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 Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
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04/05/21 01:13 AM
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Thanks for the advice Buckeye, once again much appreciated.
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
[Re: NewGulf]
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04/05/21 01:57 AM
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Buckeye, your professional comments and clarifications are most appreciated. Thanks for taking the time to explain. At age 68, I have an appointment next week to discuss my cataracts and possible solutions. As a practicing dentist, I have many questions to ask my MD.
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
[Re: NewGulf]
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04/05/21 02:49 AM
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Lasix monovision 8 years ago. In my early 50s now. Game changing.
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
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04/05/21 04:05 PM
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Buckeye, thanks so much for all the information. I'm going to eye doctor next week. Now I know a tiny bit of what to ask.
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
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04/05/21 06:28 PM
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[quote=cm250]Had my right eye done on 15th of January last year, and left eye on the 5th of February. Had lasik cataract surgery with corrective lenses put in. I was 59 at the time. Still need readers but was one of the best things I have done! No issues other than wearing a pair of glasses with one lense for a couple weeks between surgerys. Took off part of the day, the day of the surgery, went back to work the following day both times. Just to clarify, you had cataract surgery. You did not have lasik surgery. Big difference. Semantics, but it is part of the reason why so many think a laser is “needed” for cataract surgery. It just isn’t . Glad you are seeing well. . I did have “lasik” cataract surgery. Had the option to just have cataract surgery, was showed the pros and cons of both procedures. Cheaper was only pro on basic surgery. Pros on lasik was more precise cuts and lense replacement and better vision after. Cost was considerably more, but the safety and other benefits made it worth it. Thank you...... So lasik is a procedure where a femto-second laser is used to create a flap, then an excimer laser is used to reshape the cornea to a certain prescription that is programmed into the laser machine. It is done independent and at a different time as cataract surgery for a number of reasons but the main one being you don't know exactly what prescription to treat until the eye heals from cataract surgery. Laser cataract surgery is where a femto-secod laser is used to perform some aspects of cataract surgery, and the cataract surgery is performed. A small cut is made for cataract surgery, unlike a flap for lasik surgery. For the most part, as i described above, the cost is more significant to the patient than standard cataract surgery and the science shows no benefit to the patient. In truth it is a way for the surgeon to make more money doing cataract surgery and it is sold to people who are told it is an upgrade and a way to get a better outcome. I do this for a living. I am quite aware of the types of procedures/surgeries available for patients, and “lasik” cataract surgery is not a real thing. Your surgeon may have told you that is what you had, but what you actually had was femto laser assisted cataract surgery, also known as FLACS. I have done plenty of lasik months after cataract surgery, once the eye has healed to get a precise prescription treatment, but that is not the timeline you described. If that is what actually happened, you had cataract surgery and several weeks to months afterward had lasik to fine tune your refractive outcome, then i apologize for being saying that isn’t what you had. Again, glad you had a good outcome, and glad you could pay extra to “help” that outcome. I sure hope you didn’t go into debt to do what you did. [/quote So, you are calling the Doctors at OBG lasik cataract surgery in Sherman TX frauds?????
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
[Re: cm250]
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04/05/21 06:45 PM
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So, you are calling the doctors at OBG lasik / cataract surgery frauds??????
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
[Re: NewGulf]
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04/05/21 06:46 PM
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No dude, i am not calling anyone a fraud. What i am saying is you are confusing “laser cataract surgery” (per the RGP ophthalmology website) for “lasik cataract surgery” and i tried to explain the differences and you are still arguing it. You are confused and thats ok, its a confusing topic.
What i will say is the benefit from the laser cataract surgery has not been scientifically proven to do anything but line the surgeons pockets with your hard earned money. The reality is the femto-second laser assisted cataract surgery is probably a little safer than regular cataract surgery in some surgeons, and that is just a sad testimony to the surgeon. For a good competent surgeon the risk benefit ratio for FLACS is borderline worse for the laser than with manual surgery and outcomes have been on the side of the manual surgeons. Large studies have proven that out. It matters not, the results you got sound great so you got your moneys worth. I am hist trying to help other folks potentially save some money is all.
For the most part (unless the surgeon needs it, which if thats the case you should run, fast) the laser cataract surgery thing is a pure marketing scheme, money maker for the surgeon. I loathe how my profession has become a bunch of used car salesmen. Its disgusting the number of pure sales tactics that go on in the name of cataract surgery these days. I say that from a position of knowledge, not envy. I make a very good living, have a very successful practice, and help a lot of people see really well. I do not subscribe to the sales mantra of the majority of my colleagues in the profession.
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
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04/05/21 06:53 PM
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I’ll copy and paste /email your comments to doctors at RGB, And see what they say....
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
[Re: NewGulf]
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04/05/21 07:07 PM
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Feel free. I stand by my words, lets see how they stand behind their claims
My guess is they will spin the option to do laser cataract surgery as more a choice to correct mild astigmatism and then your next question would be “how much astigmatism did i have” and they will say you had less than one diopter and to that they will say your outcome is because of the incisions they did during the laser portion. Since you are insistent, i would love a follow up report on this, pm if you want or we can keep it public, i don’t care either way.
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
[Re: NewGulf]
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04/05/21 07:27 PM
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Keep it public. I'm trying to learn something here. I guess I may as well ask. At 71 would you do cataract surgery or just get new prescription glasses.
or maybe I don't even know what I talking about. Things getting a little blurry at a distance, like road signs. up close, no problem.
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
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04/05/21 07:32 PM
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Keep it public. I'm trying to learn something here. I guess I may as well ask. At 71 would you do cataract surgery or just get new prescription glasses.
or maybe I don't even know what I talking about. Things getting a little blurry at a distance, like road signs. up close, no problem. Very hard to say without looking at your eyes. Could be either, could be neither. I see a lot of folks who think they see great, and reality is they couldn’t pass a drivers test for without restrictions. I do surgery and almost every week hear people say within a day they could not believe what they were missing. Some people slowly adapt to their vision loss and don’t think much of it. Some lose one line and think they are crippled. Its fun. But without actually seeing your eyes, there is no way to tell what needs done
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
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04/05/21 07:56 PM
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Keep it public. I'm trying to learn something here. I guess I may as well ask. At 71 would you do cataract surgery or just get new prescription glasses.
or maybe I don't even know what I talking about. Things getting a little blurry at a distance, like road signs. up close, no problem. Mr T, and others. At 71 dont you get a regular eye exam, I think that would be your starting point on any specialty eye related issues. Im 68 and worn glasses since about 30. Cant see far away good at all. Just had my regular check up other day and we are friends so we got to talking. He highly recommends using the same doc for exams so they can notice trends over time as your eyes change. Hes told me for years I will eventually need to have cataract surgery. I also have macular degeneration in my family so thats an issue. He had me go to a specialist(I think a retina specialist for mag regen) a few years ago to mostly establish a baseline of where I was at and then compare over time. Just now hes having me see the specialist again since its been a few years. Between these two docs they will eventually advise me when its time to do something. At which time I will seriously consider using TexBuck, if he does that type thing, even though hes a couple hours away. Also, for what its worth, with my glasses I have 20/20 but he told me within 20/20 theres a big range and im about a 2 and some are a 10. In other words I still dont see real good even with new glasses. He said im not a candidate for lasik, and I probably asked him why, but I trust him completely so I dont remember his reply. Personally, I would never listen to sales pitches or advertisements on eye surgery without my regular eye doctor recommending. Same with my regular MD on recommending a specialized surgery beyond the eyes.
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Re: Lasic eye surgery after 50?
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04/06/21 03:11 AM
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Thanks for all of this info! What does this procedure usually cost? Which procedure are you asking about? Lasik ranges from 3500-4000 for both eyes, half for one eye. Refractive lens exchange is anywhere from 2800-5000 per eye depending on the lens chosen (this depends on the eye and the desired visual outcomes) Cash pay cataract surgery is around 2800 But cataract surgery and the YAG laser are covered by insurance and the cost to you depends on the insurance coverage and lens choice. Only lasik 
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