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Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/23/21 04:22 PM
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Homer Jay
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Read they are searching an area where an oil slick was spotted. Said oil could be from ruptured fuel tank or the crew could have dumped the fuel to decrease weight and surface the sub.
MY QUESTION: WILL FUEL OIL ON A SUB MAKE IT MORE BUOYANT OR LESS?
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: Homer Jay]
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04/23/21 04:38 PM
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pdr55
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They probably blew the fuel out with pressurized air to gain buoyancy. Doesn’t sound good for the crew of that boat.
If you`re running down my country, man, You`re walking on the fighting side of me. (Merle)
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: Homer Jay]
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04/23/21 05:14 PM
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They think the submarine is lying well below crush depth.
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: Homer Jay]
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04/23/21 05:29 PM
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They changed location of sub and this new location depth is 184 to 385 feet. If they dump fuel oil (with compressed air) the sub buoyancy will be more positive. But this compress air is also used to blow ballast tanks water to surface and keep the ship on level keel. Don't want to use it all up. Great Depth will rapidly use up compressed air to surface. Its a German made diesel electric. Don't know what the oil slick means but wish the best.
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: Homer Jay]
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04/23/21 05:29 PM
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: Homer Jay]
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04/23/21 05:59 PM
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jeh7mmmag
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Update on information. The navy said it believes that the submarine sank to a depth of 600 to 700 meters (2,000 to 2,300 feet), much deeper than its collapse depth, at which water pressure would be greater than the hull could withstand. The vessel's collapse depth was estimated at 200 meters (655 feet) by a South Korean company that refitted the vessel in from 2009 to 2012. Or below?
�Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul.� ~ John Muir
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/23/21 08:57 PM
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Maybe they dumped it to make an oil slick so someone can find them.
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: Homer Jay]
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04/26/21 11:06 AM
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Looks like they went to crush depth and imploded the vessel. Found it on the bottom in three pieces by DSRV in 2600 ft. water depth. No survivors. May they RIP.
If you`re running down my country, man, You`re walking on the fighting side of me. (Merle)
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: Homer Jay]
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04/26/21 11:39 AM
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/26/21 11:43 AM
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Man, that would be a terrible way to go. RIP
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/26/21 11:44 AM
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I served on two WWII diesel electric boats (USS Diodon and USS Charr) and my prayers go out to the crew and their family members.
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/26/21 12:08 PM
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: Homer Jay]
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04/26/21 12:20 PM
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Sad news. Wonder if they'll attempt to raise it to determine the cause or leave it as a grave? Pretty deep for a salvage but not technically impossible - purely expensive.
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/26/21 06:24 PM
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/26/21 10:26 PM
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I had read where there was suspicion that the Chinese might have sunk it.
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/26/21 10:30 PM
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: mikei]
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04/26/21 10:34 PM
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I served on two WWII diesel electric boats (USS Diodon and USS Charr) and my prayers go out to the crew and their family members. Was the Indonesian sub one of our old diesel electric boats, or was it purchased from another country? Just my curious .02, LeonCarr
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/26/21 10:35 PM
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I believe russian from the 70s retrofitted by south korea
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/26/21 10:39 PM
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"Whitetail Deer are extinct because of rifles with telescopes mounted on them." - My 11th Grade English Teacher
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: Homer Jay]
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04/26/21 10:42 PM
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I'd read it was German built. Commissioned and bought by the Indonesian Navy back in the '80's.
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/26/21 10:50 PM
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I'd read it was German built. Commissioned and bought by the Indonesian Navy back in the '80's. correct The German-built submarine, which has been in service in Indonesia since 1981, was rehearsing for a missile-firing exercise that was to take place on Thursday. Tjahjanto and other military leaders were to attend.https://news.yahoo.com/indonesian-military-says-submarine-missing-113530997.html
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/27/21 03:12 AM
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RIP brothers of the dolphins.
I qualified in submarines January 1975.
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
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04/27/21 01:23 PM
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mikei
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RIP brothers of the dolphins.
I qualified in submarines January 1975. I qualified in '62; what boat(s) did you serve on?
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Re: Missing Indonesian Submarine
[Re: mikei]
#8249891
04/27/21 03:56 PM
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RIP brothers of the dolphins.
I qualified in submarines January 1975. I qualified in '62; what boat(s) did you serve on? Scorpion and Thresher era! I qualified 3 Steurgeon class fast attacks in the 1970’s.
If you`re running down my country, man, You`re walking on the fighting side of me. (Merle)
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