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Re: Letting him walk🤷🏻‍♂️ [Re: BenBob] #8349908 08/13/21 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BenBob
Spreading his genes around is a misnomer in my books as a reason to not shoot a buck. Reading some studies on that and was surprised when the number of a dominant buck being very prolific if he breeds 7 does. Say he breeds 10 a year, that is still not a very high number, especially when you factor in all the reasons that could take him out in a year. The only thing I would wait on is to see what he looks like in the fall. I think then he will look much older and mature than he does now. Good luck on whatever you all decide.

BenBob, kind of the way I look at passing a buck to let him pass on genes. You said he maybe breeds 7 a year, Ive heard more like 3. Then you figure all dont survive so youre down to 2. Half those are female so youre down to ONE. I know thats just a bunch of numbers but its not far off in the real world of wild free ranging WT. Then consider the fairly recent studies that seem to have merit, that say you cannot tell much about what type antlers a buck will sire by looking at the Daddys rack. That one is controversial but its out there.
Lots of reasons to cull the bad ones, but to me, not too many reasons to pass the good ones.
If hes old enough and you like him, I say hunt him down.

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Re: Letting him walk🤷🏻‍♂️ [Re: freerange] #8349983 08/13/21 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by freerange
Originally Posted by BenBob
Spreading his genes around is a misnomer in my books as a reason to not shoot a buck. Reading some studies on that and was surprised when the number of a dominant buck being very prolific if he breeds 7 does. Say he breeds 10 a year, that is still not a very high number, especially when you factor in all the reasons that could take him out in a year. The only thing I would wait on is to see what he looks like in the fall. I think then he will look much older and mature than he does now. Good luck on whatever you all decide.

BenBob, kind of the way I look at passing a buck to let him pass on genes. You said he maybe breeds 7 a year, Ive heard more like 3. Then you figure all dont survive so youre down to 2. Half those are female so youre down to ONE. I know thats just a bunch of numbers but its not far off in the real world of wild free ranging WT. Then consider the fairly recent studies that seem to have merit, that say you cannot tell much about what type antlers a buck will sire by looking at the Daddys rack. That one is controversial but its out there.
Lots of reasons to cull the bad ones, but to me, not too many reasons to pass the good ones.
If hes old enough and you like him, I say hunt him down.



no reason not to take a mature buck if he has a rack you like.


Its not like this is his first year getting to breed. Multiple studies have shown that deer are most active in the boom boom room at 3 and 4 years old.


Its been a common theme as long as I've been around to let an exceptional buck walk at 6 or even 7 years old " to spread his genes" as if he is the only deer in the pasture.

If your managament program is tight enough letting 6 and 7 year old bucks walk in hopes they get bigger is perfectly fine, but on majority of places don't kid yourself in thinking this old deer is gonna be the don juan of the pasture. Most likely he is content to eating and not getting his arse kicked by other bucks


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Re: Letting him walk🤷🏻‍♂️ [Re: txtrophy85] #8350082 08/13/21 11:34 AM
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Spreading his genes around is a misnomer in my books as a reason to not shoot a buck. Reading some studies on that and was surprised when the number of a dominant buck being very prolific if he breeds 7 does. Say he breeds 10 a year, that is still not a very high number, especially when you factor in all the reasons that could take him out in a year. The only thing I would wait on is to see what he looks like in the fall. I think then he will look much older and mature than he does now. Good luck on whatever you all decide.

BenBob, kind of the way I look at passing a buck to let him pass on genes. You said he maybe breeds 7 a year, Ive heard more like 3. Then you figure all dont survive so youre down to 2. Half those are female so youre down to ONE. I know thats just a bunch of numbers but its not far off in the real world of wild free ranging WT. Then consider the fairly recent studies that seem to have merit, that say you cannot tell much about what type antlers a buck will sire by looking at the Daddys rack. That one is controversial but its out there.
Lots of reasons to cull the bad ones, but to me, not too many reasons to pass the good ones.
If hes old enough and you like him, I say hunt him down.



no reason not to take a mature buck if he has a rack you like.


Its not like this is his first year getting to breed. Multiple studies have shown that deer are most active in the boom boom room at 3 and 4 years old.


Its been a common theme as long as I've been around to let an exceptional buck walk at 6 or even 7 years old " to spread his genes" as if he is the only deer in the pasture.

If your managament program is tight enough letting 6 and 7 year old bucks walk in hopes they get bigger is perfectly fine, but on majority of places don't kid yourself in thinking this old deer is gonna be the don juan of the pasture. Most likely he is content to eating and not getting his arse kicked by other bucks

I agree with you all 100%

Now, if you are letting a buck have a pass from 5 to 6, 6 to 7, or even 7 to 8 to let him have a chance to get even bigger.....more power to you and good luck because you can't shoot a 170" when he is 160". lol


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Re: Letting him walk🤷🏻‍♂️ [Re: b weezy] #8367626 08/29/21 03:03 PM
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Well the lease owner still says he’s 4 so he gets a pass this season…. Hopefully he stays on our place…

Re: Letting him walk🤷🏻‍♂️ [Re: b weezy] #8368746 08/30/21 01:56 PM
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No way I'm seeing 4.5, especially in the last 2 pics.

I think I'd find another lease with another lease manager!! eek2


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Re: Letting him walk🤷🏻‍♂️ [Re: b weezy] #8368765 08/30/21 02:07 PM
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I dont see a 4 year old either.


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Re: Letting him walk🤷🏻‍♂️ [Re: b weezy] #8369199 08/30/21 08:21 PM
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Well the lease owner still says he’s 4 so he gets a pass this season…. Hopefully he stays on our place…


You're not going to have much success on this lease then. I'd shoot him this year at 6, maybe 7 years old and find another lease next year.


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