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Tractor Guys #8444108 11/10/21 02:13 AM
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Who's the resident tractor experts?

Have a guy on the lease owns a Kioti LK3054. Bought it back in 2013 used. He was using it at the lease and it got too hot and has a knock in the engine. Still cranks and runs, we've only run it to put it up and load/unload since it happened. When you first crank it and keep the RPM's down it does not make the knocking sound. When you rev up the engine it starts. We took it to a Kioti dealer and they wanted $12-$15K just for parts to fix it and wouldn't even quote labor. He only paid $6,600 for it back in 2013.

Didn't know if anyone knew of anyone who does rebuilds or if it was even worth it. Think the owner would like to have it fixed but for what the dealership wants to fix it I'm sure he'd be looking close to $20,000. He can go buy a new/used one and be better off. He'd like to fix this one because of some sentimental value I think the tractor holds.

Anyone know a guy?

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ouch. no help in your area ... might be time to run it thru an auction and take proceeds to buy new/used.


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I would try to do some digging, find a diesel mechanich and talk to them. Chances that Kioti is using their own in house proprietary engine are slim, there is likely some other avenue to acquire the same engine. I can have a new diesel engine put in my truck for under $10,000 including a new turbo and injection pump... that price is crazy.


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Originally Posted by redchevy
I would try to do some digging, find a diesel mechanich and talk to them. Chances that Kioti is using their own in house proprietary engine are slim, there is likely some other avenue to acquire the same engine. I can have a new diesel engine put in my truck for under $10,000 including a new turbo and injection pump... that price is crazy.


Actually, it looks like it is their motor.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/001/5/3/1538-kioti-lk3054.html


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Unfortunately Navasot is over his PM limit and hasn’t posted since March. I’ll see if I can reach out to him at J5 tractors.

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If you want to check the wear on the main bearings and rod bearings, it’s not too difficult to pull the oil pan and remove the bearing caps one at a time and check them with an inexpensive tool called plasti gauge. If the bearings are scored or worn, the tractor is yard art.

Heat does bad things to engines.

You can try pulling the rocker cover and seeing if there’s anything obvious.

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I would try to do some digging, find a diesel mechanich and talk to them. Chances that Kioti is using their own in house proprietary engine are slim, there is likely some other avenue to acquire the same engine. I can have a new diesel engine put in my truck for under $10,000 including a new turbo and injection pump... that price is crazy.


Actually, it looks like it is their motor.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/001/5/3/1538-kioti-lk3054.html

I googled the engine name listed on the site you linked. It is made by Daedong, which makes other things as well. One listing I found for it says it is also used in a mahindra tractor, and saw listings for used ones that came out of some kind of blue tractor, whihc mahindra and kioti are not. Its possible that they are unique, but I believe some of them are much like riding lawn mowers MTD makes em all and puts a different sticker/paint on it.


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I would try to do some digging, find a diesel mechanich and talk to them. Chances that Kioti is using their own in house proprietary engine are slim, there is likely some other avenue to acquire the same engine. I can have a new diesel engine put in my truck for under $10,000 including a new turbo and injection pump... that price is crazy.


Actually, it looks like it is their motor.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/001/5/3/1538-kioti-lk3054.html

I googled the engine name listed on the site you linked. It is made by Daedong, which makes other things as well. One listing I found for it says it is also used in a mahindra tractor, and saw listings for used ones that came out of some kind of blue tractor, whihc mahindra and kioti are not. Its possible that they are unique, but I believe some of them are much like riding lawn mowers MTD makes em all and puts a different sticker/paint on it.


On the Tractor Data page, if you go to the Kioti main page, this is what it says:

Kioti is the trade name for Daedong tractors in markets outside of Korea. Daedong was founded in 1947, producing its first tractor in South Korea in 1968. In 1993, Daedong expanded into the US market with Daedong-USA, and the Kioti tractor brand.


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Ok so it might be their own in house design, but it sounds like they might sell it to others.

Maybe maybe not, was just something to explore. I got a tractor guy that would probably look at it down the road from me, but San Antonio is a long way from Waxahachie.


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I can repair it for less than the dealer, but I’m booked solid until March. It will still be costly, but I normally can go through the little 100 Hp 4 cyl Kubota’s for around $7k with OEM parts and machine work.

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I don't have any first hand experience with Kioti, but I do have a little bit of tractor experience with other brands. First thing that I would suggest is to go to my favorite tractor forum and ask the question there. The link is for Kioti tractors, and the guys there with Kioti tractors are very helpful.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/

In my experience, tractor dealerships vary from extremely helpful to extremely worthless. The bigger brands tend to be where you get the best service. Kioti tends to be a middle of the road brand where the guy owning the dealership decides what level of service you get, if any. To avoid dealing with fixing things, they charge absurd prices so you either go somewhere else, or they make so much money off of you that they will grudgingly do the repairs.

I have personally dealt with Case and New Holland repair shops that will go out of their way to show me how to do the repair myself, and where I can go to get parts cheaper then what they sell them for. The level of effort that they will go to, in order to NOT have to work on my tractors has been incredible. When one of the hydraulic pumps on my dozer went out, they wanted $25,000 just for the replacement pump. They refused to give me a price on labor, but said it could be as much as the price of the pump. Instead, they told me that if I took the pump out of my dozer and brought it to the shop that they use, that they would have them rebuild it for me under their account so it would cost me less. I did all the labor, the repair shop did their part, and in the end, I spent a little over $3,000

If you have the time to spare, it might be worthwhile to visit with the mechanics at some other brands and ask them where they send their work off to be done. Very few dealerships do all of the work in their shops. They always know where the best places are to get the best deals are. You just have to ask nicely, and be face to face. Nobody gives out anything over the phone or through an email.

Here in Tyler, there is a machine shop that does engine rebuilds for just a little more then the cost of the machine work. His prices are extremely reasonable. Especially if you buy all the parts for the rebuild from him. All you have to do is remove the engine and bring it to him. When he's done, you have a brand new engine for a lot less money. They do gasoline and diesel engines, including all sizes and brands of tractors. It would be worthwhile looking around your area to find out where everyone takes their engines to have machine work done, and see if they will rebuild the engine for you.

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Tractors are extremely expensive to do major repairs on. Many times it will cost more to do a major repair on a tractor someone bought used than the cost of the of the tractor. Before doing any repairs like the OP is speaking of I would see what the value of the tractor is. Pretty easy to get more in one than it is worth.

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Originally Posted by redchevy
I googled the engine name listed on the site you linked. It is made by Daedong, which makes other things as well. One listing I found for it says it is also used in a mahindra tractor, and saw listings for used ones that came out of some kind of blue tractor, whihc mahindra and kioti are not.

Pretty sure that blue tractor is LS, another Korean. There's a place near us that sells both LS and Kioti.

Those Korean tractors are the Kia & Hyundai of the tractor world. How many 20-30 year old Kias do you see on the road still? How many 20-30 year old Jap and American cars do you see? Next time I have to buy a new tractor it will be orange or green.

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Originally Posted by Txhunter65
Unfortunately Navasot is over his PM limit and hasn’t posted since March. I’ll see if I can reach out to him at J5 tractors.



Sorry guys im clearing out my messages as we speak if anyone would like to save it also my email is gavin@j5tractors.com

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curious to know what happened with this im sure the engine is shot but did the valve seat drop and tear everything inside to shreds?

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