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 Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 03:37 PM
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 03:40 PM
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Cops steal all the time,,, if you drive with cash in your car you are taking a huge chance. Texas DPS is famous for it. Notice how they phrase it ---- 33 million in drugs and cash ------------------- 8 suspects arrested out of 219----------- so only 8 had drugs,,, 211 had cash. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2021/04/full-67292-290371-cops_steal.jpg)
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 03:45 PM
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Cops steal all the time,,, if you drive with cash in your car you are taking a huge chance. Texas DPS is famous for it. Notice how they phrase it ---- 33 million in drugs and cash ------------------- 8 suspects arrested out of 219----------- so only 8 had drugs,,, 211 had cash. You’re an idiot
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 03:56 PM
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So what is the limit of cash on your person that the law allows.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 04:11 PM
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^ None that I know of. I know you have to "declare" > $10K when entering the country.
I got stopped for a secondary screening DFW a few years back on my way to Japan. I had $1,500 in cash on me and the Customs dude freaked out because I didn't tell him. My reply was "you didn't ask."
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 04:19 PM
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The forfeiture laws are just a license to steal in many cases. Way, way, way too broad. Like the red light cameras, they get away with it because it’s placed under civil law rather than criminal law. It’s long past time for the courts to clamp down.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 04:56 PM
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I don't like the idea of drug dealers being able to profit from their illegal activities. If I get pulled over and have tens of thousands of dollars of cash in my vehicle, I will very easily prove that it is legitimate earnings. They can't, and thus it gets seized under chapter 59 of the CCP.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 05:00 PM
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The forfeiture laws are just a license to steal in many cases. Way, way, way too broad. Like the red light cameras, they get away with it because it’s placed under civil law rather than criminal law. It’s long past time for the courts to clamp down. that and it assumes your guilty. that's not the way it should work.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 05:07 PM
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I don't like the idea of drug dealers being able to profit from their illegal activities. If I get pulled over and have tens of thousands of dollars of cash in my vehicle, I will very easily prove that it is legitimate earnings. They can't, and thus it gets seized under chapter 59 of the CCP. A person shouldn’t have to prove their innocence.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 05:36 PM
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Cops steal all the time,,, if you drive with cash in your car you are taking a huge chance. Texas DPS is famous for it. Notice how they phrase it ---- 33 million in drugs and cash ------------------- 8 suspects arrested out of 219----------- so only 8 had drugs,,, 211 had cash. You’re an idiot What Cbump said.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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I don't like the idea of drug dealers being able to profit from their illegal activities. If I get pulled over and have tens of thousands of dollars of cash in my vehicle, I will very easily prove that it is legitimate earnings. They can't, and thus it gets seized under chapter 59 of the CCP. A person shouldn’t have to prove their innocence. I'll make the sacrifice to do harm to the left and their hoards of criminals destroying our country.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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When we wintered down south in Mission,Tx we crossed the border at Renosa International border.There were signs informing you that your vehicle would be confiscating if ammunition or firearms were found inside.I never took my truck over because I didn't want it searched or tore up looking for something that wasn't there. We went usually once a week to eat lunch and visit a few shops. You would be surprised of some of the things smugglers tried but didn't make it. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2021/04/full-4145-290385-herione_found_in_driveshaft.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2021/04/full-4145-290386-herion_in_driveshaft.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2021/04/full-4145-290387-marijuana_in_tires.jpg)
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 07:25 PM
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Nothing quite like losing your freedom and/or your truck in Mexico. US Border Patrol had the truck, not Mexico. They deemed him uncooperative, found the (5) bullets in a search and decided to show him who was really in charge. Charlie
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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The way it has been described to me ----------- the cop offers to confiscate your money, if you refuse, then he will arrest you, tow your vehicle, and get the money anyway ,, so almost all just say, ok, take the money. Feds steal money like this almost daily. I have numerous articles on this also.
cbump and Oxner think I am an idiot for posting and reading an article out of the paper ---------- actually they meant to say "informed". Name calling and avoiding all facts is the main tool of the far left.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 08:01 PM
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The way it has been described to me ----------- the cop offers to confiscate your money, if you refuse, then he will arrest you, tow your vehicle, and get the money anyway ,, so almost all just say, ok, take the money. Feds steal money like this almost daily. I have numerous articles on this also.
cbump and Oxner think I am an idiot for posting and reading an article out of the paper ---------- actually they meant to say "informed". Name calling and avoiding all facts is the main tool of the far left. I do this everyday. I promise you I’m more informed than you. Give me your money or you’re under arrest? Lmao.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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04/12/21 08:32 PM
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The way it has been described to me ----------- the cop offers to confiscate your money, if you refuse, then he will arrest you, tow your vehicle, and get the money anyway ,, so almost all just say, ok, take the money. Feds steal money like this almost daily. I have numerous articles on this also.
cbump and Oxner think I am an idiot for posting and reading an article out of the paper ---------- actually they meant to say "informed". Name calling and avoiding all facts is the main tool of the far left. I do this everyday. I promise you I’m more informed than you. Give me your money or you’re under arrest? Lmao. You may do this every day and you may be honest. Not everyone is honest and it very clearly has been used many times with nefarious intent. If you do not understand that, then you are sadly under-informed on the subject. I have had this discussion with law enforcement folks, they say things like "No, that cannot happen" or "That is not correct, because it would be illegal." Then they look it up and come with "Man, you were not kidding." Go ahead and call me an idiot too.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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They don't confiscate money unless they find drugs and if they do find drugs I hope they get all the money.O,and you can kiss your auto goodby.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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They don't confiscate money unless they find drugs and if they do find drugs I hope they get all the money.O,and you can kiss your auto goodby. No, Sir. That would be great if it were true, but that is not how it works. Do some checking and you will see why I am so adamant about the subject.
A Democracy is when two wolves and a lamb vote on the dinner menu. That is why this country was specifically not designed as a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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As a former Fed I don't like what the original idea turned into, which was it basically turned into a source of revenue for state and local departments through "asset sharing" programs. And they will seize money and make you fight to get it back.
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They don't confiscate money unless they find drugs and if they do find drugs I hope they get all the money.O,and you can kiss your auto goodby. No, Sir. That would be great if it were true, but that is not how it works. Do some checking and you will see why I am so adamant about the subject. You must be talking on a federal level where i'm talking more on the local level.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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As a former Fed I don't like what the original idea turned into, which was it basically turned into a source of revenue for state and local departments through "asset sharing" programs. And they will seize money and make you fight to get it back. As a former Fed I don't like what the original idea turned into, which was it basically turned into a source of revenue for state and local departments through "asset sharing" programs. And they will seize money and make you fight to get it back. Wholeheartedly agree! The intent was great because it allowed the guys in the field to stop the bad guys in their tracks. A lack of checks and balances caused it to rot from the inside out. Ted Cruz has talked about working toward abolishing it, in its current form and making a criminal process instead of civil.
A Democracy is when two wolves and a lamb vote on the dinner menu. That is why this country was specifically not designed as a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
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They don't confiscate money unless they find drugs and if they do find drugs I hope they get all the money.O,and you can kiss your auto goodby. No, Sir. That would be great if it were true, but that is not how it works. Do some checking and you will see why I am so adamant about the subject. You must be talking on a federal level where i'm talking more on the local level. No, Sir. It applies to city, county, state, and federal. Seriously, check into it. The facts should make your blood boil. Note that it is "Civil" Forfeiture so no crime must be identified and proven - only suspected. Quick overview link
A Democracy is when two wolves and a lamb vote on the dinner menu. That is why this country was specifically not designed as a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
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Re: Munitions of War Equals Forfeiture of Truck
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