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Annealing brass #8329098 07/23/21 11:48 AM
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I assume the only advantage of this is to make brass last longer? Less brittle after repeated loadings?


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Also keeps close to same neck tension each time it's loaded.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Also keeps close to same neck tension each time it's loaded.

This is equally important to me and therefore at least 50% of the reason I anneal. Was loading some Grendel one day and finished the box of 2 fires without fresh anneal. I moved on to the box of freshly annealed and wow what a difference I could feel in the seating.

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Also within your brass pieces they can work harden at different rates so you get varying neck spring back when Sizing. Annealing all helps minimize the variation but according to some you have to anneal each firing for best results.
When brass is cheap I doubt it’s worth it but these days brass ain’t cheap.


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I anneal every time. You can feel the difference in consistency when seating bullets.

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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Also keeps close to same neck tension each time it's loaded.

nice, I didnt know this. Thanks all


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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
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Also keeps close to same neck tension each time it's loaded.

nice, I didnt know this. Thanks all


Buzz,

stretch for the AMP if at all possible.
It was the third annealer I bought and absolutely worth the price.
The AMP has no flames, is faster, and more consistent.
No flames is a real plus having worked with a few.

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Originally Posted by jeffbird
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Also keeps close to same neck tension each time it's loaded.

nice, I didnt know this. Thanks all


Buzz,

stretch for the AMP if at all possible.
It was the third annealer I bought and absolutely worth the price.
The AMP has no flames, is faster, and more consistent.
No flames is a real plus having worked with a few.


^^^^ this 100%

I started with the BenchSource, fine annealer in my opinion. I use mine inside the house, I never liked the torches but I did it. The other HUGE thing is the AMP is consistent. No matter if I do 1 today, 5 tomorrow and 20 on Monday it’s the same heat. You cannot do that easy with the torches, so I was batching stuff. Seating force/neck tension proved that it needed to be done that way.

I anneal every firing.


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Also keeps close to same neck tension each time it's loaded.

nice, I didnt know this. Thanks all


Buzz,

stretch for the AMP if at all possible.
It was the third annealer I bought and absolutely worth the price.
The AMP has no flames, is faster, and more consistent.
No flames is a real plus having worked with a few.


^^^^ this 100%

I started with the BenchSource, fine annealer in my opinion. I use mine inside the house, I never liked the torches but I did it. The other HUGE thing is the AMP is consistent. No matter if I do 1 today, 5 tomorrow and 20 on Monday it’s the same heat. You cannot do that easy with the torches, so I was batching stuff. Seating force/neck tension proved that it needed to be done that way.

I anneal every firing.

cheers


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The AMP is super easy, consistent, repeatable and fast so if you can swing the expense it’s a solid long term Investment. If your doing a lot of brass put a AMP mate and case feeder on it and you can pump out a ton of brass quick hands free.

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Annealing after every firing seems like a colossal waste of time, therefore I do it every 3rd firing. 99% of hunters and shooters will never notice the difference in load performance anyway. Over a 30 year period I didn't anneal 7mag brass at all, just tossing them if/when they split, and still managed to kill at least a couple hundred animals with it.

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A load that can stay inside 8" at 200 yards would be just fine for some people.

Other people want a load that can stay inside half an inch at 200 yards. Annealing every firing makes sense for those people. And it's not a waste of time. Tumbling brass clean takes more time than annealing it.


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Buzz what calibers are you needing annealed?

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I anneal after every firing since I'm chasing consistent neck tension and accuracy. I've only got the Annealeze and it is one of the easier steps I do in my reloading process.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
A load that can stay inside 8" at 200 yards would be just fine for some people.

Other people want a load that can stay inside half an inch at 200 yards. Annealing every firing makes sense for those people. And it's not a waste of time. Tumbling brass clean takes more time than annealing it.


These "other" people make up a miniscule % of the hunting population.

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Originally Posted by Jgraider
Originally Posted by FiremanJG
A load that can stay inside 8" at 200 yards would be just fine for some people.

Other people want a load that can stay inside half an inch at 200 yards. Annealing every firing makes sense for those people. And it's not a waste of time. Tumbling brass clean takes more time than annealing it.


These "other" people make up a miniscule % of the hunting population.


"Trying to get a bit more precision in my loading"

Buzz said ^^this in his thread asking questions about brass prep.

So, in this thread, that still applies. So, you've added nothing of value here. News flash! Not everyone just shoots rifles to do decent. Some people want them to shoot as tight as they possiblity can and as consistently as they possibly can. Be it hunting or not.


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What I've added is that your typical hunter/shooter like Buzz (no offense) is wasting his time annealing every firing. Not everyone's identity is shooting rifles either.

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Hell I might start annealing mine 2-3 times between firings so I can waste even more of my time,,,

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Knowing what I know now, and having felt the difference in seating force consistency when brass has had one firing versus 2-3, I would anneal every firing if I had the funds for an annealer. I guess now that I'm switching brass from Hornady (after 7 firings) over to Prime, I'll probably just start annealing using local folks. I absolutely get better groups on the first firing after an annealing than on the 2nd or 3rd.

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Out of the the guys I know who hunt most buy factory new ammo. I'd say that brass was annealed. The 4 of us who reload all anneal our brass every firing. I'd say we are also the ones trying to shoot little groups as well.


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Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Hell I might start annealing mine 2-3 times between firings so I can waste even more of my time,,,

Do it! banana

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Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
Hell I might start annealing mine 2-3 times between firings so I can waste even more of my time,,,

That's the spirit!!

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I anneal every 3rd cycle. (Two firings between annealing) I use a power drill and propane torch. It is a very simple process and goes fast.
Consistent neck tension and head space on par with new brass and putting an end to split necks to get longer life out of my brass is why I anneal.


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What I've added is that your typical hunter/shooter like Buzz (no offense) is wasting his time annealing every firing. Not everyone's identity is shooting rifles either.


It is my identity as much as spotting scopes are your identity.

I, and many others, have the ability to recognize your experience on the topic. Let you go, sit back and maybe learn something. Evidently you do not possess the integrity to so the same.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
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What I've added is that your typical hunter/shooter like Buzz (no offense) is wasting his time annealing every firing. Not everyone's identity is shooting rifles either.


It is my identity as much as spotting scopes are your identity.

I, and many others, have the ability to recognize your experience on the topic. Let you go, sit back and maybe learn something. Evidently you do not possess the integrity to so the same.


Oh, I most certainly do, which is why I ask Tubb and Hodnett's opinions on these type of subjects. You seem to think only a handful of folks around here possess this type of knowledge. BTW, I do learn stuff here too, I just don't take it as the gospel, just opinions, which is the way anyone interested should take mine.

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