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DITCH DILEMMA #8426635 10/22/21 04:46 PM
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I have a wash below my blind that I need to be able to drive across. it is less than 3ft across but has gotten pretty steep on the sides. I was thinking about dropping 6 bags of concrete to create a bridge but would be open to any other suggestions. I would be driving my truck over it.


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Shovel to smooth the edges down to make a ramp and might also then put in concrete to make a pad or flat beams to cross on. I would not make a dam of any sort as it will cause the wash to widen as it goes around the concrete. I have also put in larger rocks or rip rap that will allow the water to flow thru them and I can still drive over them. They will still wash out though if there is enough rain.


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Sounds like a good reason to get a bigger truck!

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Do what you can to build it up just a bit without impeding water flow too much. Then always cross at an angle (if there is room) so you aren't trying to climb a stair-step with both front tires at the same time.

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The correct answer is to do it right the first time. Drop a 10 foot piece of culvert in to allow drainage, and level with dirt up to the top and cover it. Lay a couple planks across it and never worry about it again

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Originally Posted by Blank
The correct answer is to do it right the first time. Drop a 10 foot piece of culvert in to allow drainage, and level with dirt up to the top and cover it. Lay a couple planks across it and never worry about it again

That is if the correct size culvert is used the first time. It would need to be large enough to handle all the drainage flow it gets...if not it will make a worse mess. Been there and done that.


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I had the same problem at a couple of crossings. What finally worked was to make a wall of concrete bags (40#, since the 80’s were whupping me) on the upstream and downstream sides of the crossing. Then I filled in between the walls with gravel. That was a couple of years and floods ago, and they’ve held up very well.


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Originally Posted by 603Country
I had the same problem at a couple of crossings. What finally worked was to make a wall of concrete bags (40#, since the 80’s were whupping me) on the upstream and downstream sides of the crossing. Then I filled in between the walls with gravel. That was a couple of years and floods ago, and they’ve held up very well.

sounds like a plan


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Originally Posted by 603Country
I had the same problem at a couple of crossings. What finally worked was to make a wall of concrete bags (40#, since the 80’s were whupping me) on the upstream and downstream sides of the crossing. Then I filled in between the walls with gravel. That was a couple of years and floods ago, and they’ve held up very well.

This is the correct way and have done it in many places on the ranch, except I used big rocks up and down stream and oversized base rock in between. Many years ago I tried the culvert route and all they did was eventually fill with dirt and wash out.


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thanks guys.


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In Nicaragua, a crossing used logs thrown in the crossing area and covered with dirt. Don't think it would survive heavy rain, but for a temporary solution it worked.


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Originally Posted by Stompy
[quote=603Country]I had the same problem at a couple of crossings. What finally worked was to make a wall of concrete bags (40#, since the 80’s were whupping me) on the upstream and downstream sides of the crossing. Then I filled in between the walls with gravel. That was a couple of years and floods ago, and they’ve held up very well.

This is the correct way and have done it in many places on the ranch, except I used big rocks up and down stream and oversized base rock in between. Many years ago I tried the culvert route and all they did was eventually fill with dirt and wash out.[/quote
yep, went through that, the low water crossing is the best bet


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if it is only 3ft wide lay some cross ties across it.


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Dump a load of fist sized rocks, and as you drive over them they will eventually pack down.

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Originally Posted by Son of a Blitch
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Ok now I have to re-due everything!



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Is this a natural wash out or one dug by the landowner to divert runoff? If the latter I would get a piece of culvert and cover it so that I did not mess up his runoff diversion. If this is a natural ditch created by runoff, eventually the water will find a way through what ever you come up with. Best to create a system that allows the water to pass.


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A picture of the crossing and what is up and downstream of it would be most helpful.

Depending on the soil and other conditions....would dictate what is most practical for you to do about it.


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Thanks for all the input. I used the cement bags. Seems to be working fine and center is low enough to allow flow. I may follow up with rock when I have the time.


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Originally Posted by 603Country
I had the same problem at a couple of crossings. What finally worked was to make a wall of concrete bags (40#, since the 80’s were whupping me) on the upstream and downstream sides of the crossing. Then I filled in between the walls with gravel. That was a couple of years and floods ago, and they’ve held up very well.



Are you saying to just put the bags of concrete into the creek? bag and all?

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Originally Posted by 603Country
I had the same problem at a couple of crossings. What finally worked was to make a wall of concrete bags (40#, since the 80’s were whupping me) on the upstream and downstream sides of the crossing. Then I filled in between the walls with gravel. That was a couple of years and floods ago, and they’ve held up very well.



Are you saying to just put the bags of concrete into the creek? bag and all?

Yes, you place the bags of concrete into the creek while still in the bag.


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As for what I did, after trying a culvert (which didn’t work out), I decided to take a low water crossing approach. I bought bags of Sackcrete and built a wall about 3 bags tall at the downstream end of the crossing. Then I built a similar wall on the upstream side. Then I filled the area between the bag walls with gravel (which I had acquired from a swap with a neighbor). I have three crossings, and this approach worked great. Two of the crossings are what you might call ‘slow water’ type, since there isn’t high flow fast water through there. The other crossing carries a tremendous amount of fast moving water at times. I had to modify that crossing by adding more bags to the downstream wall, which kept the fast water from relocating the gravel. Be advised though, that water will seek the weak points, and I had to add bags to the fast flow downstream wall at several places where water had cut through where there had been no bags.

The crossings have remained in place for a couple of years and have not needed any work done. Dirt has covered the gravel now.

I was originally worried that the bags of dry Sackcrete might tear up before the next rain, but that didn’t happen. The bags got wet and hardened into concrete very quickly.

I started with 80# bags, but quickly went to 40# bags.


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