So, what about the immunity for those that contracted the coronavirus? The CDC just put out new guidelines for those that have been vaccinated, but nothing about those that had it. In my not qualified opinion, natural immunity should always be superior to any immunity made by man. What's the deal then? Why should someone that can prove they had it and recovered be treated any different than someone vaccinated by a synthetic vaccine?

It's all about taking control.

Because its the gubmint...

You are correct, there should be no difference. But logic went out the door a long time ago on this stuff

IDK but I got both shots. I don’t want to get Covid again...EVER.

This is not a permanent vaccine I would assume.. This is no more than a flu shot to get you through the season or at least that is what I was told. It ain't the polio shot. That is unless I am misinformed.

“It looks like the vaccines produce a longer immune response than natural infection, so it may last longer than a year, but it’s unlikely to be permanent the way two doses of measles vaccine is,” he says. “So at some point, it’s likely that we will need to boost people, but we don’t know how frequently that will need to be.”

Because there are many instances of people contracting Covid more than one time. Getting Covid doesn't seem to provide the same level of efficacy as the vaccine does. And there is a slight chance that those with the vaccine can still get Covid, but overall the vaccine has been scientifically proven to be effective in preventing and spreading the disease.

You sir, are spot on.
I had the discussion with my physician during a physical two weeks ago
I'm 65. I had the dreaded 19 in October of 20.
He told me they would test my blood that day and if the anti-body level was high, I should pass on the vaxx.

Blood tests showed a very high level of anti-bodies.
Some anti-bodies last a lifetime.

No vaxx for this boy.

There are multiple mutations that the vaccine can cover vs the one someone has had. Not all are covered but at least the common strains are. Sounds scientific.

I do expect the vaccine will just become part of the "flu" shot we get every year as new variants and strains are discovered. So far I believe there are at least 3 or 4 strains that the vaccines were not tested against, and J&J was used with some efficacy in S African strain but their results were lower there than in other countries.

English strain
S African Strain
Indian Strain
I am sure I missing one of the new ones too, but tbh I don't care that much about covid much anymore.

Lethality is very low and getting lower with each strain, its the natural pathogenesis of virus mutation, they become more contagious but the lethality goes down. It is already quite low, so going lower will help us.

FEEDING THE BIG PHARMA MONSTER !

This plus the big pharma thing. Politicians are all corrupt imo and they get their money from corporations.

My Doc said the exact same thing. Plus everything but J&J is from MRNA. No one can truthfully say what long term effects it will have. So technically as I understand it these “vaccines” are not “vaccines” except J&J which is only 64-65% effective.

technically a vaccine is something given to incite an immune response to prevent future infections or development of disease.

There are many different varieties of vaccines out there, live virus, dead virus, synthetic virus, and things that create an immune response without using viral particles such as mRNA. so to call the mRNA vaccines not a vaccine, is kind of disingenuous and misleading. mRNA vaccines have been around for a while, just not widely used. But their past presence is what allowed the pharma system to be primed to create so many of these so quickly. The back bone was there, they just had to figure out the DNA sequence of something that could be used to offer protection against majority of the coronavirus. when they coded the spike protein, they were able to start making the vaccine within 48 hours, because mRNA vaccines have been around for a while.

Thank you, sir.

As to the OP, I have known several people that have contacted Covid more than once....not long haulers (people with covid that seems to just keep lingering), but lab verified different Covid infections. They believe those that have been infected have about 3 months of immunity, but even that could be longer, or shorter.

Maybe they think your wacko if you had it

A third of COVID survivors suffer neurological or mental disorders: study

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brain-idUSKBN2BT2ZI

Another thing to remember is some people's immune systems are just not as effective as others.

Nearly everyone gets the MMR vaccines when we are babies and toddlers, and that immunity is supposed to last a lifetime, but in medicine many times we will get titers of antibodies for these diseases to check for immunity. There are people that just don't have antibodies for them. Their immune systems did not develop the immunity they were supposed to. the reason they didn't get Measles, mumps or rubella growing up is because the diseases were largely absent their exposure. We have seen some regional outbreaks of those diseases that were thought to be eradicated, because some groups don't get vaccinated and then a single exposure goes through and then more kids and adults with bad immune systems can get it too.


The same thing will happen with covid. While it is still available for community acquiring, meaning it is somewhat prevalent in the "wild" those with weaker immune systems will get it and reacquire it as their immunity runs out. does not mean everyone's antibodies run out, but some do. Once we can get to herd immunity, maybe we will see that stop. We may never see it stop due to variants and mutations. Time will tell on that. But as I mentioned before, I expect corona virus to be part of the yearly "flu" shot the same way other corona virus have been in the past (sars, mars, etc)

Has there been anything that shows how long the vaccine, with both shots will last? Or do you think this will become an annual or say every 6 months trip to get a shot???

You need to quit posting facts. There are a lot of science deniers on here.

Read the post directly above the one of yours i quoted

Just another reason to get the vaccine. All of these long lasting side effects like fatigue, loss of smell or taste, brain fog, lung/heart/brain damage....there are countless reasons to get the vaccine and put this pandemic in the rear view mirror. And yet, there are people on this forum who all think it's a hoax (I just read a post from a THF user who called the vaccine snake oil).

I don't think you can convince folks, just make it easier. I am sure electricity, running water and indoor plumbing had detractors as well. They will come around.

Most think it will be annual, but there have been studies released in the last 2 weeks on both Pfizer and Moderna showing robust efficacy 6 months out (at least 90% effective). There was another study released about a month ago showing the mRNA vaccines trigger the lymph nodes which release the B cell, which should give us a longer immunity.

In other words, they don't know, but they are hopeful. There may need to be boosters, depending on the variants.

My bet, it will be like the flu shot and we get one every year.

I’m thinking the same way.
I had the virus and it was rough.
You get the full dose when you get the virus the shot has been weakened.
The dr told me I could get it again.
Idk?!!