texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
TheGame1984513, Elkbugling338, Emmet, JimFromTN, Herrmann315
69407 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 109,526
bill oxner 90,003
SnakeWrangler 62,504
stxranchman 59,310
Gravytrain 44,648
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
BMD 41,232
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics608,176
Posts11,368,019
Members84,407
Most Online19,184
Feb 5th, 2020
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
What is this.......Bui #8430608 10/26/21 08:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
F
flintknapper Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
F
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
Black Coyote, Dog, Coydog..........?

Built like a Yote, moves like a Yote. I've seen some nearly black Coyotes before...but not with a white/light throat patch.

NEVER seen any of the neighbors dogs by themselves late at night.
What do you guys think? I simply don't know.



I know the video doesn't show it too well....or for very long.


Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430611 10/26/21 08:17 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 23,784
skinnerback Offline
THF Celebrity Chef
Offline
THF Celebrity Chef
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 23,784
Halloween's around the corner.

I say werewolf.

Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430614 10/26/21 08:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 409
F
falmike Online Content
Bird Dog
Online Content
Bird Dog
F
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 409
German Sheppard?

Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: falmike] #8430623 10/26/21 08:32 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
F
flintknapper Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
F
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
Originally Posted by falmike
German Sheppard?


Never seen one on my property and no one has one within miles that I am aware of. Doesn't mean one couldn't have been dumped, but a GS would be WAY larger than this canine.

I've been looking at the video full screen on my computer.

The tail doesn't look right to me for a normal Coyote.

Last edited by flintknapper; 10/26/21 08:33 PM.

Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430626 10/26/21 08:37 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 14,543
B
Biscuit Online Shocked
THF Celebrity
Online Shocked
THF Celebrity
B
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 14,543
That’s a hard call

Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430661 10/26/21 08:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 13,800
Q
QuitShootinYoungBucks Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Q
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 13,800
1st coyote I ever killed was that color. Tail does seem funny, but the rest is about right for yote.


[Linked Image]

https://web.archive.org/web/20170223065011/http:/www.rrdvegas.com/silencer-cleaning.html
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430664 10/26/21 09:02 PM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,308
T
Texan Til I Die Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
T
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,308
Yep you don't see a curved tail like that on most yotes and they don't carry them up high like that. I think there's some dog in there someplace.


Silver spurs and gold tequila
keep me hanging on.
Pretty girls and old cantinas
give me shelter from the storm.
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430679 10/26/21 09:26 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 22,033
D
dkershen Offline
Rev Dave
Offline
Rev Dave
D
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 22,033
Just a dog.


To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.

www.NewHopeEquine.com - Health and Healing through Horses.
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430695 10/26/21 09:45 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 90,003
bill oxner Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 90,003
Difficult for me to see.


Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill


[Linked Image]




Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430709 10/26/21 10:11 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,367
1
1955 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
1
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,367
Not sure confused2

Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430710 10/26/21 10:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,083
R
RTW Online Content
Pro Tracker
Online Content
Pro Tracker
R
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,083
Seems like a dog to me.


I'm a Sheepdog!

Come hunting with us! Click the link below to learn more!
JGL Hunting
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: Texan Til I Die] #8430712 10/26/21 10:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
F
flintknapper Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
F
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
Yep you don't see a curved tail like that on most yotes and they don't carry them up high like that. I think there's some dog in there someplace.



Oh....I have pics and videos of plenty of Yotes carrying their tails high. Also yotes with curved, up-swept tails, but 'most' are not.

IDK....just something about this one that strikes me as a bit odd.


Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430718 10/26/21 10:21 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 35,842
S
Stub Online Happy
THF Celebrity
Online Happy
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 35,842
A Black dog with a White throat patch up

Last edited by Stub; 10/26/21 10:23 PM.

texas flag

Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: bill oxner] #8430728 10/26/21 10:31 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
F
flintknapper Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
F
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Difficult for me to see.


I know....and I apologize for that.

The video is not very definitive. Doesn't show the Canine for very long and is at night.

I can enlarge the video some.....but it loses quality so badly....that pretty much only the 'gait' and general appearance are of any benefit.



Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430730 10/26/21 10:33 PM
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 751
R
Ringtail Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
R
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 751
I'm going to have to go with dog. May have been dumped in your area although it looks in good shape.

Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: Stub] #8430732 10/26/21 10:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
F
flintknapper Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
F
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
Originally Posted by Stub
A Black dog with a White throat patch up


Possible. It's not that Coyotes don't have that marking normally (throat patch) it's just that I haven't seen a melanistic one show a 'noticeable' one.


Conversely, black dogs very often DO have that marking.

IF its a dog....it is out very late at night and I've never seen this one before on my property or recognize as a neighbors dog. But you could be right. That is why I am here asking for opinions.


Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: Stub] #8430734 10/26/21 10:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,872
N
ntxtrapper Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
N
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,872
Originally Posted by Stub
A Black dog with a White throat patch up

^^^^^^


"Whosoever is delighted in solitude, is either a wild beast or a god."

- Aristotle
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: ntxtrapper] #8430783 10/26/21 11:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
F
flintknapper Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
F
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Stub
A Black dog with a White throat patch up

^^^^^^


Could be. Just trying to reconcile why it would be out at 1:30 a.m. WAY back in the woods (nearest house is mine and that's about 1.5 miles away.

No other dogs with it. Just very strange.

I have cameras out in several spots and have not seen this animal before (first time for everything I guess).

I DO have pics and videos of other dark Coyotes (some possibly Coydogs) from that same area in the past. Not trying to labor the point or force it one way or the other, just not leaning towards dog at this juncture. But appreciate your submission as well as the others.

As members give their responses, if you would, please elaborate 'why' you feel it is whatever you submitted.

Last edited by flintknapper; 10/26/21 11:36 PM.

Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430800 10/26/21 11:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 19,792
Creekrunner Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 19,792
No coyote. Black dog.


...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430801 10/26/21 11:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,267
S
Simple Searcher Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 10,267
Ears seem small for a coyote too



"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430817 10/27/21 12:28 AM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,872
N
ntxtrapper Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
N
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,872
Originally Posted by flintknapper
Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Stub
A Black dog with a White throat patch up

^^^^^^


Could be. Just trying to reconcile why it would be out at 1:30 a.m. WAY back in the woods (nearest house is mine and that's about 1.5 miles away.

No other dogs with it. Just very strange.

I have cameras out in several spots and have not seen this animal before (first time for everything I guess).

I DO have pics and videos of other dark Coyotes (some possibly Coydogs) from that same area in the past. Not trying to labor the point or force it one way or the other, just not leaning towards dog at this juncture. But appreciate your submission as well as the others.

As members give their responses, if you would, please elaborate 'why' you feel it is whatever you submitted.


It looks too bouncy to me. Dog's heads are typically more bouncy than coyotes when they trot. Coming into a call, coyotes can get real bouncy especially in ground cover, but your critter looked like it was just travelling to me. That was why I said dog. Watch this coyote's eyes and nose, very little up and down. I could be wrong but that was my take on it.



"Whosoever is delighted in solitude, is either a wild beast or a god."

- Aristotle
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: ntxtrapper] #8430971 10/27/21 04:13 AM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
F
flintknapper Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
F
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
I agree it is not displaying a 'normal' gait and that is part of what made me question its heritage.

There isn't enough 'Coyote' like features about it (appearance, gait, etc) for me to call it Coyote, but also not enough 'Dog' to convince me (yet).

We have really large Coyotes in Deep East Texas as compared to other parts of the State so 'size' doesn't sway me one way or the other.

And some Coyotes (just depends on what they are doing) will bounce along too....but they DO tend to keep the head fairly level.

Here is a large Yote in that same area.



And here a possible 'Coydog' but for certain NOT a dog. I had spotted this one several times in daylight running across my pasture. But has a larger/blockier head than your typical Coyote. Some would look at it and declare 'Dog' but it isn't. And we have all manner of dark coated yotes to further confuse things.



Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8430994 10/27/21 09:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,573
G
garyrapp55 Online Content
Veteran Tracker
Online Content
Veteran Tracker
G
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,573
dog

Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: garyrapp55] #8430995 10/27/21 09:17 AM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
F
flintknapper Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
F
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,332
Originally Posted by garyrapp55
dog



And this one?

[Linked Image]


Spartans ask not...how many, but where!
Re: What is this.......Bui [Re: flintknapper] #8431003 10/27/21 10:03 AM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,040
D
Dodge_Rock Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
D
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,040
Could be either. We've got some long-legged yotes near here so it's possible, but looks more like a dog. Dogs that like to roam can cover several miles in a night, no problem. i usually catch more than one dog at a time on camera & I know they are miles from neighbors. Mild mannered by day, pack hunters by night.

These look nothing like the dog/yote in your video, just saying don't be surprised to see dogs miles from nowhere in the middle of the night.

[Linked Image]

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3