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Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 12:39 AM
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Superduty
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I am having a 1400 sq foot pine deck installed over a dry creek and do not know which is a smarter choice. Stain? Paint? Or this "deck over" which sounds like paint... https://www.behr.com/consumer/products/wood-stains-finishes-cleaners-and-strippers/advanced-deckoverAny comments are appreciated. * Boards near me were placed there so the pup could walk across, not screwed in yet.
Last edited by Superduty; 04/07/21 12:45 AM.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 12:44 AM
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Painted decks look like crap.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 12:46 AM
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Superduty
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Painted decks look like crap. Thanks, but it is pine not cedar.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 12:58 AM
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That is going to look pretty good when it’s done. Maybe paint it to match the grey of your garage.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 01:04 AM
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About 7 years ago I asked the same question, the answer was Olympic Maximum. You can find it at Lowes. I recommend the lighter stain colors, the dark ones act as a heat sink and get hotter than hell.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
[Re: Superduty]
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04/07/21 01:06 AM
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Behr Deckover. Mines been painted for 4 years now and still looks great. I wish I'd done it to my deck at the coast.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 01:31 AM
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I’d stain it, because I love to see the wood grain, even if it is pine. I don’t generally care for painted wood. I wouldn’t even care if it was the better option or what anyone else thought about it.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 01:57 AM
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I wouldn't do pine............. But, that's just me................
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 01:59 AM
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I wouldn't do pine............. But, that's just me................
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 02:09 AM
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Painted decks look like crap. Thanks, but it is pine not cedar. Thanks for the clarification even though I knew it was pine when I answered. Don’t change anything for me. Your reply kinda makes me wonder why you’re even asking. If you thinking only cedar should be stained, then paint It.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 02:11 AM
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Painted decks look like crap. My opinion as well
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 02:17 AM
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let it weather for about 3-4 months. You will have to replace about 5-10% of the deckboards due to excessive checking and warping but thats normal. Fresh treated pine doesent take a stain very well...need to let it weather.
I would, at least for the first couple go'rounds, use a semi-transparent stain. Olympic Maximum is a good one, I always used Sikkens TRD stain. I've heard it has taken a dive though since they got bought by PPG. Stained Pressure treated pine looks good. Avoid any Behr product. Use Olympic, CWF Flood, Sikkens or Cabot.
Pressure wash and let it dry, then give it a good sand with 60 grit orbital sander. spray stain on then wipe it out with a deck pad. Will look nice.
Before I got into real estate I owned a paint & stain company and did thousands of decks and fences. A product like deck-over is great for a boat dock but I wouldn't want it on my personal deck. You can pressure wash off and re-stain the treated wood several times over. After that a solid color stain ( looks like a paint) will restore a old and tired deck, but it will look painted, which in some applications is fine ( if a house has painted siding for instance ) .
Let me know if you have any specific questions
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 02:21 AM
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That’s going to be a great deck
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 02:39 AM
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We all know you just wanted to show off pictures lol
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 03:57 AM
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That's a big deck. I'd paint it a darker color so you can say "look at my big dark deck". Make sure you use fine grit though, don't want the ladies (or men, not judging) getting a splinter
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 03:59 AM
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Out on stain, Seal it with a non trasparent color.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 04:01 AM
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Let it dry Is right though. 2 months should be fine.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 06:08 AM
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I've had good luck treating raw pine with diluted sealer BEFORE staining. It comes out really well and is worlds better than simply brushing stain on pine boards and hoping for the best. I'd test a couple of boards the way this article suggests and see what you think. https://www.familyhandyman.com/proj...without-getting-blotches-and-dark-spots/FWIW, my folks had a dark brown painted deck growing up. It looked good with fresh paint and matched the paint on the house. It did get really hot, and I got to repaint it every two years when it started looking rough.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 07:28 AM
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We all know you just wanted to show off pictures lol Haha no kidding. Super duty, king of the humble brag.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 11:14 AM
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Multiple coats of Thompson’s Water Seal on frame before decking it. Then water seal the heck out of the decking every couple of years will keep it looking good.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 11:21 AM
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let it weather for about 3-4 months. You will have to replace about 5-10% of the deckboards due to excessive checking and warping but thats normal. Fresh treated pine doesent take a stain very well...need to let it weather.
I would, at least for the first couple go'rounds, use a semi-transparent stain. Olympic Maximum is a good one, I always used Sikkens TRD stain. I've heard it has taken a dive though since they got bought by PPG. Stained Pressure treated pine looks good. Avoid any Behr product. Use Olympic, CWF Flood, Sikkens or Cabot.
Pressure wash and let it dry, then give it a good sand with 60 grit orbital sander. spray stain on then wipe it out with a deck pad. Will look nice.
Before I got into real estate I owned a paint & stain company and did thousands of decks and fences. A product like deck-over is great for a boat dock but I wouldn't want it on my personal deck. You can pressure wash off and re-stain the treated wood several times over. After that a solid color stain ( looks like a paint) will restore a old and tired deck, but it will look painted, which in some applications is fine ( if a house has painted siding for instance ) .
Let me know if you have any specific questions
A lot of good advice here, especially the solid color stain bit.
Last edited by DLALLDER; 04/07/21 11:22 AM.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 11:21 AM
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That will look nice when done Wonder how long it will last before mother nature starts wearing away on it?
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 11:49 AM
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Stain, don't paint.
Wish you would've talked to me before you started that project.
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 11:55 AM
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Re: Need THF wise ness. New PINE deck.
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04/07/21 12:54 PM
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