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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8208540 03/20/21 02:35 AM
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Wow, that was one of the more educational and interesting threads on the forum.


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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8208560 03/20/21 02:50 AM
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No problem. I imagine we aren't probably supposed to post links to stuff for sale on other sites but this one is for informational purposes only for you as this was an all original one I sold a decade ago on the CMP forum but gives you an idea of the type of info buyers will want to know (wish I still had it, sounds like it would sell for much more these days). I uploaded the photos again so the links are good. There are a TON of photos to prove provenance/originality. I wish go God I still owned this baby. The upgrades I did to the house 10 years ago are already in need of more work frown

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=51199


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Thank you Earl. I alway value your opinions. You are a wealth of knowledge on here. I have dove into the internet and am reading about just the things you are mentioning here. Learning a lot!!

My price is from what I see on gunbroker only.

Looking forward to learning more about these pieces of History.




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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8208570 03/20/21 03:03 AM
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Earl, those lockbars look a lot like Type 1, short pinion!

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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: JGW] #8208573 03/20/21 03:05 AM
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that's because they are. Extremely rare. Also large wheel EMcF ordnance stamp, and the front sight is still sealed. frown

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Earl, those lockbars look a lot like Type 1, short pinion!

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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8208584 03/20/21 03:24 AM
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Earl, you had me at “that’s because they are”!

In today’s market Type 1 Lockbars are going for at least $1k. I bought a “Grandpa’s deer rifle” a few years ago from the grandson. Grandpa had cut it down, shortened op rod, etc. (garage gunsmithing). It surprisingly ran fine. I wasn’t going to buy it and then I saw the rear sights. I couldn’t pull the dollar bills out of my pocket fast enough. All the other parts were original to the rifle as well. I assume he got it through the NRA or DCM back in the 60;s.

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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8219799 03/30/21 01:34 PM
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I have noticed several nice WWII rifles for sale but not much interest on here.

Why is this? Is everyone more interested in AR's because of impending possible restrictions? Panic buying of "anything" modern?


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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8219815 03/30/21 01:43 PM
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The people interested in a $1000+ 1903 Springfield, or $1200+ Garand are collectors- a fairly small niche. It's a big pill for the average shooter to swallow. They didn't move that quickly before COVID, so I think this is just a continuation of the same.

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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8219888 03/30/21 02:43 PM
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Not many folks are into shooting open sights. Old Military rifles are heavier types with lots of recoil. Like HicksHunter said, mostly for collectors. The one you posted is just a run of the mill M1 Grand with one part an even smaller amount of Collectors want. The nice refinishef stock actually drops the value of it to Collectors. I'd give $850 for it.

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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8219971 03/30/21 04:19 PM
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My buddy just sold one for $1,000.

Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8220054 03/30/21 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
I have noticed several nice WWII rifles for sale but not much interest on here.

Why is this? Is everyone more interested in AR's because of impending possible restrictions? Panic buying of "anything" modern?


Model Ts or Model As don't sell quick on a Mustang forum either. laugh

Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8220352 03/30/21 11:20 PM
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It's all about your intended buyer population. As others noted, there are only so many active collectors of older military weapons. While I've collected them in the past, I don't now. Used to be I could buy an all matching vet bring back K98 for $600 and I'm not talking some Russian capture imported piece of dog crap either. I could buy M1 Garands for the same $$. I paid the same $600-$700 for matching WW2 German Lugers in pristine condition WITH holsters. I had just about every WW2 German pistol in Whittington's German pistol books, many purchased from Whittington himself who was a friend . And examples of all of the rifles - extremely rare things like Steyr 29(0), G33/40, G91/40, G41, G43, etc. I also had about every Japanese WW2 rifle and pistol made with few exceptions including many concentric circle rifles, love of country guns, and many sniper rifles.. Indeed for years I was a nationally known collector in that field. If I could have held on to everything I owned at one time I'd probably be a very rich man now! smile

Those fields were and are small, buyers congregate on specific places and this isn't one of them. For US martial arms, the best place is the CMP forums.

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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8220379 03/30/21 11:57 PM
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True Earl, you have some really nice firearms.


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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8220660 03/31/21 11:29 AM
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It's a bad time to get into collecting. Most people are looking to fortify their "armory" and veteran collectors have higher aspirations than the ones you have for sale. There are three Garands and a Carbine for sale here and I would not pay four digits for any of them. Not because they are bad guns but because none of them are worth asking priceto me.


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...also a 1917 pistol and a 1903 Springfield on this forum for high asking prices and no action...

The M1 Carbine has been marked SPF, all the other WWI and WWII guns are still for sale.


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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8222001 04/01/21 01:35 PM
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I agree, most here are more concerned about self defence and hunting. It is a Hunting forum after all. Having much better luck on other forums. I am lowering the price on the Garand next week.


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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: Buzzsaw] #8222299 04/01/21 05:13 PM
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You'll find a bigger audience of potential buyers if you advertise on the CMP's classified forum section.

https://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=87

Lot's of folks who are looking for them who are familiar with CMP will start there. No wait time.

Get all the details you can off the rifle... see that data sheet I sent you the link to. At a minimum, you'll want info on the trigger group, op rod, barrel date and mfg, receiver s/n range, and any stock markings (I think this one was refinished).

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Re: M-1 Garand, values [Re: GasGuzzler] #8222304 04/01/21 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
...also a 1917 pistol and a 1903 Springfield on this forum for high asking prices and no action...

The M1 Carbine has been marked SPF, all the other WWI and WWII guns are still for sale.


With the exception of the 1917 pistol, in my opinion they are priced a little bit too high. Not much, but those that are looking for these know where to find them for about $100-200 cheaper. Not all of them fall into this category and the supply and demand changes, but that's been my observation.

Not trying to tell anyone to lower their price, just something to think about. It seems to be a market for selling ammo and firearms that are making headlines.


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It's worth the drive to Alabama to hand pick your own. I went 7 years ago and got a awesome HRA. Thing shoots lights out.



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If you go the CMP route, you will not get a re-weld. Period. It can't go back through the US Army property books as an active firearm if it's been demilled.

You can (or used to be able) buy ceremonial rifles that were welded (bolts had the selector switch welded) and you could get some nice wall hangers or parts guns as JGW pointed out.

There for a while, some of the A4 (03-A3 sniper variant) bolt actions were on the market after being re-welded, but they were through other commercial sources.

I strongly concur that the best Garand and surplus WWI, WWII, and Korean service rifles can be had through the CMP. Just pick your price point and you will not be disappointed. And if anything ever goes wrong with it... the have always taken care of it without hesitation. If you have deep pockets and really want to support the CMP mission, I'd encourage you to go through the CMP auction route. A while back there was a pair of unissued Korean era Garands still in paper.


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