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Hunting in Modern America - The Great Divide #8442040 11/08/21 01:47 AM
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I'm a member of Several other forums and Social Media Groups, ranging from Traditional Hunting Groups to Mule Deer/Mountain Game to Upland Hunters.

I've been observing a trend that has become more and more obvious, especially this year, in that being the hatred we have for one another.

The battle here in Texas for the past few decades has been High Fence vs. Low Fence, whether they are sporting or not or whether the deer taken behind a fence higher than 4' "counts". But that debacle has now been surpassed by people bickering over everything imaginable; Crossbows vs. Vertical bows, Feeders vs. Non Feeders, and my new favorite topic, Whitetail Deer killed on Public Ground. This isn't something we have to deal with as much in TX but in some of the bowhunting groups I belong to, its common for Public Land hunters put themselves on a pedestal as their kills are perceived to be "superior" than a private land kill in the eyes of their public land peers. Ya'll should read some of the comments directed at folks who post up pictures of deer killed on Private land....its ridiculous.

People argue over everything.....Kuiu Clothing, the 6.5 Creedmoor, shooting a 2 year old buck vs. a doe.....it seems the divide has been ever widening and I can't see it ever closing.


We don't have to worry about the Anti-hunters....our fellow brethren will drive more away from the sport than any PETA member ever could


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It’s been that way for decades, public vs private, guided vs unguided, LO tag vs draw tag. Sheep vs goats, WT vs Mule deer, Etc

With that said there is also more help and encouragement then ever before to help people get started in hunting.


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
It’s been that way for decades, public vs private, guided vs unguided, LO tag vs draw tag. Sheep vs goats, WT vs Mule deer, Etc

With that said there is also more help and encouragement then ever before to help people get started in hunting.



I’ve been pleasantly surprised in the Traditional Bowhunting Community. Everyone has been super eager to help and haven’t ran across any turds


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: Hunting in Modern America - The Great Divide [Re: txtrophy85] #8442412 11/08/21 02:43 PM
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I feel in general people are more prone to argue now than ever before

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Originally Posted by Biscuit
I feel in general people are more prone to argue now than ever before


True story, and prove they are correct, at least in their own mind.


I had my patience tested... I'm negative.
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I feel in general people are more prone to argue now than ever before


True story, and prove they are correct, at least in their own mind.


Yes, exactly. I don’t know what it is , maybe the access to data but there’s an argument to be had if you want to engage in it

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With the internet ppl seem to be more prone to argue any point now-a-days. Less risk of getting into a physical altercation when compared to in person interactions. I’ve seen the same hatred in different hunting pages. The most humorous is the hatred towards those who shoot the 6.5 creedmoor. Personally I don’t care how or where you hunt as long as it’s legal, game on.


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The amount of noise in society these days is insane. I'm not just referring to loud exhausts, either, although the number of vehicles on the road and the noise they generate is all part of it. Then you add in the 'noise' from social media and you've created a society that is very stressed. Stressed people react highly to contentious situations.


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Re: Hunting in Modern America - The Great Divide [Re: txtrophy85] #8442607 11/08/21 05:11 PM
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"Hatred" is an awful strong word. I think it's more of the ease of trashing someone online that doesn't agree with your views. Most recently I can't wait to get to work, sign in, and see what today brings in the GR Elliot thread over on the Migratory Forum.

Very entertaining stuff there.

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Every one and everything is different. I have had someone talk down about private land hunting and brag about their success public land hunting to later find out that they live seconds away from xyz public land and spend 100 times more time their than I do on our own private land or ever feasibly could on public.

I just dont care much what folks do. We got our thing we do on our property and the rest of the world has theirs.


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"I just dont care much what folks do. We got our thing we do on our property and the rest of the world has theirs."

how simple is that?

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I think “hatred” is too strong a word also.

You are confusing to me. You post this, while also at practically the same time posting the Wensel piece that is basically a long spite-filled rant against lots of trends, methods, etc. that have arisen in hunting over the past 30 years or so, saying you don’t disagree with much of it.

I’ve come to realize that oftentimes folks see folks who disagree with them as hating on them, while seeing their disagreements with others as just another valid perspective.

That said, there are lines that separate right from wrong, ethical from unethical, hunting from killing. Some know where those lines are, and some don’t.


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I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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The takeaway I got from Wensel article is people nowadays want the quickest payout with the least effort. I didn’t get it as being a spite filled rant.

What I’m talking about like Redchevy mentioned, is someone slamming a private land kill because it wasn’t killed on public land, or slamming someone for wearing Sitka camo, or something along those lines.


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Well, I've had passion for hunting since I was 11 yrs old, almost 50 years ago now, and my opinion on the OP is that I hunt legally, have hunted private and public land for quite a few species in several countries, and across the SW USA. Bottom line is I don't give a crap what people think about what, where, or how I hunt. As long as it's legal, I don't give a crap how someone else hunts either. If asked, I do have an opinion on most hunting subjects though.

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Originally Posted by Hudbone
"I just dont care much what folks do. We got our thing we do on our property and the rest of the world has theirs."

how simple is that?

This is how I feel.
High fence, low fence, no fence it’s up to the hunters.
Compound, recurve,long bow,cross bow it’s up to the hunters.
Private, public it’s up to the hunters.
Rifle,shot gun,muzzle loader, it’s up to the hunters.
Ect.
I mind my business and that’s how it should be.

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Tomorrow I will be 75 years old. I have in those years done it all. I could give a rats a** what anyone thinks of me or what I have done. And I could give the same rats a** on what others have done. Do what you want and enjoy and the hell what others think of it. Now a days folks worry too much about what others think of them. The hell with them. Life is short. Do what you want and be happy and enjoy it.

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In many ways life was much more enjoyable pre internet & cell service. Face to face interaction was the norm.

Simpler. More peaceful.

Frustration and annoyance is often the norm today.


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Originally Posted by Biscuit
I feel in general people are more prone to argue now than ever before

No, you’re completely wrong. Let me explain why …

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Hatred definitely too strong a word. I think its mostly the information age, social media or whatever. So easy to exchange information, including opinions, and so easy to say it differently from behind the keyboard which often times dominoes.


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Originally Posted by syncerus
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I feel in general people are more prone to argue now than ever before

No, you’re completely wrong. Let me explain why …

smile ani


I was wondering why this kind of response was taking so long.


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Originally Posted by 71Rcode
In many ways life was much more enjoyable pre internet & cell service. Face to face interaction was the norm.

Simpler. More peaceful.

Frustration and annoyance is often the norm today.

I agree…..this is like a disease that’s spread through the population…..it comes down to people for the most part don’t have peace of mind, comfort in their own skin…..they crave attention and praise from others to achieve legend in their own mind status……IMO

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I will say this - I was on several other forums and this one is by far and away the most welcoming and civil. I know of one that reminds me of junior high school - name calling, etc.
And I stay away from FB - bunch of filth on that place -

Hopefully this forum will stay between the lines going forward -


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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted by 71Rcode
In many ways life was much more enjoyable pre internet & cell service. Face to face interaction was the norm.

Simpler. More peaceful.

Frustration and annoyance is often the norm today.

I agree…..this is like a disease that’s spread through the population…..it comes down to people for the most part don’t have peace of mind, comfort in their own skin…..they crave attention and praise from others to achieve legend in their own mind status……IMO



I agree. Lot's of insecure people anymore, and many thin-skinned ones as well.

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