texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
jbcuster, DestiYemm, nemclean, Eshfor, utahhunter
68457 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 107,786
bill oxner 84,585
stxranchman 57,474
SnakeWrangler 57,219
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Gravytrain 42,620
BMD 41,172
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics604,276
Posts11,322,079
Members83,457
Most Online19,184
Feb 5th, 2020
Print Thread
creatine? #8261993 05/10/21 07:40 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
K
kdub Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
Anybody use creatine?

I lift 3x a week, kickbox twice, and do bjj 3-5 times a week. I eat clean mostly and drink whey protein after my morning workout.

Would creatine benefit muscle growth and energy? Have been reading about it, looking for input on experience with it.

Thanks

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262048 05/10/21 08:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
T
txtrophy85 Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
used it in high school. Saw mild strength gains, can increase muscle size due to the way it works ( forces water into the cells )


I wouldn't count me out on ever using it again, but its not going to make you put on a huge amount of size.



What exactly are you trying to accomplish from it?


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: creatine? [Re: txtrophy85] #8262049 05/10/21 08:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
K
kdub Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
Originally Posted by txtrophy85



What exactly are you trying to accomplish from it?


I don't want to get huge my goal is to improve performance in strength,endurance,and recovery. Improving grappling endurance would be my main goal.

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262079 05/10/21 09:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 84,585
bill oxner Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 84,585
Three square meals a day for me.


Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill


[Linked Image]




Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262234 05/11/21 12:33 AM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 50,281
BOBO the Clown Offline
decoy
Offline
decoy
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 50,281
Originally Posted by kdub
Originally Posted by txtrophy85



What exactly are you trying to accomplish from it?


I don't want to get huge my goal is to improve performance in strength,endurance,and recovery. Improving grappling endurance would be my main goal.


Yes, but it's a supplement. It's a small percentage gain in recovery which helps with energy and strength.


Donate to TX Youth hunting program.... better to donate then to waste it in taxes

https://secure.qgiv.com/for/gtgoh/mobile
Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262236 05/11/21 12:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 42,620
G
Gravytrain Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
G
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 42,620
How much sleep you getting, melatonin might help more if you aren't getting a solid 7 hours.


"there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work" - Silent Bob
Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262242 05/11/21 12:43 AM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
T
txtrophy85 Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
Originally Posted by kdub
Originally Posted by txtrophy85



What exactly are you trying to accomplish from it?


I don't want to get huge my goal is to improve performance in strength,endurance,and recovery. Improving grappling endurance would be my main goal.



What’s your age? Creatine in and of itself won’t make you huge.....you have to do pharmaceutical grade stuff for that.

It may be noticeable the difference it makes though. Be sure to stay hydrated


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262256 05/11/21 12:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
T
txtrophy85 Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
Personally I see more benefit from a test booster. I currently use Nugenix Ultimate stacked with a high quality ZMA

I can definitely tell when I am in the off cycle time.


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262411 05/11/21 04:08 AM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,497
Ol Thumper Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,497
I took a ton of it along with a ton of other things, some legal and a lot not so much but to answer your question yes, I noticed a definite gains while on it in stamina and energy during work outs and more so recovering from work outs. I used it for roughly 15 years for intense 2-4 hour daily work outs, it all really depends on how far you want to push the envelope. Just know one day you will be older and your joints won’t like you very much any more hammer

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262535 05/11/21 01:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
K
kdub Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
Thanks for the info

I am 38 btw

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262563 05/11/21 01:30 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
T
txtrophy85 Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
Originally Posted by kdub
Thanks for the info

I am 38 btw


I would look into nugenix ultimate. Works for me, I’m a few years under than you at 35. Creatine is fine to take along side of it


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262658 05/11/21 02:39 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 50,281
BOBO the Clown Offline
decoy
Offline
decoy
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 50,281
Originally Posted by kdub
Thanks for the info

I am 38 btw


I’d go get your T levels tested.


Donate to TX Youth hunting program.... better to donate then to waste it in taxes

https://secure.qgiv.com/for/gtgoh/mobile
Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262665 05/11/21 02:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 9,326
B
Biscuit Online Shocked
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Shocked
THF Trophy Hunter
B
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 9,326
Where do you train bjj ?

Re: creatine? [Re: BOBO the Clown] #8262680 05/11/21 02:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
T
txtrophy85 Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by kdub
Thanks for the info

I am 38 btw


I’d go get your T levels tested.



I’ve heard that Because of diet and other “ environmental factors” that an average 35 year olds T-Levels today are about the same as a 65 year old mans from 25 years ago.

Another huge T booster is sunlight. Get outside, take your shirt off and sun your chest and back. Absorb that vitamin D.



For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: creatine? [Re: Biscuit] #8262690 05/11/21 02:59 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
K
kdub Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
Originally Posted by Biscuit
Where do you train bjj ?



TBT Mckinney

I started in Feb this year. Started out thinking it might be fun to try in addition to my other workouts, it's my favorite now. I'm getting smashed by higher belts every time, but my goal is to learn. I can see small increases that tell me I'm learning, that' s the fun part for me. My 6 yo daughter is learning too.

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262746 05/11/21 04:05 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 56
O
outdoor-addict Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
O
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 56
I believe it actually hinders endurance type activities, as previously stated water is stored at the cellular level creating the "buff" appearance but causes dehydration issues. Also some GI effects.......

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262749 05/11/21 04:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 9,326
B
Biscuit Online Shocked
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Shocked
THF Trophy Hunter
B
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 9,326
Originally Posted by kdub
Originally Posted by Biscuit
Where do you train bjj ?



TBT Mckinney

I started in Feb this year. Started out thinking it might be fun to try in addition to my other workouts, it's my favorite now. I'm getting smashed by higher belts every time, but my goal is to learn. I can see small increases that tell me I'm learning, that' s the fun part for me. My 6 yo daughter is learning too.


That’s fantastic! Stick with it, it’s hard but it’s worth it.

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262772 05/11/21 04:34 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,387
N
Nathan at Fork Online Happy
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Happy
THF Trophy Hunter
N
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,387
Just a quick warning. I was hitting the gym heavy and often last year. Creatine daily and bcaa and a stimulant pre-workout. It would really help by drive in the gym and I could lift heavier and longer. BUT, it came with a side effect I didn't know about. Its called stimdick. Started having a problem staying...erect. took a bit to figure out the issue. Once I cut out the pre-workout mix it went away. Its a little embarrassing, especially when I first experienced the issue the first time my girlfriend and was going to have sex, but I'm willing to put my embarrassment out there in the.hopes of helping one of my fellow thfers who may experience the same thing. Just keep it in mind if the issue comes up as a possible cause and easy fix.


[Linked Image]
Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262827 05/11/21 05:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
K
kdub Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,795
Thanks for the advice Nathan ^^^^ I'll stay away from the pre workouts.

Re: creatine? [Re: Nathan at Fork] #8262841 05/11/21 05:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
T
txtrophy85 Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,632
Originally Posted by Nathan at Fork
Just a quick warning. I was hitting the gym heavy and often last year. Creatine daily and bcaa and a stimulant pre-workout. It would really help by drive in the gym and I could lift heavier and longer. BUT, it came with a side effect I didn't know about. Its called stimdick. Started having a problem staying...erect. took a bit to figure out the issue. Once I cut out the pre-workout mix it went away. Its a little embarrassing, especially when I first experienced the issue the first time my girlfriend and was going to have sex, but I'm willing to put my embarrassment out there in the.hopes of helping one of my fellow thfers who may experience the same thing. Just keep it in mind if the issue comes up as a possible cause and easy fix.




what pre-workout was this?

I haven't taken any pre-workout in about 6 years but when I was taking it routinely I was banging my GF like a Drum in the Macy's day parade. I've never heard of any pre-workout causing ED nor known about anyone having problems with it.




edit:

Google searched it and it turns out it is a real side effect. Thats crazy it seems to be common with pre-workouts containing DMAA. Buyer Beware


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: creatine? [Re: txtrophy85] #8262855 05/11/21 05:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,436
M
MacDaddy21 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
M
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,436
Originally Posted by txtrophy85
Originally Posted by Nathan at Fork
Just a quick warning. I was hitting the gym heavy and often last year. Creatine daily and bcaa and a stimulant pre-workout. It would really help by drive in the gym and I could lift heavier and longer. BUT, it came with a side effect I didn't know about. Its called stimdick. Started having a problem staying...erect. took a bit to figure out the issue. Once I cut out the pre-workout mix it went away. Its a little embarrassing, especially when I first experienced the issue the first time my girlfriend and was going to have sex, but I'm willing to put my embarrassment out there in the.hopes of helping one of my fellow thfers who may experience the same thing. Just keep it in mind if the issue comes up as a possible cause and easy fix.




what pre-workout was this?

I haven't taken any pre-workout in about 6 years but when I was taking it routinely I was banging my GF like a Drum in the Macy's day parade. I've never heard of any pre-workout causing ED nor known about anyone having problems with it.







Would be interested in which brand as well. I'm very selective about what pre workout I'll use but I've taken many over the years and never had an issue. I always heard about stimdick from guys who were shooting roids or taking SARMS, both of which have a long list of negative side effects, including ED.

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262859 05/11/21 05:51 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,436
M
MacDaddy21 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
M
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,436
Txtrophy, interesting! One of the best pre-workouts I ever tried was called Mesomorph. It contained DMAA. It was insane stuff, but worked well. I never had any issues with it, but the FDA banned DMAA a short time after I discovered it because some people were having heart issues from excessive dosing. I always followed the directions and did the recommended cleanse period after finishing a container.

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8262925 05/11/21 07:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,387
N
Nathan at Fork Online Happy
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Happy
THF Trophy Hunter
N
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,387
At the time I was taking

Pre-Caged. Preworkout mix
Creatine
BCAA

Cut out the preworkout and it solved the problem. Just something to be aware of if the problem arises(or doesn't arise as the case may be, lol)

Last edited by Nathan at Fork; 05/11/21 07:09 PM.

[Linked Image]
Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8263564 05/12/21 06:08 AM
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 330
G
GNTX Online Content
Bird Dog
Online Content
Bird Dog
G
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 330
Back when I used to lift, I took creatine and noticed that I could get an extra 1 or 2 reps per set. Take that for what it’s worth. As was stated, it forces water into the cells and you do get a nice pump effect from it.

Re: creatine? [Re: kdub] #8264163 05/12/21 06:58 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,042
skinnerback Online Content
THF Celebrity Chef
Online Content
THF Celebrity Chef
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 21,042
I took creatine years ago along with several buddies, don't care for it. As mentioned, due to the way it works your muscles will get pumped up (with water) and you'll make gains....but you'll also lose those gains fast if you don't stay on it.

I prefer to build more solid/lean/stronger (more permanent) muscle mass now vs just big gains. Besides eating right, Frog Fuel is what I use as a pre-workout and for recovery. It's good stuff and it works for me. I have injuries in both shoulders and other places, and I can definitely feel how much better I recover/heal when taking Frog Fuel. Kinda pricey but it made a believer out of me.

Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2019 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3