The wife and I worked to put me through college. She was at Safeway and I worked in a plywood plant. Between school (Chemical Engineering) and the plywood plant, I still don’t know when I slept. Took 5 years to get through, but we never borrowed a cent. Those were lean years. And then I was in a real engineering job, really learning how to be an engineer. Being an engineer at an Aluminum plant is way different from being one at an oil refinery or a chemical plant.

It was very interesting, over the years, finding that most people don’t have a clue what engineers do or why they make relatively high salaries. It was certainly a sore point with the union guys in the oil refinery that I wore a tie to work and was younger than most of them and far younger than some of them. They never got, and I never told them, what the differences were between what I did and what they did, and why what I did was so much more valuable to the corporation than what they did.

Though I didn’t borrow any money to become a Chemical Engineer, it would have been worth it anyway. We paid for our youngest daughter to also become a ChemE, and she married a ChemE who had debt. They paid it off and have since made a ton of money, bought a 4100 sq ft house and drive German cars. And they put aside the necessary funds to educate both their kids, or at least most of that money.

The people that bad mouth engineers aren’t engineers. And since this is about student debt, borrow the money if you need to, but pay it back.

Half the people who demand student loan debt cancellation are sending $10 a month and a middle finger on $50k+ anyway, they just want to make it official.

We went in debt, worked extra, sold off stuff, to pay for college for ourselves, then for our son.

I tried to get student loan to go back to law school about 20 years ago.... I was not qualified due to race/gender.

I say we HELP reduce some of the burden, if they GRADUATE, and serve in a public service area, such as teachers, cops, firefighters, EMS, military, public healthcare, etc..... other than that, you changed your major 6 times, flunked out twice, never graduated.... Nah....

The plan I have for my kids is that they take out loans to pay for their school or they can pay it themselves as they go if they chose to do so. But I will take on the loan debt and pay it off if they graduate. If they play around and don't graduate then the burden is on them.

There's a lot of scholarship money that's available outside the funds dedicated to those with economic hardships, but you have to apply directly to the department to get it. Based on what I learned when my daughters got numerous scholarships by following this route, it seemed to me the goal of the departments was to identify students that are going to excel and improve the reputation of the program, not to mention become better alumni. These are scholarships where academic performance is the primary focus, and in many cases, the sole focus. The ability of the kid to write outstanding application letters that highlight their efforts inside and outside the classroom is paramount.

This is all crapola to me. Every single dad gum bit of it. Paid for my college education working full time schedules mostly at bars. Picked up additional labor jobs during Christmas and other breaks. Parents did allow me to use their car, but that was the extent of their financial assistance. I never took out a loan. Four years into it, I got married to a Wifeypoo who had been utilizing debt. Put an end to that mess and then graduated upon the completion of my fifth year.

Got out and immediately started working to build a future. Was gifted with three darling daughters. Told the 1st one I would pay for everything as long as she maintained 3.0 or higher. She graduated in five years with a combined undergraduate & masters degree from TU in the Peoples' Republic of Austin. The other two were tall like their dad, hit hard like Wifeypoo and got athletic scholarships. We provided cars and paid for their living expenses.

Without an inheritance, I have paid for five educations without loans - that's because it is what I wanted and found the way to do it. Now people want something and want others to pay for it. I get incentivizing studies if society benefits from a certain course study without the capitalist system providing an avenue, but this forgiveness stuff is, plain & simple, BS.

Getting $50k for desiring a college education means I should get $250k. A whole lotta baloneyness.

I find it interesting how so many people are against it, not for the reason of you signed up for it so you pay what you owe, but rather they are upset they wouldn't benefit as well.

How many are against the stimulus?

I sure know I am. BUT if they are going to give away money I want mine too.

My hero, thank you for your sacrifice.

The only folks who I think have any kind of legitimate claim are those that were suckered by the for-profit business colleges who touted the benefits of a real college degree, yet delivered really nothing more than an unaccredited certificate of completion.

For all of the whiners with Philosophy/History/etc degrees that ran up a $50k+ debt, they need to revoke their degrees given they obviously learned nothing for the time they spent there.

Charlie

110% against stimulus unless it’s an across the board future tax break that also corresponds to the equivalent loose in fed spending/funding.

As far as the current topic it’s an appeasement/voter capture program, that will be funded by all taxpayers from now until their estates are settled at death.


The crazy part is when you look at it deeply, it’s essentially a wealth tax since most lower income levels are gifted a larger portions of grants (pell etc) for education. Factor in we have a progressive tax schedule and the burden is placed on those that took their education seriously.


Every college has a scholarship program anyone can donate to. By their own free choice

this program helps to further secure the younger, white apologist vote.

Can't we just have an AI virtual robot teach this liberal art crap online? Get your social worker degree for $2,999. Hell it's just programming anyway.

Covid actually proved this approach works

Careful for what we wish for. AI stands to put a lot of people out of jobs.

You dam right Chevy.............I don't care if you make 10 billion a day..........I want that money too. I freaking sure paid into it like a lot didn't.


I had no student debt but I dam sure want a break if its given to everyone else.

And make 40K a year. Do the math instead of post counting every GD thread Oxner. It does not make sense to make that with 200k in student debt. At least not to me.

I did not pick cotton, I measured the acreage for some program. Really great pay. I furnished my own truck and got $11 a day.