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Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 02:38 AM
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Gw123
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I know some of y’all have been told or heard some gem dandies. What’s the most ridiculous, idiotic, or down right dumb things you’ve heard from gun counter employees?
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 03:20 AM
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 11:14 AM
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If buying at the counter I know what I want. The person behind the counter is there to begin the transaction, that is all. I don't listen to much they have to say.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 11:22 AM
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I don't buy at the store.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 12:20 PM
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Academy had a good sale on the cheap Model 700 a few years ago, they were under $299.00 I was ready to build a 260 Ackley, and went there to buy one for the action. I asked for any of the on sale models in a short action, and when the deer in the headlight look appeared on the guys face, I said .243 will work. A lecture was started on how it was ok for deer but not hogs. I handed him my LTC and said I came for a rifle, not hunting advise. As he was walking it out of the store, he reminded me I would be disappointed if I hunted hogs with it.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 12:57 PM
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I am reminded of the bumper sticker..... “ Please Take My Advise....I ‘m Not Using It” Sounds like something all political folks use for Covid guidance
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 01:01 PM
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I don't buy at the store. i only buy at one store and it's nearby. They don't offer advice and since I've been buying and selling guns longer the the courter person has been alive that's a good thing.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 01:21 PM
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I'll walk off if they start yacking at me. But I have overhead them telling others some scary/stupid stuff.
'What you need is a 6.5 CM, it's a lot more powerful than a .270 or .308'
'You really can't save any money with handloads because factory ammo is more consistent/powerful. They use special powder that we (the public) can't get.'
'You should buy the 12 gauge. In a pinch, you can shoot 20 ga in a 12, but not the other way around. It's more versatile.'
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 03:01 PM
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I'll walk off if they start yacking at me. But I have overhead them telling others some scary/stupid stuff.
'What you need is a 6.5 CM, it's a lot more powerful than a .270 or .308'
'You really can't save any money with handloads because factory ammo is more consistent/powerful. They use special powder that we (the public) can't get.'
'You should buy the 12 gauge. In a pinch, you can shoot 20 ga in a 12, but not the other way around. It's more versatile.'
That last one is pretty scary for someone who may just be getting into hunting or shooting
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 03:40 PM
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I was once told by the Academy gun-counter guy that elephants are easily killed with a 22lr.
Intrigued....I asked how.
He said you shoot them in one of those “big ole” veins in the ear. The vein then carries the bullet to the heart and stops it.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 03:44 PM
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my favorite was a guy that told me I wanted a 17 HMR for deer hunting. Academy gun counters are the best.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 04:53 PM
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I went to Cabela's to buy my wife a 357 revolver, which she wanted, I didn't pick it out for her but it was gonna be her 18th anniversary gift. The "gentleman" behind the counter began to tell me that a 357 is too much for my wife and I should consider getting her a 38 instead. I asked him how many times he had watched my wife shoot my 44 mag?.?. He then insisted the recoil is much worse in the 357...as he rambled my 16 year old daughter said "daddy this guy knows zero about guns, when are we leaving"? We walked off. I went to Academy told the kid that I deal with regularly my wanted a 357 he laughed and said of she does. She'd go into Academy and buys ammo all the time when we were going to the range and had bought a lot of big bore ammo so he knows she'll shoot anything you hand her.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 05:05 PM
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I went to Cabela's to buy my wife a 357 revolver, which she wanted, I didn't pick it out for her but it was gonna be her 18th anniversary gift. The "gentleman" behind the counter began to tell me that a 357 is too much for my wife and I should consider getting her a 38 instead. I asked him how many times he had watched my wife shoot my 44 mag?.?. He then insisted the recoil is much worse in the 357...as he rambled my 16 year old daughter said "daddy this guy knows zero about guns, when are we leaving"? We walked off. I went to Academy told the kid that I deal with regularly my wanted a 357 he laughed and said of she does. She'd go into Academy and buys ammo all the time when we were going to the range and had bought a lot of big bore ammo so he knows she'll shoot anything you hand her. LOL. My 77 year old Mother still carries her 357 on occasion. I can't remember the exact conversation, but I was at Academy once and overheard a conversation between the counter person and someone who was asking firearm advice. I do remember that the advice was so awful that I stepped in with "I apologize for interrupting, but I overheard your conversation and want to make sure the you get the correct facts..." I should really write these things down when they happen so that I can post them when these threads come up.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 06:44 PM
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I always do my best to research my purchase decisions for big ticket items before I go to the store to buy them. I also believe just about everyone has useful information to share that comes from their own experience. That's also true of salespeople who see a lot of buyers and hear what they have to say about certain products. No matter the situation, you always learn more by asking legitimate questions, rather than trying to come off as the know-it-all. It can lead to answers and useful information that's seldom offered to others. In other words, you can come off as a prick and leave with nothing more than you knew when you came into the store, or you can be respectful and possibly learn something of value that you never thought about.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 06:52 PM
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I always do my best to research my purchase decisions for big ticket items before I go to the store to buy them. I also believe just about everyone has useful information to share that comes from their own experience. That's also true of salespeople who see a lot of buyers and hear what they have to say about certain products. No matter the situation, you always learn more by asking legitimate questions, rather than trying to come off as the know-it-all. It can lead to answers and useful information that's seldom offered to others. In other words, you can come off as a prick and leave with nothing more than you knew when you came into the store, or you can be respectful and possibly learn something of value that you never thought about. Like how to kill an elephant with a .22 by shooting it in a vien? Or that you can indeed shoot 20 shells in a 12 guage in a pinch? Some people just don't need to be giving gun advice. Period.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 07:08 PM
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I always do my best to research my purchase decisions for big ticket items before I go to the store to buy them. I also believe just about everyone has useful information to share that comes from their own experience. That's also true of salespeople who see a lot of buyers and hear what they have to say about certain products. No matter the situation, you always learn more by asking legitimate questions, rather than trying to come off as the know-it-all. It can lead to answers and useful information that's seldom offered to others. In other words, you can come off as a prick and leave with nothing more than you knew when you came into the store, or you can be respectful and possibly learn something of value that you never thought about. Like how to kill an elephant with a .22 by shooting it in a vien? Or that you can indeed shoot 20 shells in a 12 guage in a pinch? Some people just don't need to be giving gun advice. Period. There's a lot more useful information about buying a gun than what you know about the gun itself. What goes on behind the scenes in any business can be very useful for a multitude of reasons. This is especially true during today's shortages guns, ammo, and so many things. I've had clerks tell me when something is about to go on sale, or when new stock is set to arrive. Do you think they're going to offer that information to someone who comes off as a prick?
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 07:39 PM
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I always do my best to research my purchase decisions for big ticket items before I go to the store to buy them. I also believe just about everyone has useful information to share that comes from their own experience. That's also true of salespeople who see a lot of buyers and hear what they have to say about certain products. No matter the situation, you always learn more by asking legitimate questions, rather than trying to come off as the know-it-all. It can lead to answers and useful information that's seldom offered to others. In other words, you can come off as a prick and leave with nothing more than you knew when you came into the store, or you can be respectful and possibly learn something of value that you never thought about. Like how to kill an elephant with a .22 by shooting it in a vien? Or that you can indeed shoot 20 shells in a 12 guage in a pinch? Some people just don't need to be giving gun advice. Period. There's a lot more useful information about buying a gun than what you know about the gun itself. What goes on behind the scenes in any business can be very useful for a multitude of reasons. This is especially true during today's shortages guns, ammo, and so many things. I've had clerks tell me when something is about to go on sale, or when new stock is set to arrive. Do you think they're going to offer that information to someone who comes off as a prick? No. I would not recommend coming off as a prick, but when terrible, inept and blatently false info comes out of the mouth of a clerk, it should be corrected. If that makes me a prick, than I'm a prick.
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Re: Gun counter advise
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04/27/21 07:45 PM
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I have heard all kinds of crap over the years, but I decided long ago to not interfere. If someone is lapping up bad advice, I just let them. How could I possibly know more than an expert at the gun bar.
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04/27/21 08:08 PM
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I have heard all kinds of crap over the years, but I decided long ago to not interfere. If someone is lapping up bad advice, I just let them. How could I possibly know more than an expert at the gun bar. Let's say that you were a newbie gun owner and just bought your first pistol. Let's say it is a 9mm M&P. And the gun counter guy points you towards the 9mm makarov ammo and says "this will work in your gun. 9mm is 9mm. It's all the ammo we have right now". Would you want the experienced guy that overhears the conversation to speak up?
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04/27/21 08:22 PM
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I have heard all kinds of crap over the years, but I decided long ago to not interfere. If someone is lapping up bad advice, I just let them. How could I possibly know more than an expert at the gun bar. Let's say that you were a newbie gun owner and just bought your first pistol. Let's say it is a 9mm M&P. And the gun counter guy points you towards the 9mm makarov ammo and says "this will work in your gun. 9mm is 9mm. It's all the ammo we have right now". Would you want the experienced guy that overhears the conversation to speak up? The problem is the word "experienced." I've seen plenty of "experienced" gun owners the don't know crap. The noob will also generally end up taking the word of the gun store guy over the random guy in the gun store. It tends to be a waste of breath. Plus if you can't read 9 Luger on the side of your pistol and understand that nine Makarov is not the same thing, maybe you should do a little research. If random gun Noob ask me, I will give them the correct answer though. But many times people just take advice of who they think they should take the advice from, there's no real helping those people LOL
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04/27/21 08:28 PM
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Do you think coming off as a know-it-all will encourage the guy behind the counter to bring out a second model of the rifle you're buying so you can see which wood stock you like better?
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04/27/21 10:31 PM
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Do you think coming off as a know-it-all will encourage the guy behind the counter to bring out a second model of the rifle you're buying so you can see which wood stock you like better? If they want to sell a gun they will. If not, he aint the only game in town. I'm not sure why you are so adamant about defending the BS that "gun bar" guys spew to customers who may or may not know any different. What has been said so far about what has been overheard borders on needin an arse whoopin.
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04/27/21 10:41 PM
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I have heard all kinds of crap over the years, but I decided long ago to not interfere. If someone is lapping up bad advice, I just let them. How could I possibly know more than an expert at the gun bar. Let's say that you were a newbie gun owner and just bought your first pistol. Let's say it is a 9mm M&P. And the gun counter guy points you towards the 9mm makarov ammo and says "this will work in your gun. 9mm is 9mm. It's all the ammo we have right now". Would you want the experienced guy that overhears the conversation to speak up? The problem is the word "experienced." I've seen plenty of "experienced" gun owners the don't know crap. The noob will also generally end up taking the word of the gun store guy over the random guy in the gun store. It tends to be a waste of breath. Plus if you can't read 9 Luger on the side of your pistol and understand that nine Makarov is not the same thing, maybe you should do a little research. If random gun Noob ask me, I will give them the correct answer though. But many times people just take advice of who they think they should take the advice from, there's no real helping those people LOL Or maybe speaking up will cause the guy behind the counter to question himself and then do research to find the correct answer. To each his own. I'll still speak up if I hear blatantly bad advice. Now if it is advice that can be subjective but I disagree with, like 380 is better then 9mm, I will usually keep my mouth shut.
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04/27/21 11:35 PM
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I was told once at Cabelas that I couldn’t purchase a handgun since I lived in Japan. Even though I'm a Texas resident and my Texas ID said so. I was home visiting from Japan, it wasn’t my first gun I bought while being over seas. The guy was serious about my residency being Japan, I informed him about my home of record being Texas. Nothing worked, so just gave up and went to a local store and bought the same gun.
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04/28/21 12:00 AM
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Or maybe speaking up will cause the guy behind the counter to question himself and then do research to find the correct answer.
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