texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
opencoffeenav, lazyeye, Hulvamon, HAAJr, WWeatherford21
68786 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 108,604
stxranchman 58,230
SnakeWrangler 57,492
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Gravytrain 43,633
BMD 41,222
Big Orn 37,484
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics609,641
Posts11,409,491
Members83,786
Most Online19,184
Feb 5th, 2020
Print Thread
Throw and Go seeds - no till #8367691 08/29/21 04:01 PM
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 33,023
B
Brother in-law Online Content OP
THF Celebrity
OP Online Content
THF Celebrity
B
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 33,023
Are there any of these worthy no tills ?


Is there any one plant such as wheat or oats that works better over all?

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8367775 08/29/21 05:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,028
Txhunter65 Online Content
Veteran Tracker
Online Content
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,028
Not sure I'd buy into any "throw and grow", unless your throw is a no till drill. As far as oats or wheat I'd go oats every time.

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8367803 08/29/21 05:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 29,207
kmon1 Online Shocked
junior
Online Shocked
junior
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 29,207
They all need dirt contact to work, a rake and work gets that, sun hitting the location does as well. Ryegrass is the easiest to get going but deer seem to prefer oats, wheat and rye (the actual grain grasses) to the easier growing ryegrass. The other seeds in those mixes have not grown well for me except in a few cases the clover but it gets eaten quickly.

The Brassicas can do well if the turkey let them. Had a great looking plot going and the Turkey mowed it down.


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8367829 08/29/21 06:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,586
D
DLALLDER Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
D
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,586
Most "THROW & GO" seeds will go, straight down a birds throat. I put a 100 lbs of oats out several years ago without doing any till work. About 2 days later I could not find a seed.





Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8367836 08/29/21 06:20 PM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 29,207
kmon1 Online Shocked
junior
Online Shocked
junior
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 29,207
They all need dirt contact to work, a rake and work gets that, sun hitting the location does as well. Ryegrass is the easiest to get going but deer seem to prefer oats, wheat and rye (the actual grain grasses) to the easier growing ryegrass. The other seeds in those mixes have not grown well for me except in a few cases the clover but it gets eaten quickly.

The Brassicas can do well if the turkey let them. Had a great looking plot going and the Turkey mowed it down.

If yu can shred grass over it then it can work ok as well.


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: DLALLDER] #8367913 08/29/21 07:31 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,335
oldoak2000 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,335
Originally Posted by DLALLDER
Most "THROW & GO" seeds will go, straight down a birds throat. I put a 100 lbs of oats out several years ago without doing any till work. About 2 days later I could not find a seed.

I'll 2nd that - put out 100# of oats over a half-acre without dirt-work - I might as well have just thrown it away; If I had planted 1 cup of it with a hand-rake it would have done better than the 100# !
For me I think the sun just baked the seed into dust, or ants/bugs feasted on it.

Rye-grass seed on that other hand does great just throwing on top, but deer never touched it here.

This year gonna at least try scratching in a 40# bag of whole oats using my tractor&box-blade rippers, followed up with a chain-link drag.

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8367952 08/29/21 08:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 18,664
Sniper John Offline
gumshoe
Offline
gumshoe
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 18,664
I have great luck with it for very small plots and will sometimes add any of whole oats, wheat, turnip, forage radish, and rye grass with it. The Rye grass mostly because it comes up quick so more for a cover crop while the rest get's established. But I only throw it out if it is immediately before a rain. Like storm clouds on the horizon or even throwing it out while it is raining. Otherwise like others have posted, it will all go to the birds and red ants. Often too I will come back after it has started coming up good and throw the cheapest or leftover fertilizer I have. And only if there is a good chance of rain in the forecast.

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8367954 08/29/21 08:36 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 207
F
fishbait Offline
Woodsman
Offline
Woodsman
F
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 207
years ago, i used to take a wooden crate and added bolts..I drug this around with a lawn mower with cinder blocks for weights ...this tilled it up with no problem ...just took many times to get below the grass..so I mowed the grass real low. I would suggest instead of oats ...I planted as layer of pinto beans and corn..the pintos after 6 inches tall deer ate them up like candy...the corn came up slowly but deer love to chew on corn stalks...works great...especially in a pen. When I planted oats in a pen ..deer only ate them after the first freeze...so I don't use oats. I now just rely on corn. Now very expensive these days. If I had a couple of acres in a pen I would plant soy beans..I have no experience with this but I think it would be great. Just for grins. My guess is that the deer would destroy the beans unless you could keep them out until the stalks get a couple of feet high. If we have a big acorn crop we will have to find something to compete with acorns.

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8368006 08/29/21 09:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,997
T
TLew Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
T
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,997
I put triticale down last fall with no till/drill and it absolutely took. Conditions were soft dirt, 50% sun, and damp. I will say the one consideration is that it took later than I wanted it to which is where I think a till/drill would help.

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8368049 08/29/21 10:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 33,023
B
Brother in-law Online Content OP
THF Celebrity
OP Online Content
THF Celebrity
B
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 33,023
Are there any simple hand tools or drill attachment s that would be enough to get thr seeds down some?

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8368167 08/29/21 11:48 PM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 344
T
TexasPI Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
T
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 344
If you have an atv (or could even use pickup)...a drag harrow can get you there pretty easily. Use it with teeth down and forward first (most aggressive), then teeth down and facing the rear to smooth it out and then after seeding to work in seed. If planting small seed, flip the harrow over (teeth up) to smooth and work in seed so the seed doesn't get buried too deep. Will work way easier when their is a little moisture in the soil.

Available in a couple of sizes: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200641648_200641648

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8368437 08/30/21 03:08 AM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 58,230
S
stxranchman Online Content
Obie Juan Kenobi
Online Content
Obie Juan Kenobi
S
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 58,230
Read the label on the Throw and Grow products and you will see the highest % see will be Rye grass and maybe a few brassicas/clovers/etc. Ryegrass will grow anywhere if you get the rain. Birds and such will not bother it. If you can time rains right and plant oats/wheat/rye/turnips/clover on wet soil and get a rain the next day or so, you can be successful. I have done it with oats and ryegrass in the hill country using a road feeder, right before a rainy period. If you have livestock on the place then be aware they will camp on the plots all the time and probably wipe them out....if the deer don't. A 50# bag of Gulf Rye is not that expensive and can cover 2-5 acres depending on the rainfall and soil type.


[Linked Image]
Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8368438 08/30/21 03:08 AM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,335
oldoak2000 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,335
Originally Posted by Brother in-law
Are there any simple hand tools or drill attachment s that would be enough to get thr seeds down some?

A 4-tine cultivator rake, if soil isn't too hard.

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8368471 08/30/21 04:25 AM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,237
N
ntxtrapper Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
N
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,237
I keep a bucket of wheat/rye mix seed in my Ranger and anywhere the hogs root up the ground, I throw seed there and drag a rake over it. It germinates just fine thanks to my bacon powered rototillers.


"Whosoever is delighted in solitude, is either a wild beast or a god."

- Aristotle
Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8369214 08/30/21 08:37 PM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,987
C
Cochise Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
C
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,987
Originally Posted by Brother in-law
Are there any simple hand tools or drill attachment s that would be enough to get thr seeds down some?


Doesn't have to be deep - a nail drag like you'd use on a baseball field will work (add weight depending on soil type)...and then once you've broadcast your seed drag over it with some chainlink or similar to cover the seed. Both can easily be pulled with a truck - no special tools required.

We all tend to over complicate everything.

Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8370331 08/31/21 07:53 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,013
R
RTW Online Content
Pro Tracker
Online Content
Pro Tracker
R
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,013
+1 on throwing seed wherever hogs tear up the ground. Have been doing this for a few years and generally works great.

As others have said, generally not worth it using the "throw and grow" idea. Even with that bag of seed, you are better off just tilling or clearing the land for better seed to dirt contact.

You can also go straight to a coop or elevator and get seed a lot cheaper to plant. Sadly, most of the stuff in the stores is generally all about marketing and not results. Same for minerals and protein. You can go buy the raw stuff cheaper and just do it yourself.


I'm a Sheepdog!

Come hunting with us! Click the link below to learn more!
JGL Hunting
Re: Throw and Go seeds - no till [Re: Brother in-law] #8382573 09/12/21 03:36 AM
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 7
R
R&K Offline
Green Horn
Offline
Green Horn
R
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 7
I throw and mow and it works really well. Just need enough grass or weeds to make a good thatch that covers the seed.

Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2021 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3