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It's much closer than we might believe #8246845 04/23/21 09:13 PM
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While it's currently illegal in 38 states, there appears to be evidence, at least to me, that internet hunting could be something that hunters will demand in the future. After all, we're already seeing practices in the field that leverage a great deal of technology and mechanical assistance to shoot deer.

I just happened across a show on one of the outdoor channels where an able-bodied guy was using a tripod and specialized gun vise to hold and steady his rifle when shooting a deer. Now if you ask me, he might just as well been looking at the screen of his phone and pushing a button to make that shot. It would only seem logical that as this type of setup becomes more commonplace, there will be those who want to take it to the next logical step through internet hunting. IMHO, the only difference in these two setups is the physical presence of the shooter.

Is it time we put the brakes on the progression towards internet hunting by putting restrictions on what equipment able-bodied people can use to shoot wild game?

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We do not suffer from a shortage of laws; we don't need more. IMHO few people would choose to hunt via automation, fewer still by remote control.

Carried to its logical conclusion the next step after internet hunting is just ordering a packaged venison roast from Walmart with delivery.

Hunting is more than pulling a trigger.

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This subject came up in Texas several years back and I believe there were laws passed banning it. There were legal issues with hunting license, tagging the animal, wildlife resource documents, and other things that couldnt be overcome without the hunter present at the time of the kill.

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Originally Posted by JCB
This subject came up in Texas several years back and I believe there were laws passed banning it. There were legal issues with hunting license, tagging the animal, wildlife resource documents, and other things that couldnt be overcome without the hunter present at the time of the kill.


I remember that coming up. I believe this rule came from that

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use a computer, or operate a facility that uses a computer, to assist in remote firearm or archery hunting, if the animal being hunted is located in Texas.


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Originally Posted by Simple Searcher
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This subject came up in Texas several years back and I believe there were laws passed banning it. There were legal issues with hunting license, tagging the animal, wildlife resource documents, and other things that couldnt be overcome without the hunter present at the time of the kill.


I remember that coming up. I believe this rule came from that

Unlawful Activities
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use a computer, or operate a facility that uses a computer, to assist in remote firearm or archery hunting, if the animal being hunted is located in Texas.


Yep thats it. Another issue was with wounded animals. The animal would obviously have to be tracked by someone other than the hunter. That means if another shot is required to finish the animal there is that grey area of who actually killed it and who tags it. It was a can of worms that TP&W didnt want to open and I dont blame them.

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All around bad idea and Im glad TPWD banned it.


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What’s the difference in using a tripod in the field or a bipod while prone? Or even sitting in a blind with some sort of rest or bipod to take a shot on deer? I don’t think too many people are making free handed shots. People use many methods to steady their rifles while hunting.

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Be a chore to retrieve the animal anyways.....


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Originally Posted by Texas Dan

I just happened across a show on one of the outdoor channels where an able-bodied guy was using a tripod and specialized gun vise to hold and steady his rifle when shooting a deer. Now if you ask me, he might just as well been looking at the screen of his phone and pushing a button to make that shot.


You’re mad because a guy took the a responsible position to be more accurate by using a solid rest there for having a higher probability of a clean kill, thus meaning he held the animal life with a high degree of respect

And you taught Hunter ED.....


Your post couldn’t get more idiotic, I hope you didn’t tell your students they also shouldn’t use a solid rest and do everything they can do to have the highest probability of a clean ethical kill






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confused2 internet hunting ?


nidea hmmm, solution ta the hog problems in texas...


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by Texas Dan

I just happened across a show on one of the outdoor channels where an able-bodied guy was using a tripod and specialized gun vise to hold and steady his rifle when shooting a deer. Now if you ask me, he might just as well been looking at the screen of his phone and pushing a button to make that shot.


You’re mad because a guy took the a responsible position to be more accurate by using a solid rest there for having a higher probability of a clean kill, thus meaning he held the animal life with a high degree of respect

And you taught Hunter ED.....


Your post couldn’t get more idiotic, I hope you didn’t tell your students they also shouldn’t use a solid rest and do everything they can do to have the highest probability of a clean ethical kill


Your comments remind me of how bow hunters once began foaming at the mouth at the very mention of making cross bows legal for anyone during bow season. It made no difference in the end. That too was a change to make it easier to kill a deer.

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remote hunting was outlawed around 10 years ago after a outfit offered it and a few people shot deer via remote control. Its not a new idea, actually its quite old.


But I can understand the original point.

I see people using a tripod with a vice that holds the gun stone still and pretty much reduces them to just pulling the trigger and can't help but feel that its a pretty big crutch they are using there. With kids and handicapped people I'm all for it, but imo, and its just my opinion, that an able bodied person should have a level of marksmanship in the field that will allow him to make ethical and clean kills from field positions. I'll use a set of sticks when hunting but that's about it. I personally refuse to employ a quad pod with a vice to shoot a game animal, i don't care how steady it makes me.

Kind of like a draw lock ( or a crossbow for that matter )......makes it alot easier to kill an animal because most people get busted on the draw. I've killed enough animals that I do enjoy the challenge. If someone wants to use it great, but it goes against my personal code of ethics at the moment.


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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
While it's currently illegal in 38 states, there appears to be evidence, at least to me, that internet hunting could be something that hunters will demand in the future. After all, we're already seeing practices in the field that leverage a great deal of technology and mechanical assistance to shoot deer.

I just happened across a show on one of the outdoor channels where an able-bodied guy was using a tripod and specialized gun vise to hold and steady his rifle when shooting a deer. Now if you ask me, he might just as well been looking at the screen of his phone and pushing a button to make that shot. It would only seem logical that as this type of setup becomes more commonplace, there will be those who want to take it to the next logical step through internet hunting. IMHO, the only difference in these two setups is the physical presence of the shooter.

Is it time we put the brakes on the progression towards internet hunting by putting restrictions on what equipment able-bodied people can use to shoot wild game?


Using a rest is what a smart hunter should do because you owe it to the animal to take the best possible shot. If the hunting method is legal then don't worry about what other people are doing.

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Originally Posted by Choctaw
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Using a rest is what a smart hunter should do because you owe it to the animal to take the best possible shot. If the hunting method is legal then don't worry about what other people are doing.


What he is talking about is not really a rest, it’s more mechanical than a simple set of sticks or a bipod.

While I would never vote to make them illegal or even feel it’s unethical ( I hold what’s ethical in much higher regard than I do what’s legal) it’s one of those things that makes you think to yourself “ is this really challenging “ ?


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The military has been successfully using this technology for years. They have a different purpose and no need for retrieval.

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Originally Posted by colt.45


nidea hmmm, solution ta the hog problems in texas...


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There's definitely not must distance between the remotely-controlled trapping pen that's becoming increasingly common, and using the same core technology to aim and shoot firearm. Given today's enormous video game crowd, there are those who would see a lot of entertainment value in the later.

The way things are going these days, all it takes is enough people pushing hard enough to get laws changed so they can have practically anything they want. No question, the TPWD and other wildlife agencies have tried to get ahead of the issue. But again, as people get more accustomed to easier tactics and seeing more dollar signs, who knows what the future holds.


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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
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I just happened across a show on one of the outdoor channels where an able-bodied guy was using a tripod and specialized gun vise to hold and steady his rifle when shooting a deer. Now if you ask me, he might just as well been looking at the screen of his phone and pushing a button to make that shot.


You’re mad because a guy took the a responsible position to be more accurate by using a solid rest there for having a higher probability of a clean kill, thus meaning he held the animal life with a high degree of respect

And you taught Hunter ED.....


Your post couldn’t get more idiotic, I hope you didn’t tell your students they also shouldn’t use a solid rest and do everything they can do to have the highest probability of a clean ethical kill


Your comments remind me of how bow hunters once began foaming at the mouth at the very mention of making cross bows legal for anyone during bow season. It made no difference in the end. That too was a change to make it easier to kill a deer.


I stand corrected, you just topped you previously most ignorant post.

You compared a rest to a weapon... tripods for weapons can be tracked back to the Ming dynasty ... of China from 1368 to 1644.. Guess what they also had in Ming Dynasty.. cross bows..

650 years later you think it’s ONLY sporting if use DO NOT use a rest.. the hell with individual efforts in making the most ethical shot you can

I can’t believe you taught kids Hunters ED. Unbelievable


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Using a rest is what a smart hunter should do because you owe it to the animal to take the best possible shot. If the hunting method is legal then don't worry about what other people are doing.


What he is talking about is not really a rest, it’s more mechanical than a simple set of sticks or a bipod.

While I would never vote to make them illegal or even feel it’s unethical ( I hold what’s ethical in much higher regard than I do what’s legal) it’s one of those things that makes you think to yourself “ is this really challenging “ ?




No, all tripods function the same, wether its tension on the gun between two/three yucca stems, a magnet, or tension from a metal or plastic vise, which is also how bipods work.. it’s all the same...



It’s unbelievable Someone would chastise people for using a tripod or a bipod. I can’t phantom why top accuracy’s from ones ability, now isn’t the goal


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by Texas Dan
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan

I just happened across a show on one of the outdoor channels where an able-bodied guy was using a tripod and specialized gun vise to hold and steady his rifle when shooting a deer. Now if you ask me, he might just as well been looking at the screen of his phone and pushing a button to make that shot.


You’re mad because a guy took the a responsible position to be more accurate by using a solid rest there for having a higher probability of a clean kill, thus meaning he held the animal life with a high degree of respect

And you taught Hunter ED.....


Your post couldn’t get more idiotic, I hope you didn’t tell your students they also shouldn’t use a solid rest and do everything they can do to have the highest probability of a clean ethical kill


Your comments remind me of how bow hunters once began foaming at the mouth at the very mention of making cross bows legal for anyone during bow season. It made no difference in the end. That too was a change to make it easier to kill a deer.


I stand corrected, you just topped you previously most ignorant post.

You compared a rest to a weapon... tripods for weapons can be tracked back to the Ming dynasty ... of China from 1368 to 1644.. Guess what they also had in Ming Dynasty.. cross bows..

650 years later you think it’s ONLY sporting if use DO NOT use a rest.. the hell with individual efforts in making the most ethical shot you can

I can’t believe you taught kids Hunters ED. Unbelievable


The amazing part in all of this I’d you’re just now figuring it out. The ONLY reason I clicked this post was because you were the last to post and I hoped you told ole Trashcan Dan, exactly what you did. Thanks! lol35


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Juddly is correct in this case, and I ablsolutely hate to admit that and the only reason I clicked it is becase he was the last reply rofl


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So bipod/tripod now equals autonomous or removed hunting? Dan, you need to find a bridge to live under. Next thing you know, you should only freehand your rifle -- heaven forbid you rest it on your tripod/blind/rock/tree

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This is literally the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on here, BOBO is dead nuts on with everything he said and nothing more needs to be added. The old saying you can’t fix stupid seems appropriate in this instance, scratch

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I mean I mean why even use a rifle? That’s too much of an advantage. Let’s go back to sticks and stones to make it real hunting. If that’s too much let’s just get rid of optics and go to only fixed iron sights on a rifle

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I have achieved levels of stupid many do not read right, but I think we can all agree trash can dan won the T shirt for dumbest post of the year so far.


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