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No more AR Pistols ??? #8230072 04/08/21 11:31 PM
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Neighbor just texted me the AR pistols (brace fired) are being outlawed??? WTF >>


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Re: No more AR Pistols ??? [Re: Buzzsaw] #8230087 04/08/21 11:53 PM
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Yea...Joe signed some EO today. Not sure of the details but it mentioned arm braces.


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Biden, calling gun violence in America an "international embarrassment," took several actions:

•Orders the Justice Department, within 30 days, to issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of “ghost guns."

•Orders the Justice Department, within 60 days, to issue a proposed rule to make clear that when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle, that gun will be subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act.

•Orders Justice Department, within 60 days, to publish model “red flag” legislation for states.


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Re: No more AR Pistols ??? [Re: Buzzsaw] #8230145 04/09/21 12:39 AM
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Looks like they’re going after them, but as pointed out in the other thread the bump stock EO Trump did back in 2017 got struck down as unconstitutional. So maybe this one will to.


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Im selling mine


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Re: No more AR Pistols ??? [Re: Buzzsaw] #8230182 04/09/21 01:21 AM
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Biden, calling gun violence in America an "international embarrassment," took several actions:



The only international embarrasment is JOE BIDEN

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Im selling mine


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Re: No more AR Pistols ??? [Re: Buzzsaw] #8230301 04/09/21 03:43 AM
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Since they’ll be illegal and no one will want it Buzz I’ll take it off your hands for cheap grin


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Originally Posted by KRoyal
Looks like they’re going after them, but as pointed out in the other thread the bump stock EO Trump did back in 2017 got struck down as unconstitutional. So maybe this one will to.


What? when did bump stocks become legal again? How did I miss this?


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Originally Posted by Nathan at Fork
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Looks like they’re going after them, but as pointed out in the other thread the bump stock EO Trump did back in 2017 got struck down as unconstitutional. So maybe this one will to.


What? when did bump stocks become legal again? How did I miss this?

Check out the Biden EO thread right below this one. There is a link in that thread someone posted. Actually ironic it happened today same day Biden signed these EO’s.


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Originally Posted by Nathan at Fork
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Looks like they’re going after them, but as pointed out in the other thread the bump stock EO Trump did back in 2017 got struck down as unconstitutional. So maybe this one will to.


What? when did bump stocks become legal again? How did I miss this?



You probly missed it because you had your face in a big bowl of rice. clap up

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They are not illegal now...but most likely will be soon...until it gets to the courts. Once it hits the courts, who knows. Can't say we didn't expect this. Total BS.


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They won't be illegal period, ever end of story. ATF does not pass laws, they do not legislate. It can't stand up in court. You can't say one thing on one day - it's ok it's not an SBR go ahead and manufacture it, then after 4 million are on the streets say - oh, that's illegal now. If Biden had put hundreds of judges on the bench, he might get away with it. But Trump put those conservative judges there, not Biden and they won't stand for it.

You live in Texas a state where the Governor will before this so call "rule" is ever proposed sign into law a Sanctuary Law that will declare Texas a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary State similar to what Arizona has done. State and Local law enforcement, Sheriffs, etc will all be directed to NOT enforce Biden's illegal rules. And there isn't a thing they can do about it either because they are the ones that set the precedent with Sanctuary Cities.

The Sheriff here in Collin County has gone on record numerous times stating that he will not enforce any illegal laws that undermine the 2nd Amendment.

So unless you have done something else to get federal authorities on your case, no one will enforce it. Believe me, the ATF and FBI will have enough on their hands over the next 4 years dealing with other things that happen as a result of open borders than to worry about enforcing rules on pistol braces in states where the authorities will not.

Those that panic and sell such guns are doing exactly what they want. They WANT people to be scared into getting rid of them. They want them to be removed from the market as far as manufacture and selling is concerned (and they will I'm sure manage to restrict manufacture/distribution until the ruling is overturned I'm sure).

There is no way in hell that the idiot that he nominated to run the AFT (Biden's stupid name for the ATF) will pass Senate confirmation. It ain't gonna happen. There is a reason that there hasn't been a Senate confirmed head of ATF in 7 years, no one can get confirmed! You've already seen one Senate Confirmation not happen because of past comments a nominee has made, wait till they try with him. He deleted thousands of online tweets and messages already but copies are out there just as they were with Tanden - not to mention his comments that people should be arrested BEFORE they commit a crime, that we store our guns until the zombies attack, that the Branch Dividians shot down FBI helicopters at Waco, etc. I could go on and on about that fool.

The downfall (beauty) about Executive Orders (or ATF "rulings") are that they can be undone as easily as they were done. Even Biden in his senile stupidity knows this. He knows he doesn't have the votes to get anything thru the Senate in regards to gun control, so this is what he's doing to placate the gun control nuts that make up his base.

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They are not illegal now...but most likely will be soon...until it gets to the courts. Once it hits the courts, who knows. Can't say we didn't expect this. Total BS.


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Earl is right, people need to calm down. Buzz, if your deal with Kyle falls through I want seconds. clap

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Originally Posted by Choctaw
Earl is right, people need to calm down. Buzz, if your deal with Kyle falls through I want seconds. clap

Yep.....do you ever think with your brain Buzz?


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Earl is right, people need to calm down. Buzz, if your deal with Kyle falls through I want seconds. clap

Yep.....do you ever think with your brain Buzz?

Lol he done posted it up in the classifieds. I was going to take it off his hands for cheap since ya know they're going to be outlawed. Trying to do him a favor and he is trying to get top dollar for it LOL SMH.


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Originally Posted by KRoyal
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Earl is right, people need to calm down. Buzz, if your deal with Kyle falls through I want seconds. clap

Yep.....do you ever think with your brain Buzz?

Lol he done posted it up in the classifieds. I was going to take it off his hands for cheap since ya know they're going to be outlawed. Trying to do him a favor and he is trying to get top dollar for it LOL SMH.


He sure did! roflmao

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If you are considering getting one I'd get it now because any ruling they do WILL impact the manufacture and brick/mortar retail selling of them until the rule is overturned which as can be seen with the bump stock ruling, takes time. While they won't have the resources to go after individuals with braces in locations where local authorities won't enforce their rulings, they WILL go after manufacturers like they have already shown they will. That's where the lawsuits will start at when they try to shut down SB Tactical from making braces, Daniel Defense from putting them on AR Pistols, etc.

In fact, it's entirely possible that a new president and new interim ATF head would change things again before the matter is resolved in the courts.

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Lol I’ll just go ahead and make it a sbr. If it’s going to be illegal it may as well be what I want

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Originally Posted by Choctaw
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Earl is right, people need to calm down. Buzz, if your deal with Kyle falls through I want seconds. clap

Yep.....do you ever think with your brain Buzz?

Lol he done posted it up in the classifieds. I was going to take it off his hands for cheap since ya know they're going to be outlawed. Trying to do him a favor and he is trying to get top dollar for it LOL SMH.


He sure did! roflmao

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The other thing to look at here is that they aren't talking about outlawing pistols. It's the brace they are making rules about and going after. Assuming any of this passes and survives a court test, you can always take the brace off the pistol.


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Originally Posted by gtrich94
The other thing to look at here is that they aren't talking about outlawing pistols. It's the brace they are making rules about and going after. Assuming any of this passes and survives a court test, you can always take the brace off the pistol.


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On the news last night the report said the brace turns a pistol into a rifle. Ch. 4 i think. A network report said it makes them more accurate, so more deadly.


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