The greatest danger is when the heirs of a property decide to sell rather than retain the land.

The current puppet masters don't believe in private property, except of course, their compounds.

Yes, leasing hunting, but still acting as a guest, is a hard concept for some to wrap their head around. It usually pays to be humble, but some guys just don't have it in them.

I disagree

I'm talking about the ranches that have been in families for generations for the most part.
A lot of the true blue Texas Ranchers would rather starve than sell an acre of their sacred land and I don't blame them for that one bit. The land means everything to them because of the values they were taught on it!

Many down South are now have millions in the bank because of the EF oil boom but prior to that literally scratched a living off that brush for generations from cattle and what they could get selling either leases or package hunts.

Point is, a "hands-off" owner isn't always a good thing. And an owner needs to regularly check all that he has.

Broke small ranchers/farmers are the minority not majority IMO.

I was on a lease south of Ozona for just one year, with a buddy from church, before the big fires went across it and then my buddy died. Large, multiple-ranch owner; well-known name in the Sonora/Ozona area. He hadn't laid his eyes on the pasture and camp in twenty years. I was even a little shocked, but the camp looked like a "Colonia". Actually, I think a Colonia is a little nicer. Owner finally wound up on the place and had a conniption fit. I don't really blame him. I wouldn't want all that crap on my land and there was no way it was ever gonna be hauled off by the "responsible parties". God Bless the VFD, although the fire would have helped some of the camp. I got my travel trailer and never went back. I did not leave a thing of mine there.

'Point is, a "hands-off" owner isn't always a good thing. And an owner needs to regularly check all that he has.

That’s a bit of stretch. It’s not the cartel it’s the illegals and the bs that comes with it. We have a couple tracts of land between family members in south Texas. To be specific La Salle, Webb, Jim Hogg, Hidalgo, and Starr. All considered to be high traffic areas. Do illegals of today pose a physical threat yes, but the Cartel is not walking into hunting camps. South Texas leases that produce good WT will NOT suffer. Just ask my in-laws. They just leased 2000ac HF ranch with improved genetics at $48k and require a set amount of protein to be fed yearly. I hear what you’re saying and there is a ton of bs that can be associated with south Texas leases, but el chapo ain’t showing up at camp.

Sir maybe not in YOUR camp but it was in ours - I have spent 13 years twelve miles from Eagle Pass - mosey down there for a few days and tell me the cartel is not there - how do I know? because I have personally witnessed it multiple times - don't believe me? Go ask any BP agent in that area -

I also know many many other LO's in that area and they are overrun - so it may not have reached your area yet but trust me it is happening in a pretty big swath where we were -

Not starting a Pissing match - I respect that maybe you do not have it in Webb, etc but believe me it is full force in a large area near the border and it has hunters thinking twice

Not trying to start one either. Anything west of Webb I’m not to familiar with. That’s terrible to hear and I can only hope that the tide changes soon.

Sir maybe not in YOUR camp but it was in ours - I have spent 13 years twelve miles from Eagle Pass - mosey down there for a few days and tell me the cartel is not there - how do I know? because I have personally witnessed it multiple times - don't believe me? Go ask any BP agent in that area - I had many BP officers tell me how many cartel members were moving through the area and that they were dealing with. My hunters and I witnessed multiple groups dressed in black from head to toe with backpacks going through our ranch and some approaching camp. It is a real issue where we are.

I also know many many other LO's in that area and they are overrun - so it may not have reached your area yet but trust me it is happening in a pretty big swath where we were -

Not starting a Pissing match - I respect that maybe you do not have it in Webb, etc but believe me it is full force in a large area near the border and it has hunters thinking twice -

https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/03...g-property-damage-and-trashing-his-land/

One day, many many years in the future, when you are no longer with us,

I’ll go down by the wind mill and build a Colonia in your honor. We will throw a pachanga/crawfish boil to be inclusive of all the neighbors

Colonia = poor neighborhood or residential area in south texas. Proper Spanish it’s = to suburb. On our side Picture tin roof and walls Made of the following materials or mix of osb, tin siding, cinder blocks, or pallets. Picture shanty towns and shacks.

Not disagreeing, but how do you all know the guys in black are cartel? Illegals are the cartels #1 commodity. It’s the gift that keeps giving. Many times the illegals will pay up to $10k usd to be guided across. Once They get picked up on our side they dropped back over and they work for several years for the cartel for another opportunity to be led across. 9/10 times the coyotes leading them are not actual cartel guys. They are just on the payroll and sadly live on our side. The cartel uses a lot of local gangbangers and thugs. I guess that’s splitting hairs. One thing that I’ve learned is cartels realize violence on our side is bad for business. That’s why at grandpas place when BP, DPS, or State boys are on them they either drop their stash and book it for the river or if they are close they will try and make it back across with the merchandise. The cartels aren’t stupid they want to minimize their presence it’s bad for business. That’s one of the multitude of things Biden is clueless on. He doesn’t realize opening our border is putting tons of renewable revenue in the pockets of drug cartels. The left ideology incentivizes and promotes that revenue stream.


My grandpas place is literally on the banks of the rio grande in Hidalgo County. I grew up on that place and seen more illegals than I can count. A couple years back I went to go night hunt grandpas place. when I showed up in the back section there was 9 of those 15 passenger vans that BP uses as paddy wagons full to the brim. they still Had maybe 30 people sitting on the ground. Believe me I’m familiar with the problem. Hell I spent 2 years and a good chunk of money restoring one of grandpas JD 4020’s and they made a big [censored] floating dock and tried to steal it. BP thermal caught it and went to intercept. they panicked and it ended up at the bottom of the river. I’m still not over that.

With hunting land now selling for between $4,000 ------------$8,000 an acre ( I just sold 42 acres for $340,000 in Durango, Tx), the amount people will pay to lease it will be insignificant to the new land owners, so it is unlikely they will lease the hunting rights. If you paid $340K for land would you really lease the rights for $2K---No.