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Re: Pickup Truck Advice [Re: Sneaky] #8229200 04/08/21 04:37 AM
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It seems any thread about anything related to pickup trucks is destined to get lots of play on here and go several pages. Since this one is very generic I anticipate it may never end. Im just glad this is in Off Topic and not under Hunting trucks section.
Sauer, for what its worth I am right up your alley. I dont usually buy new trucks either. I dont spend saturdays under my truck either, for sure not. Reliability, 4x4, some towing and everything else you mentioned is what I look for as well. I bought an 06 Tundra in about 2010 with 40k miles on it and it has 267000 now. Its been great. Im not sure how much longer it will go so im considering doing something similar again but probably one year away. If I was buying used I think Toyota is the way to go since I would be nervous to expect to put a lot of miles on any other used truck. But like I said, im not a truck guy so im sure others will completely disagree.

Some may completely disagree. But Toyota has a reputation for reliability for a reason. They are reliable. Ford has done some great things in the last 20 years on reliability as well. Dodge and Chevy, not so much.


I don't think Ford, Dodge, or Chevy are any different as far as reliability. You may get a lemon in any brand and may get one that last forever in any brand. People that think one is way better are just fanboys like Superduty.


Or maybe they’ve spent a lot of time in all of them, in true work environments, and they’ve formed an experienced opinion. I know that’s rare, but it does happen.


I've put a few miles on Chevys and Ford's myself and while the Ford's I've had by far the worst luck with, they both work just fine. I don't work them that hard though, just farm out of them and tow 15 to 25k with them a few times a month.

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Understood. Some of us work them a little harder than that, and we can separate the wheat from the chaff.

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A guy called Z71 said a guy called Superduty was a fanboy. Ironic?





Dustin I get what your saying, still funny though.

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I guess you can call me a fan boy too.....but working many, many trucks very hard in the oil patch our SuperDuty’s simply out preform under out very hard and heavy workloads. You see dodge duallys being driven by consultants and salesmen.....the working trucks are usually Fords.....never a Tundra! We switched to Chevy two years ago and they are a total POS!

But that’s just my opinion, based on 13 years of hard oilfield driving experience......

My personal truck is 4x4 2011 F-250 crew cab with 200K and no issues so far....


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Originally Posted by z71dustin
I've put a few miles on Chevys and Ford's myself and while the Ford's I've had by far the worst luck with, they both work just fine. I don't work them that hard though, just farm out of them and tow 15 to 25k with them a few times a month.


Light duty...1/2 ton? Or heavy duty 3/4 or full ton? popcorn


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Re: Pickup Truck Advice [Re: Sauerkraut] #8229240 04/08/21 10:29 AM
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It’s been said before. A 5.7 tundra will handle what you’re asking. I don’t think any of the others mentioned would get 300k with only oil/fluid changes and one water pump at 250k.

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Tundras are great....but not if you want decent mpg...I'd be looking at a gas 3/4 ton.

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If you go back to the Pre active fuel management/cylinder deactivation years of GM the 5.3 the reliability will skyrocket i would think.

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Originally Posted by MacDaddy21
Tundras are great....but not if you want decent mpg...I'd be looking at a gas 3/4 ton.


Gas 3/4 ton is most likely going to be worse than a Tundra.


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My Brother just bought a 2006 Ram 2500 with the mega cab and the 5.9 cummins 170k on the clock for $18500 cash private sale.

Used trucks are expensive or completely ratted out.

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Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
I guess you can call me a fan boy too.....but working many, many trucks very hard in the oil patch our SuperDuty’s simply out preform under out very hard and heavy workloads. You see dodge duallys being driven by consultants and salesmen.....the working trucks are usually Fords.....never a Tundra! We switched to Chevy two years ago and they are a total POS!

But that’s just my opinion, based on 13 years of hard oilfield driving experience......

My personal truck is 4x4 2011 F-250 crew cab with 200K and no issues so far....


Back when I was in construction and towed heavy loads (10-12K+) every day, this was my experience. Not needing that much towing power now, but the powerstroke outperformed the duramax by a longshot. Never drove a cummins.

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Lots of great advice on here. I have several to be looking for, but I think I'm going to focus on a Tundra. I've had a great experience with my 04 Tacoma (which will be for sale soon btw), although it still has low mileage.

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Sounds like it will fit your needs. Most folks have a favorite when in reality every vehicle is subject to a different life use abuse etc. Many of them will do what needs doing.


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Originally Posted by Ktexas14
My Brother just bought a 2006 Ram 2500 with the mega cab and the 5.9 cummins 170k on the clock for $18500 cash private sale.

Used trucks are expensive or completely ratted out.


5.9’s are hard to find and for a reason. One of the best motors ever made.

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Originally Posted by Sauerkraut
Lots of great advice on here. I have several to be looking for, but I think I'm going to focus on a Tundra. I've had a great experience with my 04 Tacoma (which will be for sale soon btw), although it still has low mileage.


I may have a sr5 double cab tundra that hasn’t been driven hard and towed the boat maybe a handful of times. Possibly buying my buddies duramax


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find an f150 with the 5.0 and six speed.

I currently have a 14 model with tow pkg/off road/5.0 4x4 and it has been the best truck I have owned in the 35+ yrs. I have owned 4x4s.
had 2 minor glitches, head temp sensor and a ball joint that failed, both fixed under warranty.

I use it here at the ranch to tow our side by sides, haul materials, pallets of corn @ 2,000 #, tow a 20' bass boat etc. and it does it without hesitation while still avging 15+ mpg.
only suggestion I would make is get the superchips tuner for it, mine has paid for itself a few times in mpg increases. superchips is aimed at towing and not hot rodding although the truck will hold its own for acceleration if needed.

diesel will cost you about 3 times as much in normal maintenance, oil changes are pricey, fuel is pricey now, insurance on a 3/4 is likely more than a 1/2 ton as well.

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3.7L Ti-VCT (V6) 10,400-11,700 lbs. 5,500-6,700 lbs.
5.0L Ti-VCT (V8) 12,900-15,300 lbs. 7,600-10,000 lbs.
3.5L Ti-VCT EcoBoost (V6) 14,000-17,100 lbs. 7,300-11,300 lbs.
6.2L VCT (V8) 12,500-17,100 lbs. 6,000-11,300 lbs.

https://letstowthat.com/2013-2014-ford-150-towing-capacity/

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Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
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I've put a few miles on Chevys and Ford's myself and while the Ford's I've had by far the worst luck with, they both work just fine. I don't work them that hard though, just farm out of them and tow 15 to 25k with them a few times a month.


Light duty...1/2 ton? Or heavy duty 3/4 or full ton? popcorn


All 3/4 ton 4wd. Drove a few gassers and a few diesels. I've had way more experience with Chevys but never had one in the shop for anything other than a def heater. Newest truck is a 2020 Superduty 3/4 ton with less than 15k on it and so far the heater has quit working, both batteries have failed and the clock resets almost every time you drive it but it will pull.

Current main truck is a Duramax that's spends about 25% of it's 75k miles hooked 15-25k lbs and has only been to the shop for the def heater.

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A guy called Z71 said a guy called Superduty was a fanboy. Ironic?





Dustin I get what your saying, still funny though.


I knew someone would say that lol.

I haven't owned a z71 in 7-8 years but don't care to change the name

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Understood. Some of us work them a little harder than that, and we can separate the wheat from the chaff.


True. Farming out of a truck is probably about the easiest life you can give one.

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Unpopular opinion - for what you're wanting it to do - any of them will work just fine. All the 1/2 tons have about the same reliability rating (below average) with the exception of the Tundra (above average). I am not a Toyota fan boy - I drive Rams - and they're usually at the bottom of the reliability lists.

Bread and butter work trucks (3/4 ton diesels) - chevy and ford have the highest reliability and Ford 3/4 diesels usually top out any lists.

The biggest problem you're going to face is finding something priced reasonably that hasn't been dogged and abused.

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Originally Posted by redchevy
Sounds like it will fit your needs. Most folks have a favorite when in reality every vehicle is subject to a different life use abuse etc. Many of them will do what needs doing.

I think this is a pretty savvy statement. Also, the guys are correct in saying how a truck is used/abused, towed with etc will have a huge affect on your opinion of it.


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Originally Posted by Sauerkraut
Lots of great advice on here. I have several to be looking for, but I think I'm going to focus on a Tundra. I've had a great experience with my 04 Tacoma (which will be for sale soon btw), although it still has low mileage.

Sauer, Ill be looking about a year behind you so I hope you will remember me and let me know what your research yields.
Also, that Tacoma will sell real fast on here. The guys constantly talk about how its the best for hunting.


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Originally Posted by freerange
Originally Posted by Sauerkraut
Lots of great advice on here. I have several to be looking for, but I think I'm going to focus on a Tundra. I've had a great experience with my 04 Tacoma (which will be for sale soon btw), although it still has low mileage.

Sauer, Ill be looking about a year behind you so I hope you will remember me and let me know what your research yields.
Also, that Tacoma will sell real fast on here. The guys constantly talk about how its the best for hunting.


Definitely will, thank you for your input, looking to purchase in the next month or two. Yeah I think it will sell fast, I'm definitely planning on posting here before anywhere else.

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I didn't read the entire thread and not sure what "moderate" towing capacity to you means, but I would have to give this truck a hard look.

https://texashuntingforum.com/forum...3-5-ecoboost-price-reduction#Post8167080

I'm surprised it's not sold at that price in this market. Especially if he can verify the maintenance records. I've owned two 3.5 Ecoboosts. My current one is 2014 with 150K. These twin turbo V6s will run circles around all the V8's I've owned in both Chevy and Ford. Discounting the new diesels and what you could do with chips in the older diesels, the Ecoboost will flat out tow as good as the older 7.3L non-chipped diesels I owned talking apples to apples in staying within the towing capacity of the F150. Plus the crew cab in that year model F150 was one of the largest cabs made until the 2017 SuperDuty's came out. My .02!


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Used truck market right now is crazy! $20K may not get you very much truck.


Unfortunately you're right about this. What's shocking to me is that you can pay $20-30k for a pickup with 100k+ miles or you can buy a new one for $35k. They just don't depreciate.

You ain't gonna find a F 250 super crew new for $35k unless they forgot to put doors on it.

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