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Prediction - New World Record? #8381289 09/10/21 09:57 PM
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This year has been unusually cool and consistently received steady rainfall through the spring and most of the summer in South Texas.

Plenty of water and great range conditions are widespread.

There are so many ranches that have been doing really exceptional management through some tough years.

So, I'll go out on a limb and predict there is potential for a new record whitetail to come out of South Texas this year.

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To me records now mean squat. Too much crap going on legal or otherwise.

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It’s possible for sure. Don’t rule out Oklahoma or Kansas either. Texas should be a great year for sure.


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I think a world record typical might be doable in south Texas. A world record non-typical might be a stretch though.

That typical on TLK's old lease would be a challenger for the typical record this year if he stayed a clean 12 this year and added just a few more inches. That deer was almost a clone of the Hanson buck last year. I can only imagine what he might look like this year if he improved any.

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Too many folks fiddling with selective deer breeding to make records mean much any more.

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Originally Posted by Adchunts
Too many folks fiddling with selective deer breeding to make records mean much any more.



Not on true LF ranches - I will know about the one I posted from last season so if and when I hear about him trust me I will post it here - truthfully he probably should have been shot last year - he was 200 plus typical - stay tuned


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There is so much protein feeding and food plots anymore that a record buck is indeed possible.


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Re: Prediction - New World Record? [Re: don k] #8381566 09/11/21 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by don k
To me records now mean squat. Too much crap going on legal or otherwise.


I’m with you, same with sports. Too many ways to cheat

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Originally Posted by Adchunts
Too many folks fiddling with selective deer breeding to make records mean much any more.


Yep


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Re: Prediction - New World Record? [Re: jeffbird] #8381796 09/11/21 01:48 PM
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If it does not happen this year....then it will happen very soon. To many people are managing deer now all over the US for it not to happen. They are allowing the right bucks to age and reach their genetic potential. What helps is that there are some pockets around Texas that have good clean typical genetics. The rainfall this year was tremendous in some areas all over the state. It is going to take the perfect scenario for it to happen though...right deer born from the right genetics...born in the right year...the right age....the right rainfall/habitat post rut to end of antler growth. With lot of ranches feeding post rut, that allows bucks to recoop quickly. Throw in very timely rains and above average rains in the month of March and anything can happen. There were 2 typical bucks killed last year in South Texas that netted right over 190. Last year showed the potential of what can happen in South Texas. I also think there will be some tremendous bucks taken in areas not known for having those type of bucks killed.


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I like that the possibility for a new world record is possible. I find it odd that if it happens, it really doesn't matter anymore. I wonder if it's because everything is out there on the internet now and not limited to what magazine you subscribed to? or if it's because so many people have been caught lying and cheating to get into the record books? or if the world is in such bad shape right now that we're just too stressed out trying to make sure we're not affected too badly by the next bad decision to come out of DC?

If it happens, I look forward to seeing pictures and reading the story. But I somehow doubt that it will make headlines or be as exciting as it was a decade ago.

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Jeff you see something while out chasing jaguarundi’s?


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Bobo,

no specific animal, but seeing exceptional range conditions. All animals are looking healthy including lots of big deer.

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Originally Posted by jeffbird
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no specific animal, but seeing exceptional range conditions. All animals are looking healthy including lots of big deer.


It should be a hell of a year. cheers


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What makes a person think it will come from Texas?

Most likely will come from the Midwest or Canada


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Originally Posted by Biscuit
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To me records now mean squat. Too much crap going on legal or otherwise.


I’m with you, same with sports. Too many ways to cheat



So supplemental feed and food plots are cheating?


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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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To me records now mean squat. Too much crap going on legal or otherwise.


I’m with you, same with sports. Too many ways to cheat



So supplemental feed and food plots are cheating?

No but look around you. Folks are breeding deer to look like they think or want a deer to look like. Folks are bringing deer to areas that never had deer of that caliber before. Folks are penning deer and feeding 24-7-365 then releasing them to be hunted. You call that management and supplemental feeding? I don't.

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Originally Posted by don k
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To me records now mean squat. Too much crap going on legal or otherwise.


I’m with you, same with sports. Too many ways to cheat



So supplemental feed and food plots are cheating?

No but look around you. Folks are breeding deer to look like they think or want a deer to look like. Folks are bringing deer to areas that never had deer of that caliber before. Folks are penning deer and feeding 24-7-365 then releasing them to be hunted. You call that management and supplemental feeding? I don't.


Wait a second........correct me if I am wrong but dont you raise exotics of some kind? Ibex??? Pretty sure Ibex aint exactly native to Texas.

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JCB - drop the mike!

don k - of course there are folks breeding deer and releasing them - but there are plenty of LF ranches that introduce no genetics and still have awesome deer - I know first hand


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Originally Posted by don k
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To me records now mean squat. Too much crap going on legal or otherwise.


I’m with you, same with sports. Too many ways to cheat



So supplemental feed and food plots are cheating?

No but look around you. Folks are breeding deer to look like they think or want a deer to look like. Folks are bringing deer to areas that never had deer of that caliber before. Folks are penning deer and feeding 24-7-365 then releasing them to be hunted. You call that management and supplemental feeding? I don't.


Don,

my comments related to native deer, not artificially breed put and take operations.

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It is apples to oranges comparing our native whitetail to that of an exotic that is already in an unnatural environment.
The basis of the rules of those that want to make standards on scoring whitetail deer is trying to establish as natural an environment as possible. You cannot possibly compare them to exotics.


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If I shot a wr typical I dont know if I would want anybody to know about it. There will be so many people making accusations, flat out lies, and demanding information from the hunter and ranch that is none of their damn business. Just because I shot a huge buck, doesnt mean I owe any of those people a flipping thing much less an explanation or info about the ranch......but if one comes from south Texas, you can just imagine what would happen and be said around the country.

I did see the skull of a monster 10 point that was killed last year in Maverick county that netted 190", truly a beautiful buck. I had a typical that was a 7x7 and netted 175" hanging next to him and they simply where not the same class of animal.

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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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To me records now mean squat. Too much crap going on legal or otherwise.


I’m with you, same with sports. Too many ways to cheat



So supplemental feed and food plots are cheating?


People are releasing raised deer into the wild and not talking about it. I know of 2 people that have done it in the last 3 years so I’m with the others, record books are garbage anymore but I’ll still smoke a 200”r if it walks by but not tell a soul about it. Anyone talking about killing a giant on low fenced property is either an idiot or simply a fame seeker.

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I’m with you, same with sports. Too many ways to cheat [/quote]


So supplemental feed and food plots are cheating?[/quote]
No but look around you. Folks are breeding deer to look like they think or want a deer to look like. Folks are bringing deer to areas that never had deer of that caliber before. Folks are penning deer and feeding 24-7-365 then releasing them to be hunted. You call that management and supplemental feeding? I don't.[/quote]

Don,

my comments related to native deer, not artificially breed put and take operations.
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But how do you really know if it was not an artificially breed deer? You don't.

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