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Anybody have any trouble with the HornadyPrecision Hunter 6.5 creedmoorin 143 elder. Couple guys tell me they can't get it to group

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Shoots 3/4 MOA out of my Remington 700V...not too shabby for factory ammo. I like it, wish I had more of it, but hate paying 3 bucks a round for it frown.


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Thanks Attwoods in Paris has it for 35 a box

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See my post below “Colorado Bull Elk”. 2nd elk was shot with that load

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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe2016
Thanks Attwoods in Paris has it for 35 a box

I'd buy a couple of cases at that price. That's great ammo that groups very well for me.


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I have shot that ammo for other people that had me mount and zer their scopes. The last time was 6 days ago. A Tikka T-3 that was brand new. I cleaned it, shot 3, cooled, shot 3, and the last three rounds I fired were touching at 100 yards.

The "couple guys" that claimed otherwise are the oddballs not the normal.


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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor ammo [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #8446190 11/12/21 12:56 PM
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All they said was they were sighted in with different ammo and came across this at a good price and wanted to give it a try. Shot.a few and it was nowhere close. . I been shooting Winchester for over 30 yes in my deer rifles and never had a problem Just wondering what yall thought about it

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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe2016
All they said was they were sighted in with different ammo and came across this at a good price and wanted to give it a try. Shot.a few and it was nowhere close.

What does "close" mean? Close to the same point of impact? 5 rounds close to one another (a group)? If the POI shifted with different ammo but makes a decent 5 shot group, adjust the turrets and move on. If it simply won't group, either their rifles don't like the ammo, or they have different problems.

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Some rifles can be very finicky, but mine shoots it well. I hand load and primarily use the 143 ELD-X, but I keep a box of the factory loads just in case.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
I have shot that ammo for other people that had me mount and zer their scopes. The last time was 6 days ago. A Tikka T-3 that was brand new. I cleaned it, shot 3, cooled, shot 3, and the last three rounds I fired were touching at 100 yards.

The "couple guys" that claimed otherwise are the oddballs not the normal.

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I’ve shot that ammo in three different rifles: Savage, Ruger, and Tikka. All three shot it under 3/4” at 100 yards. The Savage and Tikka can do it under .5” if I do my part.

I have the same question posed above as to what “nowhere close” means. If they are expecting it to shoot to the same POI, they will be disappointed. What size groups are they getting?

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Originally Posted by Adchunts
I’ve shot that ammo in three different rifles: Savage, Ruger, and Tikka. All three shot it under 3/4” at 100 yards. The Savage and Tikka can do it under .5” if I do my part.

I have the same question posed above as to what “nowhere close” means. If they are expecting it to shoot to the same POI, they will be disappointed. What size groups are they getting?


All three of those rifle brands are known shooters. Add in Sako to the list as well.

When anyone is bringing me a mass produced rifle to work up a load for, and they tell me one of those brands, I expect it to be an easy testing procedure.

I also would like to know the wording. Did POI just shift? Or did the ammo fail to shoot consistently?


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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe2016
Anybody have any trouble with the HornadyPrecision Hunter 6.5 creedmoorin 143 elder. Couple guys tell me they can't get it to group


That load shoots very well in both of my Savage rifles. However, you and your two friends are not the first I've heard who reported having problems finding a 6.5 CM load their rifle would shoot well, myself included. It's by far the pickiest caliber I've ever run across. If you had reported just one of your friends having problems I would have suggested checking the scope base and rings. However, two gun owners having the same experience definitely falls in line with what I and others have learned after buying a 6.5 CM.

For what it's worth, I found that Winchester's 125-grain Deer Season XP ammo offers the same ballistic performance as the ELD-X in both of my Savage rifles and cost less, of course when you can find it.

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Thanks guys. Had a friend that called and said he found it for 35 a box and asked if I had shot any of it. Just trying to find out before he bought some Thank I know the answer now Thanks for yalls help.

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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe2016
Thanks guys. Had a friend that called and said he found it for 35 a box and asked if I had shot any of it. Just trying to find out before he bought some Thank I know the answer now Thanks for yalls help.


Glad you have a solution in the works.

My first 6.5 CM rifle taught me to never buy more than one box of a specific brand of ammo to try in a new rifle, no matter how well that brand shoots in all your other rifles.

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35 a box? Dang, the brass alone might be worth that! I'd buy as much as I could get at that $.


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LOL. What I thought he went and got 6 boxes

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Friend of mine that doesn't handload runs that in his Savage 10T-SR. We've taken it out to 800 yards and it was still shooting well under an MOA at that range. I suspect the guys that can't get it to group just have finicky rifles that don't like it. Or they may have something wrong with their equipment. Or they might just be terrible shots.


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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe2016
Thanks Attwoods in Paris has it for 35 a box

That is a screaming deal for that ammo.


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So, I was able to buy 10 boxes of this, all the same lot. I got five on the way to the Panhandle, five on the way home. Do a search for Atwoods locations, there may be one near you, somewhere. I'm headed back tomorrow, I may do it again.


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So, I was able to buy 10 boxes of this, all the same lot. I got five on the way to the Panhandle, five on the way home. Do a search for Atwoods locations, there may be one near you, somewhere. I'm headed back tomorrow, I may do it again.


Makes you wonder as to the true source of the hefty margins on ammo.


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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
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Anybody have any trouble with the HornadyPrecision Hunter 6.5 creedmoorin 143 elder. Couple guys tell me they can't get it to group


That load shoots very well in both of my Savage rifles. However, you and your two friends are not the first I've heard who reported having problems finding a 6.5 CM load their rifle would shoot well, myself included. It's by far the pickiest caliber I've ever run across. If you had reported just one of your friends having problems I would have suggested checking the scope base and rings. However, two gun owners having the same experience definitely falls in line with what I and others have learned after buying a 6.5 CM.

For what it's worth, I found that Winchester's 125-grain Deer Season XP ammo offers the same ballistic performance as the ELD-X in both of my Savage rifles and cost less, of course when you can find it.


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Anybody have any trouble with the HornadyPrecision Hunter 6.5 creedmoorin 143 elder. Couple guys tell me they can't get it to group


That load shoots very well in both of my Savage rifles. However, you and your two friends are not the first I've heard who reported having problems finding a 6.5 CM load their rifle would shoot well, myself included. It's by far the pickiest caliber I've ever run across. If you had reported just one of your friends having problems I would have suggested checking the scope base and rings. However, two gun owners having the same experience definitely falls in line with what I and others have learned after buying a 6.5 CM.

For what it's worth, I found that Winchester's 125-grain Deer Season XP ammo offers the same ballistic performance as the ELD-X in both of my Savage rifles and cost less, of course when you can find it.


This is a joke, right?


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Anybody have any trouble with the HornadyPrecision Hunter 6.5 creedmoorin 143 elder. Couple guys tell me they can't get it to group


That load shoots very well in both of my Savage rifles. However, you and your two friends are not the first I've heard who reported having problems finding a 6.5 CM load their rifle would shoot well, myself included. It's by far the pickiest caliber I've ever run across. If you had reported just one of your friends having problems I would have suggested checking the scope base and rings. However, two gun owners having the same experience definitely falls in line with what I and others have learned after buying a 6.5 CM.

For what it's worth, I found that Winchester's 125-grain Deer Season XP ammo offers the same ballistic performance as the ELD-X in both of my Savage rifles and cost less, of course when you can find it.


This is a joke, right?


At 100 yards when shooting both of my Savage rifles (Model 110 and Axis), the Winchester 125-grain loads hit within the same two-inch circle as the 143-grain ELD-X. As for downrange energy, the ELD-X creates 2007 ft-lbs of energy at that distance while the Winchester comes in at 1994. Since most of my shots are within 100 yards, that's close enough to spend less on the Winchester loads.

Others have reported their satisfaction with Winchester's Deer Season XP ammo, including many 6.5 Creedmoor owners. Not being a "me too" cartridge doesn't mean it's not an excellent performer.

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Anybody have any trouble with the HornadyPrecision Hunter 6.5 creedmoorin 143 elder. Couple guys tell me they can't get it to group


That load shoots very well in both of my Savage rifles. However, you and your two friends are not the first I've heard who reported having problems finding a 6.5 CM load their rifle would shoot well, myself included. It's by far the pickiest caliber I've ever run across. If you had reported just one of your friends having problems I would have suggested checking the scope base and rings. However, two gun owners having the same experience definitely falls in line with what I and others have learned after buying a 6.5 CM.

For what it's worth, I found that Winchester's 125-grain Deer Season XP ammo offers the same ballistic performance as the ELD-X in both of my Savage rifles and cost less, of course when you can find it.


This is a joke, right?


At 100 yards when shooting both of my Savage rifles (Model 110 and Axis), the Winchester 125-grain loads hit within the same two-inch circle as the 143-grain ELD-X. As for downrange energy, the ELD-X creates 2007 ft-lbs of energy at that distance while the Winchester comes in at 1994. Since most of my shots are within 100 yards, that's close enough to spend less on the Winchester loads.

Others have reported their satisfaction with Winchester's Deer Season XP ammo, including many 6.5 Creedmoor owners. Not being a "me too" cartridge doesn't mean it's not an excellent performer.


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