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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 05:52 PM
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Manslaughter conviction? I hate to say it but I think this is what they will come back with.Any conviction will get him an appeal,thanks to maxine's comments.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 05:53 PM
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Manslaughter conviction? I hate to say it but I think this is what they will come back with.Any conviction will get him an appeal,thanks to maxine's comments. and if it's not murder2 the city will burn.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 05:58 PM
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They'll riot in Austin...Just because.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 06:01 PM
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"As jurors, you are being asked to make an important decision in this case," the judge said yesterday.
He outlined four key things the jury will need to do as they deliberate:
"One, take the time you need to reflect carefully and thoughtfully about the evidence."
"Two, think about why you are making the decision you are making and examine it for bias and reconsider your first impressions of the people and the evidence in this case and if the people involved in this case were from different backgrounds, for example, richer or poorer, more or less educated, older or younger or of a different gender, gender identity, race, religion or sexual orientation, would you still view them any evidence the same way?
"Three, listen to one another. You must carefully evaluate the evidence and resist, and help each other resist, any urge to reach a verdict imposed by biased for or against any party or witness. Each of you have different backgrounds and will be viewing this case in light of your own insights, assumptions and biases. Listening to different perspectives may help you to better identify the possible effects these hidden biases may have on decision making."
"Four, resist jumping to conclusions based on personal likes or dislikes. Generalizations, gut feelings, prejudices, sympathies, stereotypes or unconscious biases."
The judge noted that "in order for you to return a verdict, whether guilty or not, each juror must agree with that verdict. Your verdict must be unanimous. You should discuss this case with one another and deliberate with a view towards reaching an agreement."
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 06:07 PM
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Manslaughter conviction? I hate to say it but I think this is what they will come back with.Any conviction will get him an appeal,thanks to maxine's comments. and if it's not murder2 the city will burn. Probably so; the protestors are too stupid to differentiate between murder and manslaughter. They will easily be whipped up and manipulated by MSM and social media to think anything less than a murder conviction is 'not guilty'.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 07:34 PM
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I'm hearing they've reached a verdict. waiting for a link.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 07:37 PM
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The jury has reached a verdict in the Derek Chauvin trial. It will be announced between 3:30 p.m. and 4p.m. local time.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 07:38 PM
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WOW...that was quick. I expected them to debate the rest of the week.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 07:40 PM
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WOW...that was quick. I expected them to debate the rest of the week. I would say that favors the prosecution, but you never know.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 07:44 PM
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If it was just the two murder charges, I think you might get a hung jury. Since the DA threw in the manslaughter charge, they gave the jury an out. It may take a day or so while the other jurors try to get the one or two holdouts up to the murder charge. However, in the end, they will fall back to manslaughter. If I was the foreman on the jury, the first thing I would have done is had a vote on each charge just to see where everyone has landed. That's what we did on a murder case I was on about 10 years ago. We also had the manslaughter/murder option. Initial vote was 12/12 on manslaughter, 10/12 on murder. About an hour later, it was 12/12 on the murder charge.
As other have said, no matter what, many cities will burn afterwards.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 07:50 PM
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My bet is Manslaughter...
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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Didn't feel like editing my previous post. If they are coming back this quick, they found him guilty of something and I don't think it's going to be manslaughter. I think it's going to be Murder 3 at this point.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 08:39 PM
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He said. She said. Is Bill trying to incite a riot ?, just sayin he he Bill is a Riot Speaking of... where did he run off to
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 09:08 PM
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Found guilty of all three charges !!!
What a crock of crap !
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 09:11 PM
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Guilty on all 3 charges!!! Facts matter.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 09:16 PM
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I bet lots of thugs are mad there will be no riots tonight, guess they will have to wait for that color TV.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 09:22 PM
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Guilty on all 3 charges!!! Facts matter. you're correct that focker deserved it
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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he was always going to walk. its why they are using this case. The politicians are going to use the case to start the summer of love. You can see it a mile away. The rioters have already been paid for and ready to go
The war is real the news is fake. Tin are you batting about 10 on the decade? Gotta give it to you. You never give up on being wrong.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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Can we consolidate all these threads?
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 09:40 PM
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he was always going to walk. its why they are using this case. The politicians are going to use the case to start the summer of love. You can see it a mile away. The rioters have already been paid for and ready to go
The war is real the news is fake. Tin are you batting about 10 on the decade? Gotta give it to you. You never give up on being wrong. Not even speaking to his guilt but this is far from over. The judge kicked the can yesterday stating that there was already grounds for appeal because of Maxine stupid mouth. The judge and the jurors both kicked the can for that matter.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 09:47 PM
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he was always going to walk. its why they are using this case. The politicians are going to use the case to start the summer of love. You can see it a mile away. The rioters have already been paid for and ready to go
The war is real the news is fake. Tin are you batting about 10 on the decade? Gotta give it to you. You never give up on being wrong.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 09:55 PM
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he was always going to walk. its why they are using this case. The politicians are going to use the case to start the summer of love. You can see it a mile away. The rioters have already been paid for and ready to go
The war is real the news is fake. Tin are you batting about 10 on the decade? Gotta give it to you. You never give up on being wrong. Not even speaking to his guilt but this is far from over. The judge kicked the can yesterday stating that there was already grounds for appeal because of Maxine stupid mouth. The judge and the jurors both kicked the can for that matter. Don’t believe that he said there was already grounds. Believe he said it could be possible. There is a difference.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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04/20/21 10:17 PM
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Well, at least POTUS commented on the verdict, before there was a verdict. What. An. IDIOT.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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Well he got what he had coming, enjoy prison.
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Re: Reasonable Doubt........??
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Well he got what he had coming, enjoy prison.
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