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Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8308831 06/30/21 03:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 21,373 Texan, till death do us part B Bullfrog THF Celebrity
Bullfrog THF Celebrity B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 21,373 Texan, till death do us part	I bet the dog drags his keester on it all the time! I know I would Originally Posted by machinist Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Derek] #8308832 06/30/21 03:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 618 Ector County T Texasteach Tracker
Texasteach Tracker T Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 618 Ector County	Originally Posted by Derek Summer time mow. Let’s go! You might need to try a mower with a different handle. That one seems to aggravate the arthritis in your fingers. You did what?

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8308842 06/30/21 03:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 91,416 Katy-Fulshear bill oxner THF Celebrity
bill oxner THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 91,416 Katy-Fulshear	Did a little mowing this morning just to get out of the house. I always mow the worst first. Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Bullfrog] #8309031 06/30/21 06:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 19,250 Wylie, TX J Judd #1 Creedmoor Fan
Judd #1 Creedmoor Fan J Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 19,250 Wylie, TX	Originally Posted by Bullfrog I bet the dog drags his keester on it all the time! I know I would Rumor has it that wouldn't be the only thing you'd drag across it Originally Posted by Phil Robertson Don't let your ears hear what your eyes didn't see, and don't let your mouth say what your heart doesn't feel

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Derek] #8309041 06/30/21 06:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,779 Wise County nak Veteran Tracker
nak Veteran Tracker Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,779 Wise County	Originally Posted by Derek Bet it's 419. Nothing wrong with that at all. New lawn fertilizer is a scam. You need to hammer that arse with a balanced 1-1-1, At 35k sq feet. I'd be hitting it with something like 13-13-13 with N(Nitrogen} being Ammonium Sulfate vs Urea, at a rate of 150lbs or 3.5-4 lbs per 1000, to break it down in simpler terms. I'd do this every 4 weeks/1st weekend of every month though September. Water it in after application. And I would get an app of fungicides down. Hot and humid ='s disease, Propiconazole will stunt your growth a bit, the Bio, but will handle dollar spot. Azoxystrobin (scotts) gives you a different group to mix, but does nothing for Dollar. Apply at the curative rate. https://www.lowes.com/pd/BAYER-ADVA...3-ZKZtWqeRoCnU0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds https://www.lowes.com/pd/Scotts-DISEASEEx-Lawn-Fungicide-5-m-6/1000617387 That gives you a Group 3 and 11 fungicide action. Which is good. Thanks Derek! This sounds like better advice than I got from the guys that installed the sod. A $400 water bill for 4 months out of the year is going to take some getting used to, but I ran the numbers at our current water rates and that is what 1"/week at the current water rates. If it cannot make it on 1"/week, I'll switch from fertilizer to roundup, then plant cactus. I will run the numbers and talk with my neighbor...it may be that going in 50/50 on an irrigation well makes sense. I think in this area we can drill a 8 - 10 GPM well for about $4500, plus the pump. That would be less than a 2 year payout. Last edited by nak; 06/30/21 06:51 PM. We all need to practice Whoa more.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8309043 06/30/21 06:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 91,416 Katy-Fulshear bill oxner THF Celebrity
bill oxner THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 91,416 Katy-Fulshear	Pass on the water bill. Got more rain this morning. Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Judd] #8309073 06/30/21 07:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 21,373 Texan, till death do us part B Bullfrog THF Celebrity
Bullfrog THF Celebrity B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 21,373 Texan, till death do us part	Originally Posted by Judd Originally Posted by Bullfrog I bet the dog drags his keester on it all the time! I know I would Rumor has it that wouldn't be the only thing you'd drag across it I gotta quit spreading those . . . . Rumors! Group 3 and 11 fungicide action sounds . . . . . Nevermind Originally Posted by machinist Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Bullfrog] #8309076 06/30/21 07:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,409 Ennis, TX. Derek Fert Squirter
Derek Fert Squirter Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,409 Ennis, TX.	Originally Posted by Bullfrog Originally Posted by Judd Originally Posted by Bullfrog I bet the dog drags his keester on it all the time! I know I would Rumor has it that wouldn't be the only thing you'd drag across it I gotta quit spreading those . . . . Rumors! Group 3 and 11 fungicide action sounds . . . . . Nevermind I have text screen shots.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Bullfrog] #8309365 07/01/21 12:17 AM
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NORML as can be ^^Cut the Cord^^ N Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 69,198 TweedLeaf, 123 W Cedar St, Tri...	Originally Posted by Bullfrog I bet the dog drags his keester on it all the time! I know I would They do that on big yards (R-TX) .-- " TCNN CURL CRLB VFF VRNO AYR SNDL CGC TLRY MSOS " _=====___=________==-

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Bullfrog] #8309536 07/01/21 03:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 26,195 Sherman/North of Dallas KRoyal Texoma Legend
KRoyal Texoma Legend Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 26,195 Sherman/North of Dallas	Originally Posted by Bullfrog Originally Posted by Judd Originally Posted by Bullfrog I bet the dog drags his keester on it all the time! I know I would Rumor has it that wouldn't be the only thing you'd drag across it I gotta quit spreading those . . . . Rumors! Group 3 and 11 fungicide action sounds . . . . . Nevermind Originally Posted by Bullfrog Originally Posted by Judd Originally Posted by Bullfrog I bet the dog drags his keester on it all the time! I know I would Rumor has it that wouldn't be the only thing you'd drag across it I gotta quit spreading those . . . . Rumors! Group 3 and 11 fungicide action sounds . . . . . Nevermind You gotta quit spreading period. Otherwise we gonna have a bunch of big bullfrogs running around.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8309929 07/01/21 04:47 PM
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KRoyal Texoma Legend Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 26,195 Sherman/North of Dallas	Not as pretty as Derek’s but, fresh mow and fresh stain on the deck and fence. Hung some cafe lights over the deck. Got so much shade in the back yard grass hardly grows back there. But is what it is we’ll still enjoy it.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8309937 07/01/21 04:51 PM
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Bullfrog THF Celebrity B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 21,373 Texan, till death do us part	Very nice Kyle. Oh and only two baby frogs that I know of Originally Posted by machinist Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Bullfrog] #8309946 07/01/21 05:02 PM
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KRoyal Texoma Legend Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 26,195 Sherman/North of Dallas	Originally Posted by Bullfrog Very nice Kyle. Oh and only two baby frogs that I know of Thanks Froggy! It’s been a lot of work over the last couple weeks. I way underestimated how much stain I needed for the fence. So most of the time was spent waiting for shipments. That gray away from southern stain and seal in Plano is some good stuff. Thanks Judd, cost me over $600 in stain but it turned out great.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8309971 07/01/21 05:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 21,373 Texan, till death do us part B Bullfrog THF Celebrity
Bullfrog THF Celebrity B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 21,373 Texan, till death do us part	I hear he’s good at helping ya spend it. Lol Originally Posted by machinist Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8309979 07/01/21 05:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 91,416 Katy-Fulshear bill oxner THF Celebrity
bill oxner THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 91,416 Katy-Fulshear	Try the ugly end of a grass trimmer cord. Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Derek] #8309987 07/01/21 05:37 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,294 Mountain Springs, Texas ; Thre... oldoak2000 Extreme Tracker
oldoak2000 Extreme Tracker Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,294 Mountain Springs, Texas ; Thre...	Originally Posted by Derek Summer time mow. Let’s go! Daaauuummmm - nice putting green there, Derek!!!!!

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Derek] #8311530 07/03/21 03:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,779 Wise County nak Veteran Tracker
nak Veteran Tracker Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,779 Wise County	Originally Posted by Derek Bet it's 419. Nothing wrong with that at all. New lawn fertilizer is a scam. You need to hammer that arse with a balanced 1-1-1, At 35k sq feet. I'd be hitting it with something like 13-13-13 with N(Nitrogen} being Ammonium Sulfate vs Urea, at a rate of 150lbs or 3.5-4 lbs per 1000, to break it down in simpler terms. I'd do this every 4 weeks/1st weekend of every month though September. Water it in after application. And I would get an app of fungicides down. Hot and humid ='s disease, Propiconazole will stunt your growth a bit, the Bio, but will handle dollar spot. Azoxystrobin (scotts) gives you a different group to mix, but does nothing for Dollar. Apply at the curative rate. https://www.lowes.com/pd/BAYER-ADVA...3-ZKZtWqeRoCnU0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds https://www.lowes.com/pd/Scotts-DISEASEEx-Lawn-Fungicide-5-m-6/1000617387 That gives you a Group 3 and 11 fungicide action. Which is good. Great Oracle of Lawns.... Scott's Diseaseex is down at the curative rate. After hitting a nursery, HD, & Lowes, the closest thing I can find to the recommended fertilizer is a 13-13-13 that is 5% Ammonium Nitrogen and 8% Urea Nitrogen . Just about everything else in big bags is just nitrogen or its a weed&feed. Is that safe for the lawn, or do I need to expand my search? Thanks We all need to practice Whoa more.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: nak] #8311556 07/03/21 03:57 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,409 Ennis, TX. Derek Fert Squirter
Derek Fert Squirter Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,409 Ennis, TX.	What you found will work fine. Where you'll find ammonium sulfate based ferts is at feed stores. Most feed stores keep APF American Plant Food ferts. Lone Star Feeds is a huge private label for APF. Russell feed store is another. APF K8 is a 15-5-10 with added micros that I recommend a lot for people and they are getting great results with it. Russell has their on private label of it. I'm using APF 13-13-13 that I buy at a local Nutrien Ag.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8311649 07/03/21 06:56 PM
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nak Veteran Tracker Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,779 Wise County	Ah. We have a Russel feeds just down the road from us. thanks again. We all need to practice Whoa more.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8312092 07/04/21 01:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 91,416 Katy-Fulshear bill oxner THF Celebrity
bill oxner THF Celebrity Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 91,416 Katy-Fulshear	Free pecan wood. FOB my driveway. Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8320469 07/14/21 03:01 AM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,409 Ennis, TX. Derek Fert Squirter
Derek Fert Squirter Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,409 Ennis, TX.	Disease pressure is higher than hell right now. Get your Scotts Disease EX which is cheap on Amazon for $16.00 a bag right now. And Bio Advance. Seen they have it as a granular now last week at Lowes. Water them in. Bio also comes in a hose end. That's Azoxystrobin and Prop, so that gives you a group 11 and 3. Apply at preventative if your lawn it looking on point. Which I doubt. Apply at the curative rate, then roll preventative rate 14 days later. The thing about diseases is it's easier to control as a preventative than a curative. So don't be smoking a Cig while applying. Thank me later. https://www.greencastonline.com/tools/pestoutlooks.aspx

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8320737 07/14/21 02:05 PM
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nak Veteran Tracker Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,779 Wise County	Your were on target Derek. The Disease EX and fertilize has stopped the yellow\brown spots from growing and green already appearing in most of the damaged spots. I'll follow up with another round of Disease Ex next week. At what point is it safe to start working on the weeds on new Bermuda sod? Do I hold off on that the entire summer to let the sod get better established? We all need to practice Whoa more.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8320819 07/14/21 03:41 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,409 Ennis, TX. Derek Fert Squirter
Derek Fert Squirter Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,409 Ennis, TX.	If you've mowed a couple/few times you're good to go. Downside is there are no real good options at the box stores to use in this heat. What your plan of attack. Boom spraying that 34K or you planning on spot spraying? Do you have a lot of trees out there? Specifically oak and elms?

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8321029 07/14/21 07:37 PM
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BigPig THF Celebrity B Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 22,716 Forney, Tx	What eating my Knock Out Roses? This is on two plants that touch each other, started about a week ago, don’t see any bugs.

Re: THF Lawn & Landscaping Thread [Re: Ol Thumper] #8321046 07/14/21 07:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 19,250 Wylie, TX J Judd #1 Creedmoor Fan
Judd #1 Creedmoor Fan J Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 19,250 Wylie, TX	If you dig around in the rose bush can you find the cone shaped things hanging around? They have a worm in them...I fought those things to the point of giving up on a knockout rose bush. It's dead now....both the worms and the bush Originally Posted by Phil Robertson Don't let your ears hear what your eyes didn't see, and don't let your mouth say what your heart doesn't feel

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