me you didn’t use wire nuts

I'm sure he just twisted them together and wrapped in electrical tape grin

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Lights are all mounted. Wiring will begin tomorrow morning.

I had to make my own brackets. This all started with my lovely bride wanting a tinted window/visor across the top of the roll cage. Couldn’t find anyone who makes them so I made my own. I had the light bar but it was wider than the roll cage frame so I made brackets to mount both. Then I decided to add lights to the rear and lights shining down into the bed.

This is where I am so far. Sun visor/windshield and 50” light bar....
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I started out with some aluminum plate, a piece of angle iron, and some U-bolts. Only used a metal chop saw, sawzall, jigsaw, drill, and vise to make the brackets.

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Do the mule kick or buck when your running dem wires?


I’ll let ya know after tomorrow..... cheers


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Originally Posted by BigPig
Please tell me you didn’t use wire nuts


No Sir! All connections will be soldered then apply silicone, slide over some heat shrink and use the heat gun to make a waterproof connection. Using a grounding bar for all the ground wires. Planning on making a small panel to mount the relays and grounding block to. We’ll see how that goes tomorrow.... roflmao

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