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Re: Overkill Caliber for TX Whitetail Deer [Re: DQ Kid] #8380423 09/10/21 02:06 AM
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I am not short and I really trust my Kimber 300 WM. Like a lot. A whole lot.

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Originally Posted by Hudbone
I am not short and I really trust my Kimber 300 WM. Like a lot. A whole lot.


There are exceptions to all rules HUD. You’re Too Tall Jones arse is this exception roflmao

Long story short you missed a poll I did a few years ago on height and caliber size. It was very scientific and proved short people preferred much larger higher case capacity Cartridges compared to their taller counter parts.



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I shot a white tail with a 458 Win mag at 15 yards. Needless to say it dropped in it's tracks.
It had a lot less meat damage that the various 6.5s I have used.

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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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I am not short and I really trust my Kimber 300 WM. Like a lot. A whole lot.


There are exceptions to all rules HUD. You’re Too Tall Jones arse is this exception roflmao

Long story short you missed a poll I did a few years ago on height and caliber size. It was very scientific and proved short people preferred much larger higher case capacity Cartridges compared to their taller counter parts.




Hud, Kohler said you were shorter than he is.......

Bobo, short dudes like jacked up trucks too.

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Originally Posted by MClark
I shot a white tail with a 458 Win mag at 15 yards. Needless to say it dropped in it's tracks.
It had a lot less meat damage that the various 6.5s I have used.


You must be using the wrong bullets in your 6.5's then, or you hit 'em in the wrong place maybe?

Re: Overkill Caliber for TX Whitetail Deer [Re: DQ Kid] #8380496 09/10/21 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
I'll start off by saying .300 Win Mag followed by 7MM Rem Mag., what say you??

Funny that you started with the same two calibers that a tracking guy said was the calibers that he tracked more than any others.
He said that it was not a shooter problem but a "too big for whitetail" problem." He claimed that the calibers were so powerful that they would go clear through a deer and most of the energy from the bullet was not expelled into the animal, but was wasted as it passed through.
I heard a similar statement on the History Channel where an ex-sniper claimed that a 300 mag was more deadly at 300 yards than up close as more energy was put into the target rather than pass through.
Don't shoot the messenger here, I am just repeating what I heard. Is there anything to this?


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Originally Posted by Simple Searcher
Originally Posted by DQ Kid
I'll start off by saying .300 Win Mag followed by 7MM Rem Mag., what say you??

Funny that you started with the same two calibers that a tracking guy said was the calibers that he tracked more than any others.
He said that it was not a shooter problem but a "too big for whitetail" problem." He claimed that the calibers were so powerful that they would go clear through a deer and most of the energy from the bullet was not expelled into the animal, but was wasted as it passed through.
I heard a similar statement on the History Channel where an ex-sniper claimed that a 300 mag was more deadly at 300 yards than up close as more energy was put into the target rather than pass through.
Don't shoot the messenger here, I am just repeating what I heard. Is there anything to this?

I don’t buy into that logic at all. I think bullet design has a lot more to do with that than anything.


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I'll start off by saying .300 Win Mag followed by 7MM Rem Mag., what say you??

Funny that you started with the same two calibers that a tracking guy said was the calibers that he tracked more than any others.
He said that it was not a shooter problem but a "too big for whitetail" problem." He claimed that the calibers were so powerful that they would go clear through a deer and most of the energy from the bullet was not expelled into the animal, but was wasted as it passed through.
I heard a similar statement on the History Channel where an ex-sniper claimed that a 300 mag was more deadly at 300 yards than up close as more energy was put into the target rather than pass through.
Don't shoot the messenger here, I am just repeating what I heard. Is there anything to this?

I don’t buy into that logic at all. I think bullet design has a lot more to do with that than anything.

No doubt


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300 win mag works best for me

Re: Overkill Caliber for TX Whitetail Deer [Re: DQ Kid] #8380533 09/10/21 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
I'll start off by saying .300 Win Mag followed by 7MM Rem Mag., what say you??



Anything bigger than a 30-06 in Texas is overkill, period.

Re: Overkill Caliber for TX Whitetail Deer [Re: HWY_MAN] #8380536 09/10/21 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by HWY_MAN
When I was a kid we hunted down on the Pecos outside of Pandale, rough country. Pop worked with all those guys out on the base and all damn good folks. I can't remember what all everybody was carrying, I had the 06 and off course Pop had the old 300 Weatherby. He caught a lot of chit from the other guys for carrying the Weatherby but by the third year there was 3 more men carrying Weatherby's, two 300's and a 257. You could always tell when Pop pulled the trigger, that Weatherby barking up a canyon had it's own distinct sound. That's where I shot my first 257 Weatherby, a man named Bob Ross bought it. There wasn't any blinds or feeding back then, you had to hump canyons all day and most of the shot's were long and most were running. Some of the hardest to country to hunt I've ever experienced but I loved it down there, the old Pecos run crystal clear through that area and we had about a two mile stretch of it. Most everybody was carrying 270's and 06's back then. Hell the 270 was joked about for being a ladies gun, Pop had one and we always called it Mom's gun although I think it originally was my Grand Dad's. Got me thinking. In all the years I hunted with POP and all the places and folks we hunted with the one caliber I never remember anybody hunting with was the 30-30. Off hand I only remember 3 times that I've seen a 30-30 in camp and the most recent was the one Pink used for the THF Ladies hunt and she put a nice 10 point down at 150-165 yards with that rifle. While I prefer Magnum calibers I have to admit Mrs. B sure didn't have any problems filling the freezer with her little 7mm08 She took 4 hog's, 6-7 Whitetail bucks, one Bull elk and two Javalina's with that rifle. The only one that didn't go straight down was the elk and it only went about 20 or so yards. She used a 243 before that but one shot with the 7mm08 and the 243 never came out of the closet again.



Great story.

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im sticking by my comment killem where yhey stand or your gonna be looking big bucks die hard

Re: Overkill Caliber for TX Whitetail Deer [Re: DQ Kid] #8380555 09/10/21 05:03 AM
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Projectile construction designed for the speed it's going and the mass of game, is so much more important than caliber, I don't even give it much consideration anymore.

Re: Overkill Caliber for TX Whitetail Deer [Re: Jgraider] #8380595 09/10/21 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jgraider
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I am not short and I really trust my Kimber 300 WM. Like a lot. A whole lot.


There are exceptions to all rules HUD. You’re Too Tall Jones arse is this exception roflmao

Long story short you missed a poll I did a few years ago on height and caliber size. It was very scientific and proved short people preferred much larger higher case capacity Cartridges compared to their taller counter parts.




Hud, Kohler said you were shorter than he is....... Bobo, short dudes like jacked up trucks too.


That would make me a midget.

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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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The .270 win is one of the greatest cartridges ever created


I'm not going so far as saying it's the greatest but I'd put it in the top 2. As much as I like the Weatherby's I'd probably have to give the number one seat to the Rem 7-Mag that caliber carries a broad brush.


.300 win mag is the greatest.

A 7mm Remington is what guys from Houston shoot


All you short guys and your super magnums roflmao

I’d put 30-06 over 300wm even thought I hate that cartridge the most.

281 comment was pretty funny though

cheers

Interesting BOBO.
I'd like to hear why you put 30-06 above 300wm


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Re: Overkill Caliber for TX Whitetail Deer [Re: BOBO the Clown] #8380712 09/10/21 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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The .270 win is one of the greatest cartridges ever created


I'm not going so far as saying it's the greatest but I'd put it in the top 2. As much as I like the Weatherby's I'd probably have to give the number one seat to the Rem 7-Mag that caliber carries a broad brush.


.300 win mag is the greatest.

A 7mm Remington is what guys from Houston shoot


All you short guys and your super magnums roflmao

I’d put 30-06 over 300wm even thought I hate that cartridge the most.

281 comment was pretty funny though

cheers



no way is a .30-06 better than a .300. Even though a .30-06 is a great cartridge.


Thats like saying a 3/4 ton gas truck is better than a 3/4 ton turbo diesel.....your just arguing for the sake of argument.



I like my .300 but I don't deer hunt with it. I may this year because I just like the rifle its chambered in and the scope, but then again I may not.


you wanna really start an argument lets talk about fixed blades vs. mechanical broadheads.....


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Interesting BOBO.
I'd like to hear why you put 30-06 above 300wm



30-06 just has a more universal following, I’m not saying it’s better it’s just more universally used thus making it greater. Plus it has almost a 60 year head start on killing.

It’s just case capacity at the end of the day.

So is the 300 Norma, 300 RUM or 30 Nosler greater then 300 Wm, even though they have ballistic and bullet choice advantages

No the 300 WM has a greater following/ownership then then those three combined.

One could agrue that the 300 PRC is greater also due to the ability to use more bullet weights and seating depth. So I just go popularity and use.

I hate the 30-06 it’s a dull boring artifact but 115 years of killing badgers to brown bears can’t be ignored


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you wanna really start an argument lets talk about fixed blades vs. mechanical broadheads.....



That’s easy..

Can you tune your bow?

No-> mechanical(WT- 1.5+ diameter, Elk/mule-<1.5”)

Yes-> Whitetails or western game?

Whitetails-> larger cutting diameter-> mechanical
Elk/mule-> two holes-> fixed


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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you wanna really start an argument lets talk about fixed blades vs. mechanical broadheads.....



That’s easy..

Can you tune your bow?

No-> mechanical(WT- 1.5+ diameter, Elk/mule-<1.5”)

Yes-> Whitetails or western game?

Whitetails-> larger cutting diameter-> mechanical
Elk/mule-> two holes-> fixed


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you wanna really start an argument lets talk about fixed blades vs. mechanical broadheads.....



That’s easy..

Can you tune your bow?

No-> mechanical(WT- 1.5+ diameter, Elk/mule-<1.5”)

Yes-> Whitetails or western game?

Whitetails-> larger cutting diameter-> mechanical
Elk/mule-> two holes-> fixed


Fixed blades never fail to open.
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even if a mechanical doesent open it still leaves a better blood trail than a fixed blade


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even if a mechanical doesent open it still leaves a better blood trail than a fixed blade


eek2

How could this be when all it would do is poke a hole through without cutting?


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you wanna really start an argument lets talk about fixed blades vs. mechanical broadheads.....



That’s easy..

Can you tune your bow?

No-> mechanical(WT- 1.5+ diameter, Elk/mule-<1.5”)

Yes-> Whitetails or western game?

Whitetails-> larger cutting diameter-> mechanical
Elk/mule-> two holes-> fixed


Fixed blades never fail to open.
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But can break or fall apart upon entry, and can be finicky tuning and with wind. Also some of the best fixed heads are a pain to sharpen

List of great broadheads is shrinking with all the company buy outs and offshoring

I use both. I think their are some really good mechanicals/hybrids and bad ones, just like fixed.

Mechanical good-
Ulmer edge/serv
Evolution Hyde
Etc

Fixed-
Iron will
Cut throat
Grim micro hades
Etc

End of the day if you can’t tune your bow to shot fixed efficiently then you are better off with mechanicals.

I think with Whitetails a bigger hole is better IMO due to their ground cover speed after shot compared to mule/elk/pronghorn. IMO and experience of course


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One thing about the '06 - If you're on the other side of the world, and the airline has lost your luggage with your ammo in it, and you have your rifle - you stand a better chance finding '06 cartridges than almost any other (except 7.62X39 grin ).

And I'll buy a round or two to watch you pointed stick guys argue in person. 'Course, I might fall asleep after the 2nd. sleep2 bolt


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No such thing as overkill dead is dead 😉

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One thing about the '06 - If you're on the other side of the world, and the airline has lost your luggage with your ammo in it, and you have your rifle - you stand a better chance finding '06 cartridges than almost any other (except 7.62X39 grin ).

And I'll buy a round or two to watch you pointed stick guys argue in person. 'Course, I might fall asleep after the 2nd. sleep2 bolt



I’ll show you in a couple months....a 3 blade rage or wasp jackhammer thru the lungs creates as much internal damage as any bullet. It’s incredible



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