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Re: Reasonable Doubt........?? [Re: hookem48] #8243300 04/20/21 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hookem48
Guilty. Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck (handcuffed) for 9 minutes. That's not reasonable regardless of the crime.


Is the kneeling on the neck what killed him? And it has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Hard to do when he has a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

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Regaurdless of the verdict the city will burn, not convicted or not found guilty of a harsh enough crime. Folks have been given into so much they know all they have to do is riot to get their way


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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
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Guilty. Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck (handcuffed) for 9 minutes. That's not reasonable regardless of the crime.


Is the kneeling on the neck what killed him? And it has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Hard to do when he has a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

Lethal dose? I didn't hear that argued effectively in the trial. Maybe I missed that. bang

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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
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Guilty. Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck (handcuffed) for 9 minutes. That's not reasonable regardless of the crime.



false statement. don't spread fud.

How is it false?

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Regaurdless of the verdict the city will burn, not convicted or not found guilty of a harsh enough crime. Folks have been given into so much they know all they have to do is riot to get their way

Agreed!

Re: Reasonable Doubt........?? [Re: hookem48] #8243322 04/20/21 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hookem48
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Guilty. Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck (handcuffed) for 9 minutes. That's not reasonable regardless of the crime.



false statement. don't spread fud.

How is it false?


it was proven false in court. facts matter.


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Re: Reasonable Doubt........?? [Re: hookem48] #8243329 04/20/21 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hookem48
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Guilty. Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck (handcuffed) for 9 minutes. That's not reasonable regardless of the crime.



false statement. don't spread fud.

How is it false?


You really haven't had time to review the info in the trial have you? Lol


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Re: Reasonable Doubt........?? [Re: bigbob_ftw] #8243330 04/20/21 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
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Guilty. Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck (handcuffed) for 9 minutes. That's not reasonable regardless of the crime.



false statement. don't spread fud.

How is it false?


it was proven false in court. facts matter.

What was proven in court, the jury is still out. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy. 9 minutes +

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Guilty. Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck (handcuffed) for 9 minutes. That's not reasonable regardless of the crime.



false statement. don't spread fud.

How is it false?


You really haven't had time to review the info in the trial have you? Lol


Actually, I have. Have you? Lol.

Re: Reasonable Doubt........?? [Re: Buzzsaw] #8243334 04/20/21 03:25 PM
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What was proven in court, the jury is still out. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy. 9 minutes +



your clueless. the body cam showed the cop on his back, not his neck. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy.


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Re: Reasonable Doubt........?? [Re: bigbob_ftw] #8243339 04/20/21 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
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What was proven in court, the jury is still out. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy. 9 minutes +



your clueless. the body cam showed the cop on his back, not his neck. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy.

Oh, I get it...... You're so smart. Do you feel what Chauvin did was reasonable?

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Re: Reasonable Doubt........?? [Re: hookem48] #8243342 04/20/21 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hookem48
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What was proven in court, the jury is still out. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy. 9 minutes +



your clueless. the body cam showed the cop on his back, not his neck. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy.

Oh, I get it...... You're so smart. Do you feel what Chauvin did was reasonable?


I believe what Chauvin did is not a crime and thanks for the complement. i


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Originally Posted by hookem48
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What was proven in court, the jury is still out. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy. 9 minutes +



your clueless. the body cam showed the cop on his back, not his neck. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy.

Oh, I get it...... You're so smart. Do you feel what Chauvin did was reasonable?


First of all you know I respect you for being a Longhorn 100%.

But Chauvin being an a hole doesn't equate to murder.

Also the state's witness testified, and in cross-examination admitted that if she hadn't seen the video she would have ruled floyd's death an overdose. He had lethal amount of fentanyl in his system, and Fentanyl stops the respiratory system when taken in large doses.

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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
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What was proven in court, the jury is still out. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy. 9 minutes +



your clueless. the body cam showed the cop on his back, not his neck. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy.

Oh, I get it...... You're so smart. Do you feel what Chauvin did was reasonable?


First of all you know I respect you for being a Longhorn 100%.

But Chauvin being an a hole doesn't equate to murder.

Also the state's witness testified, and in cross-examination admitted that if she hadn't seen the video she would have ruled floyd's death an overdose. He had lethal amount of fentanyl in his system, and Fentanyl stops the respiratory system when taken in large doses.


Hey, this is just a discussion and I'm glad there is a place for it. Agreed that it doesn't equate to murder, but that's why there were so many different charges levied against Chauvin. We shall see.

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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
Originally Posted by hookem48


What was proven in court, the jury is still out. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy. 9 minutes +



your clueless. the body cam showed the cop on his back, not his neck. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy.


I think you're blind or maybe you need to upgrade to a modern TV (tube and glass TV is not working for you). He was clearly kneeling on the neck. I'm not saying that's what killed him though.


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What was proven in court, the jury is still out. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy. 9 minutes +



your clueless. the body cam showed the cop on his back, not his neck. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy.


I think you're blind or maybe you need to upgrade to a modern TV (tube and glass TV is not working for you). He was clearly kneeling on the neck. I'm not saying that's what killed him though.


You are incorrect. look at the court transcript. It's clearly been refuted.


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According to the definition of the charges, if Chauvin was contributory to his death, even if he wasn't the cause of death, he should be guilty. If he was "perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." I think that's pretty obvious based on the fact he did not render aid, turn him over, and continued to unnecessarily restrain him after he was unconscious and pulseless....even after being begged by bystanders to help him. Or for the second degree manslaughter charge, they only have to show that he was negligent and took an "unreasonable risk" with Floyd's life when he restrained him and that his actions put Floyd at risk of death....again, pretty obvious. Regardless what the cause of death was (I believe it was multi-factorial), I think Chauvin contributed to it.

So he's guilty, IMO, I would vote to convict. I hope he goes to prison.

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What was proven in court, the jury is still out. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy. 9 minutes +



your clueless. the body cam showed the cop on his back, not his neck. You can find the video anywhere. Do some research buddy.


I think you're blind or maybe you need to upgrade to a modern TV (tube and glass TV is not working for you). He was clearly kneeling on the neck. I'm not saying that's what killed him though.


You are incorrect. look at the court transcript. It's clearly been refuted.


of course the defense is trying to "refute" the video. the jury will ultimately decide, not you or I!


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Was there any evidence presented that actually proved his knee was actually on the neck?......bruising, only angle I saw might provide for reasonable doubt if the defense hammered that point.

Did the defense do enough on the impact of the different drugs in his system and their combined effect with physical exertion ? Reasonable doubt that the "pressure on neck" was solely responsible for death.

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Was there any evidence presented that actually proved his knee was actually on the neck?......bruising, only angle I saw might provide for reasonable doubt if the defense hammered that point.

Did the defense do enough on the impact of the different drugs in his system and their combined effect with physical exertion ? Reasonable doubt that the "pressure on neck" was solely responsible for death.

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there was bruising on his shoulders, but not the neck.


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