texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Texas Tactical Depo, Masav05, 19MAD81, Lifechaser, WILDWHIT
68796 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 108,608
stxranchman 58,235
SnakeWrangler 57,521
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Gravytrain 43,681
BMD 41,222
Big Orn 37,484
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics609,793
Posts11,412,207
Members83,796
Most Online19,184
Feb 5th, 2020
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? #8346184 08/09/21 07:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 334
T
texas wetlands Offline OP
Bird Dog
OP Offline
Bird Dog
T
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 334
Had a friend of mine tell me last week that he had heard that TP&W is considering or has voted to have a 39 day duck season for 2022-2023 season.

Has anyone else heard this? I understand there is some drought area's in the duck factory but I thought we were still above our long term average on total population. If this is true, who picks the dates and will it still be a six bird limit?

I tried a search for it but came up empty. Hopefully just a rumor.

Last edited by texas wetlands; 08/09/21 07:34 PM.
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8346200 08/09/21 07:44 PM
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
2
2flyfish4 Online Content
Tracker
Online Content
Tracker
2
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
Yep I've heard similar, it won't just be texas, all the US and Canada will likely see reduced seasons and limits.


Instagram - 2flyfish4
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8346210 08/09/21 07:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
S
Sinkey Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
S
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
Rumor................you'll see them drop limits before closing dates. I would not be opposed to them dropping limits.


[Linked Image][Linked Image]
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8346305 08/09/21 09:52 PM
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
2
2flyfish4 Online Content
Tracker
Online Content
Tracker
2
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
If the season is cut to 39 days we will have a 3 duck limit. With only 1 mallard hen
If the season is 60 days we will have a 6 duck limit, with 5 mallards only 1 mallard hen
If the season is 74 days we will have a 6 duck limit with 5 mallards only 2 mallard hens

These are the only 3 season options the feds gives us for the central flyway.

Last edited by 2flyfish4; 08/09/21 09:54 PM.

Instagram - 2flyfish4
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8346315 08/09/21 10:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 482
D
DUKFVR Online Content
Bird Dog
Online Content
Bird Dog
D
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 482
Lets roll with the 39 day. Drought up north, no official counts in 2 years. Won't surprise me one bit to see 39.

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8346486 08/10/21 01:11 AM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 15,177
D
ducknbass Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
D
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 15,177
I hope they do 39 days with 3 duck limit for 5 years.

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347062 08/10/21 04:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,337
J
john paul Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
J
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,337
Where are y’all hearing this information?


Originally Posted by garrett
I'm with GK because I like salty old dudes.
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347172 08/10/21 06:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 334
T
texas wetlands Offline OP
Bird Dog
OP Offline
Bird Dog
T
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 334
I heard it from a friend that guides in the El Campo area and he said he got the information from Parks and Wildlife. Now that doesn't mean that the Parks and Wildlife person is a 100% accurate. That's why I posted here to see if anyone else has any information. It could be just talk but I just read a Delta Waterfowl article that showed the drought map etc. which indicates lower numbers of breeding this year.

Sounds like some have heard the same talk going around.

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347175 08/10/21 06:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 334
T
texas wetlands Offline OP
Bird Dog
OP Offline
Bird Dog
T
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 334
Delta Waterfowl Article

Delta Waterfowl Forecasts a Reduced Fall Duck Flight - Delta Waterfowl

May have to google this the link isn't working.

Last edited by texas wetlands; 08/10/21 06:04 PM.
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347215 08/10/21 06:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
S
Sinkey Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
S
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
Originally Posted by texas wetlands
Delta Waterfowl Article

Delta Waterfowl Forecasts a Reduced Fall Duck Flight - Delta Waterfowl

May have to google this the link isn't working.


https://www.realtree.com/the-duck-blog/delta-waterfowl-forecasts-a-strong-fall-duck-flight

This is what DW said last year in September. Ended up being a horrible year all the way across the board. Especially in the Central and Mississippi flyways.

The whole 39 day season was also brought up by guys in 2012 and nothing ever came of it.


[Linked Image][Linked Image]
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347232 08/10/21 06:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 334
T
texas wetlands Offline OP
Bird Dog
OP Offline
Bird Dog
T
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 334
Same here. Our season was around 50-60% of what we normally end up with.

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347275 08/10/21 07:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 364
E
ElkOne Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
E
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 364
On the opposite side of the drought, there were virtually no birds shot in the breeding grounds last year. In normal year there are one heck of lot of birds taken before our seasons even open. On a yearly basis the migration vary's a bunch, from area to area.


ElkOne
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347326 08/10/21 08:12 PM
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 43
O
OTL91 Offline
Light Foot
Offline
Light Foot
O
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 43
Season won’t be shortened unless the feds mandate it. South Texas doesn’t have the rice it once had, North Texas doesn’t have the peanuts it once had, Oklahoma doesn’t have the millet program it once had, and Kansas and Nebraska doesn’t have the winters they once had. Therefore the migration patterns have changed. It’s not gonna get better anytime soon. Probably gonna get worse actually.

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: OTL91] #8347327 08/10/21 08:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
S
Sinkey Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
S
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
Originally Posted by OTL91
Season won’t be shortened unless the feds mandate it. South Texas doesn’t have the rice it once had, North Texas doesn’t have the peanuts it once had, Oklahoma doesn’t have the millet program it once had, and Kansas and Nebraska doesn’t have the winters they once had. Therefore the migration patterns have changed. It’s not gonna get better anytime soon. Probably gonna get worse actually.


THIS^^^^^


[Linked Image][Linked Image]
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347330 08/10/21 08:20 PM
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 397
G
goosebuster Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
G
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 397
That is interesting about the OK millet program, I remember hunting the Red River and seeing it. When North Central TX had all those peanuts, we sure shot more little Canada Geese down here and Mallards.

There was a pretty large pissin' match on another forum about this topic a few weeks ago.

Wonder what it would do to the waterfowl industry down here. Folks might lose interest in spending small/large fortunes on leases, hunts, gear for only a 39 day season.

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: OTL91] #8347338 08/10/21 08:27 PM
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
2
2flyfish4 Online Content
Tracker
Online Content
Tracker
2
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
Originally Posted by OTL91
Season won’t be shortened unless the feds mandate it. South Texas doesn’t have the rice it once had, North Texas doesn’t have the peanuts it once had, Oklahoma doesn’t have the millet program it once had, and Kansas and Nebraska doesn’t have the winters they once had. Therefore the migration patterns have changed. It’s not gonna get better anytime soon. Probably gonna get worse actually.


Thats the deal, the feds are mandating it bc of the drought in the breeding grounds and no counts the last 2 years. It has noting to do with poor duck season in texas and everything to do with the drought.

The feds look at 2 things pond counts on breeding grounds and mallard numbers.

If pond counts ans mallard numbers are down we get the restricted season of 39 days
If pond counts are up and mallards are down or vise versa we get the modified season of 60 days.
If pond counts and mallard counts are both up we get the liberal season of 74 days which we have had for a number of years now.

The problem is they haven't done the mallard counts in 2 years bc of covid. But they now for a fact due to the drought the pond counts are down.

Worse case scenario we get a 39 day season next year, best scenario we get 60 day season.

Last edited by 2flyfish4; 08/10/21 08:33 PM.

Instagram - 2flyfish4
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: goosebuster] #8347341 08/10/21 08:28 PM
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
2
2flyfish4 Online Content
Tracker
Online Content
Tracker
2
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
Originally Posted by goosebuster
That is interesting about the OK millet program, I remember hunting the Red River and seeing it. When North Central TX had all those peanuts, we sure shot more little Canada Geese down here and Mallards.

There was a pretty large pissin' match on another forum about this topic a few weeks ago.

Wonder what it would do to the waterfowl industry down here. Folks might lose interest in spending small/large fortunes on leases, hunts, gear for only a 39 day season.



Yep, leases will become more reasonable and you will probably see alot of duck rugs on the market in the next 2-3 years if we do not get alot of rain on the breeding grounds.


Instagram - 2flyfish4
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: 2flyfish4] #8347343 08/10/21 08:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 15,177
D
ducknbass Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
D
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 15,177
Originally Posted by 2flyfish4
Originally Posted by goosebuster
That is interesting about the OK millet program, I remember hunting the Red River and seeing it. When North Central TX had all those peanuts, we sure shot more little Canada Geese down here and Mallards.

There was a pretty large pissin' match on another forum about this topic a few weeks ago.

Wonder what it would do to the waterfowl industry down here. Folks might lose interest in spending small/large fortunes on leases, hunts, gear for only a 39 day season.



Yep, leases will become more reasonable and you will probably see alot of duck rugs on the market in the next 2-3 years if we do not get alot of rain on the breeding grounds.


That’s what I hope for. 10 years ago a friend said “I wish we’d go back to the points system or a 3 duck limit” I was like what? He was right it would push out a bunch

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347383 08/10/21 09:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
S
Sinkey Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
S
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
Problem with the point system is us Arkansas boys can’t count that well! roflmao


[Linked Image][Linked Image]
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347392 08/10/21 09:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 15,177
D
ducknbass Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
D
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 15,177
Take off your cousins shoes!

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347400 08/10/21 09:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
S
Sinkey Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
S
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 516
chicken


[Linked Image][Linked Image]
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8347608 08/11/21 01:09 AM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,834
G
Greekangler Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
G
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,834
Originally Posted by texas wetlands
Same here. Our season was around 50-60% of what we normally end up with.





Yes, on the screws for sure. Our numbers were down primarily because of my efforts/ lack of focus on concealment. Didn’t spend enough time brushing blinds because ofCovid. Lack of motivation. Ducks were definitely stale, but weather played major part in that. We’ve had days in past that we only saw 25 ducks or so, but managed to scratch out 2-3 limits on many of those hunts.


This fall and upcoming spring will be critical. There will be significantly reduced juvenile ducks to hunt this year for sure. If drought continues, especially this fall and spring, we will have a reduced season next year. Ramsey Russell addresses this subject often with biologists from DW and Du all the time. Last year, IMO was 100% weather and maybe little pressure in Canada, but mainly front related.

Weather can change things dramatically. Pond counts can go up and down 50-75% per year in breeding areas. 2011 was a very dry year, but limits were not reduced and the population didn’t really change. It’s all speculation at this point.


[Linked Image]
Take a kid Huntin
Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: Greekangler] #8354835 08/18/21 02:02 AM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,828
B
brazosboyt Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
B
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,828
Direct from the mouths of some muckity mucks that make and vote on the rules: If we have a repeat of this years harvest numbers and breeding ground counts, we WILL have a 3/39 season. The discussion now is how to split it up. My vote- first 7 days of nov. 7 days at Christmas break. Last 25 days of January.

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: brazosboyt] #8354855 08/18/21 02:19 AM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 350
J
js4242 Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
J
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 350
Originally Posted by brazosboyt
Direct from the mouths of some muckity mucks that make and vote on the rules: If we have a repeat of this years harvest numbers and breeding ground counts, we WILL have a 3/39 season. The discussion now is how to split it up. My vote- first 7 days of nov. 7 days at Christmas break. Last 25 days of January.


I could live without the Nov days and have 14 in Dec, but I could lose my mind if I had to wait until Dec.

Re: 39 Day Duck Season 2022-2023? [Re: texas wetlands] #8354871 08/18/21 02:38 AM
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
2
2flyfish4 Online Content
Tracker
Online Content
Tracker
2
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 536
How does early teal get dictated? Will there be no teal season or just a 9 day season with reduced bag limits?

Last edited by 2flyfish4; 08/18/21 02:45 AM.

Instagram - 2flyfish4
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2021 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3