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Cool snake- Western Massasauga #8299398 06/19/21 10:10 PM
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I caught this snake in my backyard NE of Abilene Thursday morning right before I mowed. When I caught it with my tongs I knew it was way different from other rattlesnakes I’ve messed with. I put it in a tub and went on about my mowing. I finally looked it up and it’s a Western Massasauga. It was released back in my east field later in the day.

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Re: Cool snake- Western Massasauga [Re: Revoman] #8299401 06/19/21 10:12 PM
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That’s a very pretty and unusual looking snake. I’ve never heard of it before, pretty cool and thanks for sharing that pic up

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Wow that is a cool looking rattler, great job releasing it up


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That’s a cool snake


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Re: Cool snake- Western Massasauga [Re: Revoman] #8299422 06/19/21 10:41 PM
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have heard of never seen, great job and letting do its thing


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Re: Cool snake- Western Massasauga [Re: Revoman] #8299443 06/19/21 11:21 PM
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Beautiful!


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Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
Beautiful!

Re: Cool snake- Western Massasauga [Re: Revoman] #8299468 06/19/21 11:49 PM
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Isn’t the venom a different type of toxin than a western diamondback?



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Pure greatness. Thanks a bunch for posting. cheers


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Never seen one before. Pretty cool looking.



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I have never heard of this snake.


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Re: Cool snake- Western Massasauga [Re: Revoman] #8299527 06/20/21 12:52 AM
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I believe USFWS will be listing them as threatened soon!

That is an awesome encounter!


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Re: Cool snake- Western Massasauga [Re: Revoman] #8299622 06/20/21 02:40 AM
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Wow, beautiful snake. I’ve always wanted to find a rattlesnake in Texas that wasn’t a western diamondback, just because.

Re: Cool snake- Western Massasauga [Re: 68rustbucket] #8299635 06/20/21 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Isn’t the venom a different type of toxin than a western diamondback?



Yes. Actually more toxic than a diamondback but the amount it injects is much less than the diamondback so a bite is usually not as serious as a bite from a diamondback . Massasaugas are the only venomous snake we have in Ontario and they are rare.

OP - great find

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Re: Cool snake- Western Massasauga [Re: Revoman] #8299638 06/20/21 02:49 AM
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First I’ve ever heard of, never seen one till now thanks for sharing ! up

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Pure greatness. Thanks a bunch for posting. cheers

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I have never heard of this snake.

Both post counters had not a clue what it was. That is pretty freaking cool.


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Very cool!

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Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Isn’t the venom a different type of toxin than a western diamondback?


You're thinking of the Mojave Rattler, it contains both a neurotoxin and a hemotoxin. The Western Diamondback and the Massasuga carry a hemotoxin.

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Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Originally Posted by Hirogen
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Isn’t the venom a different type of toxin than a western diamondback?



Yes. Actually more toxic than a diamondback but the amount it injects is much less than the diamondback so a bite is usually not as serious as a bite from a diamondback . Massasaugas are the only venomous snake we have in Ontario and they are rare.

OP - great find


Not actually a 'different' type of toxin, both are hemotoxins, but the potency can be different.

Very cool snake. Lucky find for the OP...as the Western Massasauga is not a very heat tolerant rattlesnake and spends a lot of time burrowed in the day, this time of year.

Glad to see the OP relocated the reptile instead of killing it.



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Isn’t the venom a different type of toxin than a western diamondback?



Yes. Actually more toxic than a diamondback but the amount it injects is much less than the diamondback so a bite is usually not as serious as a bite from a diamondback . Massasaugas are the only venomous snake we have in Ontario and they are rare.

OP - great find


Not actually a 'different' type of toxin, both are hemotoxins, but the potency can be different.

Very cool snake. Lucky find for the OP...as the Western Massasauga is not a very heat tolerant rattlesnake and spends a lot of time burrowed in the day, this time of year.

Glad to see the OP relocated the reptile instead of killing it.



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When i first seen the pic the other day I asked if they'd had any hay delivered from up nth, that's a rare find this far in the southwest.


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Massasaugas don't get real big, we've had one collected in MN, but they're pretty common in Wisconsin.


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Originally Posted by HWY_MAN
Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Isn’t the venom a different type of toxin than a western diamondback?


You're thinking of the Mojave Rattler, it contains both a neurotoxin and a hemotoxin. The Western Diamondback and the Massasuga carry a hemotoxin.



This is correct. And the toxicity level of the Mojave's neurotoxin venom has been shown to vary wildly from one location to another.

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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
I have never heard of this snake.


Many folks would be surprised to know we have 10 species of Rattlesnake in Texas. Only Arizona has more with 13 I believe.


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Glad you relocated it.


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Neat looking snake, never seen before.

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