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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:42 PM
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He both apologized and resigned. So even Gruden disagrees with many of you.
These threads are very enlightening. Lol, do you think he meant it? I'm still waiting for the big bombshell comment he made that got him fired.... He. Wasn’t. Fired. Come on are we going to play word games here. Forced out.... that better for you? There is a huge difference between resigning and being fired. One being that it’s an admission of responsibility and a waiver of major legal rights. I’m sorry the distinction is lost on you.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:43 PM
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He also said all this:
“We have this notion that somehow if you’re poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”
In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”
In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
Oh wait a minute, that was Biden. He can say whatever he wants....
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:48 PM
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NP nobody here is arguing about the legal distinction, or ramifications...... stop chasing your tail.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 03:50 PM
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This fool NP acts like people aren’t forced to resign whether they think they are in the wrong or not. It’s happened in every industry I’ve ever been in. I bet I’ve seen It 10 times and I’m only 36. What world does NP live in?
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 04:36 PM
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Im sure the conversation went. “we will let you resign before we fire you”.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 04:40 PM
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Im sure the conversation went. “we will let you resign before we fire you”. Exactly.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 04:54 PM
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Never though I would feel sorry for Chuckie.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 04:56 PM
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Im sure the conversation went. “we will let you resign before we fire you”. I think it went like this if you resign you get $$$$$$$ if we terminate y out will get $$$.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 05:10 PM
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Im sure the conversation went. “we will let you resign before we fire you”. I think it went like this if you resign you get $$$$$$$ if we terminate y out will get $$$. ^^^ Yep
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 07:21 PM
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 07:23 PM
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 07:25 PM
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Im sure the conversation went. “we will let you resign before we fire you”. I think it went like this if you resign you get $$$$$$$ if we terminate y out will get $$$. ^^^ Yep X3
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 07:54 PM
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The Cancel Culture mob turns a blind eye to sexual assault, but heaven help the coach who uses locker room language in an email.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 07:55 PM
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NFL teams will immediately remove you for 10 year old emails. But beat the sh.t out of a woman, no problem.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 07:56 PM
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There’s an article now on espn under the “undefeated” section, which to me is completely racist section, that’s calling for all of gruden’s “enablers” to be pushed out also.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 08:16 PM
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I did notice Grudens sin is the strength coach. Is scheduled to remain on staff.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 08:59 PM
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There’s an article now on espn under the “undefeated” section, which to me is completely racist section, that’s calling for all of gruden’s “enablers” to be pushed out also. This is funny. Most of those emails were written when Gruden was an ESPN employee. That makes themselves a PRIMARY enabler. Can they really claim that no one working at ESPN knew his views on these topics?
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 09:57 PM
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 10:18 PM
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Unless you’re serial rapist Deshaun Watson.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/12/21 11:58 PM
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The league and the media will demonize Gruden but they will cheer the halftime rapper with a rap sheet a mile long
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/13/21 12:13 AM
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The league and the media will demonize Gruden but they will cheer the halftime rapper with a rap sheet a mile long This here.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/13/21 02:43 AM
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The NFL, NBA, MLB have ultimate power. Ask Donald Sterling, he was forced that sell his NBA team. Billionaire or not.
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/13/21 02:53 AM
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The NFL, NBA, MLB have ultimate power. Ask Donald Sterling, he was forced that sell his NBA team. Billionaire or not. I didn't think he said anything racist either if I'm remembering correctly....
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/13/21 02:59 AM
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The NFL, NBA, MLB have ultimate power. Ask Donald Sterling, he was forced that sell his NBA team. Billionaire or not. I didn't think he said anything racist either if I'm remembering correctly.... I remember. “ The lawsuit featured several racist statements allegedly made by Sterling to employees, such as that "black people smell and attract vermin" and "Mexicans that just sit around and smoke and drink all day", as well as Sterling's alleged intent to rent only to Korean tenants because "they will pay the rent and live in ...” TMZ first reported that Sterling accosted his girlfriend for "broadcast[ing]" that she was, "associating with black people." Per TMZ, Sterling allegedly said, "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that...and not to bring them to my games."
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Re: Chuckie (Gruden) is out with Raiders
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10/13/21 03:17 AM
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Someone made the comment that Jerry Jones don’t work for anyone. I say that he does as has to answer to the NFL. Different from owner of a furniture store.
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