I anneal to make expensive brass last a little longer. As to wether it improves precision enough to warrant the extra effort I follow the science.
The AMP folks say yes but on the other hand I remember Litz saying no difference but needed more research.
He did say he doesn’t but he probably gets free Lapua

Pretty much the same here. Longer brass life on hard to find and or expensive brass is the main reason.

Hey Smokey,
I'm gonna start annealing some brass with the drill/socket method also.
Approx. how long do you keep the brass in the torch flame to get good results?

6-8 seconds. If you aren't sure, get some stuff called Tempilaq. It's foolproof.

Raider gave good advice. Smaller calibers and thinner brass will take less time. In the shade or garage with the lights out, count while you watch for it to get a purplish blue glow, before it turns orange and it is done. Once you have the timing down you can blow through it. Like JGRAIDER advised, if you are hesitant about watching for color change, use tempilaq.

Edit to add: YouTube is your friend.

WOW...I guess retrospective I should've seen this is where the thread would go.

For the record...I LOVE to waste time to make rifles shoot better, it was kind of my thing. I'll even turn necks in some instances....(gasps heard around the state, I know)....for the record and to keep some from stroking out, I hate turning necks

Why is the brass I anneal barely changed in color but factory loaded mil spec rounds are almost grey at the neck?

Watched a YouTube video of some guy in Europe using a candle to anneal fired cases.

I had a run of federal 243 brass that started splitting necks the 2nd firing and was starting to loose enough that I wouldn't have enough same cases to load them non mixed head stamp anymore so I gave it a try with the candle. Ive put 3 more firings on those cases and haven't split another.

May be the amount of time those sit after annealing? Do you tumble after?

Some of you guys crack me up, if Natural Light is good for you that’s ok by me but I generally prefer a quality beer even though it turns to piss regardless of the brand afterwards If shooting a basketball sized group is ok by you at 300 yards then ok but some of us like a little tighter groups than others so if it’s your thing do it, if not then don’t. It’s not complicated at all but some of you try to make it that way..

I’ll continue to waste my time I guess drinking Stella Artois and pissing a lot

I find most beers have an appropriate occasion and so does most different disciplines of ammo. When loading for precision and longer range I put a lot more care into it than I do for the 45 colt cowboy loads I use for hog trap work.

So it would take Tubb or Hodnett to say annealing every firing is a good thing, to keep you from blurting out out some nonsense like "it's a waste of time"?

David Tubb says if jamming the lands then annealing doesn't help, otherwise anneal.



I think that's way too generalized. But, I don't anneal. Yet. So what do I know.

See I multi task. I drink Miller High Life while I anneal with a torch and power drill. I get the same results and have lots of beer money left in case I decide to anneal every firing or do a big batch.

No

It would take an expert.....Tubb, Hodnett, Litz, etc to convince me, not some nobody on the internet.

There's a lot of blurting out of nonsense in this forum, myself included. Sometimes the road to being convinced of something different takes defending your priors as viciously as possible.

I guess that's how we should treat you when you're trying to help with spotting scopes. Just ignore you, because you're some nobody on the internet. No way could you be an expert.

We all need to get a hot cup of and be friends this morning.

But not Black Rifle Coffee, right? Because they turned their backs on us.

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I don't even drink coffee.

I used to think you were a good guy

I could care less. I just offer up my experiences with my own eyeballs.

Side track but I never thought DRC coffee was all that great. Now that they have, I'm definitely out on them! Dollar for dollar, community coffee is the best deal going.

Im way to cheap for their coffee.

The same as so many people here do on various topics.

How much less could you care?