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Need advice #8287519 06/07/21 04:39 PM
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I just bought 80+ acres of wooded rural timberland land in central East Texas. No one has lived on it in the last 100 years though, at some point, someone ran a few head of cattle on it. I will be living on it and keeping my horses on the north end, which is the best flat area for pastureland, where the well is and electrical hookups. I also enjoy hiking, four wheeling and farming; in essence, I bought this land to enjoy it; safely.

The northern neighboring property is about 40 acres, uninhabited and while we were checking the property line, found a feeder and stand within a few yards of the fence, aiming towards a small creek that borders the West side of both properties. We have a small swimming hole we (my kids and grandkids) want to use in that same area.
The line from the feeder to the stand would mean any overshot, is going to be on the NW side of our property and very close to that pond.

I don’t want to be a witch, I hunt too but, I don’t know this person from Adam (it is owned by a land development company) and pour enough alcohol into someone and careless mistakes happen.

We also found a small pop up blind, in decent condition on our property (the previous owner, or rather his daughter, he is deceased, does not hunt, nor have they leased since the timber was planted about 15 years ago), which leads me to believe that someone has also been possibly making use of our property as recently as last season without permission of the owner (goes to mindset).

I don’t want this to turn into a point of contention but, I also want to be able to use my property as I see fit and do so safely. I am a little hesitant that any suggestion by me (new to town) when they show up at hunting season, that for safety reasons they should move that feeder so they are shooting into their own property, might cause blowback.

Heck, just all the noisy building and timber thinning we are going to need to do is probably going to be enough to piss them off when they show up to bait the feeder, especially if they paid money to lease it.

I have thought about putting up a tall “privacy” fence along the entire northern property line just to make the delineation clear and if a stray does head that way maybe slow it down a bit…do you think that would just be poking the bear or ?
I am open to suggestions.

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A privacy fence isn't going to stop a stray round, all it will do is inhibit the person shooting that round from seeing what's hiding behind the curtain. Make friends, let them know you're excited to be there and you're doing some improvements. Drop a hint that your grandkids can't wait to go swimming and fishing at the tank.

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I would start out by finding out who owns the neighboring properties and talk with them if you can. Getting to know your neighbors and them you can be good for you and them.


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My first thought is you got you a nice pop-up blind for free.
I'd have taken it right then and there when I found it.

My second thought is that if I were you I'd set multiple cameras out and hide them as best I could. It sounds like the previous owner of the property didn't hunt your place and the neighbors knew that and did!

Once you get pics of them on your property you have the proof needed to call in the either the sheriff's department or the Game Warden and get them involved. If you get a picture of someone that is obviously armed, I'm pretty sure the law will not hesitate to investigate it fully and charge someone!


High fence, low fence, no fence, it really doesn't matter as long as you're hunting!
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To the north it is a real estate investment firm that owns it. Property to our south and west is owned by a real estate firm out of Houston, backed by the Chinese. To the East, is clover fields. The nearest neighbor is a couple of miles away so all I have is tax records to go by.

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I like that camera idea!
Like I said, I hunt (hogs and deer) so not opposed to using land for that, just don't want my horses, my dogs or myself accidentally shot. Also, don't want to cause problems in such a small town (pop 1200).

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Just guessing, but bet that whomever was hunting the fence, and possibly the pop up, knew that the property was going unused and decided to treat it as such. Bet once you are there with regularity and they/he/her see activity, the problems go away. To help, assuming there is a fence, grab a can of purple paint and mark every third or fourth post making it clear NO TRESPASSERS. Hopefully, over time, you'll meet whomever is hunting over there, make friends, but also let them know you are there with family and shots over the fence will not be toperated.


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Re: Need advice [Re: Horsesandhunting] #8287588 06/07/21 05:30 PM
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leave a note telling whoever finds it to contact you. Do not be afraid of telling your desires as that IS NOT confrontational. You can make it that way, it does not have to be that way. Open and up front is what I will say and that is every single dad umm time - everyone of 'em.

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How much are the kids going to go swimming Nov -- Jan ------------------ probably none. Small acreages have the problem of overshooting property lines , just a hazard of owning property. Good advice was to make friends with the hunter and depend on his goodwill to be careful. Not much else you can do.

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Originally Posted by kmon1
I would start out by finding out who owns the neighboring properties and talk with them if you can. Getting to know your neighbors and them you can be good for you and them.



Exactly this.

Could be good people. Just need to meet them, and tell them your expectations. If they wanted control of the land, they should have bought it. I had that conversation 8 years ago.

Polite, but clear and firm.

e.t.a. Fences make good neighbors. Rebuild what needs it, repair what needs it. Purple paint the posts every fourth or fifth post. I did this, and it has been sending a clear message. Years ago dove hunters hopped into my side, when there was little left of a four strand Barb wire fence. A friend of mine told them to get back on the other side, and that they were trespassing. I built new fence on that line, five foot tall, six strand wire, and sprayed purple pain on the tops of the posts. Never again has anyone crossed the fence.

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Reading comprehension skills vary, but I did pick up on this - ". . . I don’t know this person from Adam (it is owned by a land development company) . . .

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Originally Posted by Hudbone
PM Max and see what he says.

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Wish you well like others have said, find out who owns the properties reach out to them and get them your contact info.

I guess some folks just never think about it or dont know how to deal with it. My new neighbor took down over 900 foot of my fence and never bothered to try and contact me. I wanted to ring his neck at first, but calmer heads usually prevail. Ive contacted him and he seems to be a good man, and his plan is a benefit to me, but it just would have been nice to be let known whats happening on my own property. I got in contact with him quickly and easily, he could have done the same.

Not the first way I would go about it but if you cannot get ahold of the people then contacty the game warden with a concern about a bullet crossing property lines may be an avenue. If it is owned by a developer, I can definitly see them wanting to avoid any liability associated with a gun/accident etc. and may be easier to get in touch with someone also. Look at the tax records for who owns it.


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I'll bet that development company would allow you to take down that stand and feeder. Get it in writing if so.

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Originally Posted by booskay
How much are the kids going to go swimming Nov -- Jan ------------------ probably none. Small acreages have the problem of overshooting property lines , just a hazard of owning property. Good advice was to make friends with the hunter and depend on his goodwill to be careful. Not much else you can do.

You mean they actual hunt deer only in deer season in East Texas? What about hog hunting year round or turkey hunting?

Like many have posted congrats on buying land. Nothing is more satisfying than owning land. Contacting the neighbor is sound advice and leaving them a note on the blind with your phone number is a one way. It could be the current landowner does not even know about the hunting blind on his land also. If you are doing some improvements look at having all the fence lines cleared so you can access or drive all them when you need to to. One thing I did before buying land was to find out who the neighbors were, so I could do my own research on them before I bought the land.


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Originally Posted by booskay
How much are the kids going to go swimming Nov -- Jan ------------------ probably none. Small acreages have the problem of overshooting property lines , just a hazard of owning property. Good advice was to make friends with the hunter and depend on his goodwill to be careful. Not much else you can do.



Sorry, I disagree

That is the hazards of morons that should have weapons in their hands....EVER!

A 40 acre tract such as the OP said the neighbor has next to them is enough property to make dame sure you set your stand and feeder up so that there is no chance of a projectile leaving your property.
It is up to the person(s) hunting/shooting on that property to set it up right and be responsible.


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Welcome to property ownership

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Originally Posted by booskay
Small acreages have the problem of overshooting property lines , just a hazard of owning property. Good advice was to make friends with the hunter and depend on his goodwill to be careful. Not much else you can do.


I’m lookin to lease your neighbors house in the city. I enjoy shooting & your gonna have to put up with some stray rounds. I’m sure you won’t mind.

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Probably poachers on both the tracts. No one is around ,so free lease.

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I have 5 neighbors. I get along with 2, don’t know 1 and the other 2 and I have issues. They don’t appreciate me standing my ground re property rights and paying their agreed share of fences.


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Find the owners of the adjourning tracts and see if they will lease it to you at a reasonable price.


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Thank-you all.

No, kids won't be swimming in January smile but may be fishing. We also have a small tract of land, North of Austin that used to be the boonies 20 years ago and know all of the neighbors and had worked out hunting arrangements. It's just gotten too dang crowded here anymore. We have this property "posted" after a church group bought next door and created a "retreat". Went to my pasture several times to find strangers and their kids messing with the horses.
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I think we will try a couple of things y'all have suggested because the hubby will be living at the current house for work and I will be living out there for work (I own a small timber and ag business) and building, so being a woman alone out there, keeping up neighborly relations are a good thing!

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I didn't read all posts, so this may have already been mentioned, but the first thing I would do is post the property- put up lots of signs, especially where the feeder is located. Then with game cameras up and catching trespassers is much easier to prosecute if the land is posted. Secondly, as far as the pop up, I would gather it up and drive a t-post in the ground where is was saying that this property is off limits and if you want your pop up back to call you. I doubt that you will get a call but if you do the fact that they called will be proof they trespassed- make arrangements for them to pick up the pop up at the sheriff's office.

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