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solar farms #8197845 03/10/21 12:21 AM
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Has anyone hunted where solar farms have built arrays of panels ? What problems could one expect?

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Hunted next to a 1500 acre farm in September.

Besides being ugly as sin it doesent affect much. A solar farm is useless for wildlife


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spent the entire season hunting next to one being built. It obviously changed travel patterns as they clear cut the section next door and were working 7 days a week sun up to sun down. They appear to be building many more all around the property. It takes great wildlife habitat and turns it into a GIANT eye sore. I believe the property we hunt is being affected but once done, it should improve the hunting as we will have the only cover and travel corridor outside of wide open solar farms. People fight against the wind farms but must not see what a solar farm looks like. barf

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Originally Posted by esnow74
spent the entire season hunting next to one being built. It obviously changed travel patterns as they clear cut the section next door and were working 7 days a week sun up to sun down. They appear to be building many more all around the property. It takes great wildlife habitat and turns it into a GIANT eye sore. I believe the property we hunt is being affected but once done, it should improve the hunting as we will have the only cover and travel corridor outside of wide open solar farms. People fight against the wind farms but must not see what a solar farm looks like. barf


The people of Van Zandt county fought like hell and got the Old Jackson project shelved. People here knew what an eye-sore, property value killer, and habitat/range destroyer they are. They certainly can be stopped if the county (and more so the school districts & commissioners courts who are giving the tax abatements) listen and back their constituents. Now we are battling another company leasing in the NW part of the county.

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Listened to a lib that works in green energy on a meateater pod cast. He said the plan is to go totally green and they will need a land footprint the size of Texas in order to possibly produce enough energy through wind and solar. The plan is to purchase or use existing public land. Votes matter...solar farms and wind mills are an eyesore that obviously (based on what happen a few weeks ago) don't work!

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Originally Posted by BassBuster1
Listened to a lib that works in green energy on a meateater pod cast. He said the plan is to go totally green and they will need a land footprint the size of Texas in order to possibly produce enough energy through wind and solar. The plan is to purchase or use existing public land. Votes matter...solar farms and wind mills are an eyesore that obviously (based on what happen a few weeks ago) don't work!



i listened to that podcast as well.....when he said it would be projected the footprint would be as big as Texas it didn't go over too well.



I hate solar farms.....hate them. I think Nuclear energy needs to be explored further personally if we need to get away from fossil fuels


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We have a couple around here they look bad.

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The impact will be getting bigger as turbines bet bigger and the repairs get scrapped. There is not much to be recycled on a turbine

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Originally Posted by Espy
We have a couple around here they look bad.



They look horrible, and they kill 100% of the native habitat where they are built.

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Waste of land. When I was hunting last year in Crane I went in a bar that was packed with out of towners that were building a solar farm in McCamey on 800 acres. I thought the windmills were destroying the Tx landscape. These are much worse. I didn’t check that one out but I’ve seen the one south of Abilene.

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They are taking over one of my favorite quail pastures.


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The impact will be getting bigger as turbines bet bigger and the repairs get scrapped. There is not much to be recycled on a turbine

Respectfully disagree. All components on a WTG can be recycled with the exception of the blades. Which is what you show in your picture. The base, mid, top , nacelle, generator and rotor are all recycled or refurbished. Since the blades are a composite layer of fiberglass, balsa wood and resin they can't be recycled due to the resin compound.


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Last year I hunted dove with a friend who works for an engineering consulting firm, they are involved with a solar farm west of Phoenix that will cover 12,000+ acres. He asked the owners if we could hunt there. They were concerned about use shooting a few doves, he (wildlife biologist) explained they are going to exterminate every creature and plant on the land so the dozen doves aren’t going to matter.

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To BassBuster1, how well did natural gas work during the outage?

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Originally Posted by Brother Phil
To BassBuster1, how well did natural gas work during the outage?


Mine worked great, I live in the County and have a 500 gal propane tank! I also have a wood stove and had three cords of wood split, stacked, and tarped off ready to go. We stayed warm and cooked food because of that stove. We also had water stored and live right on Ray Roberts, I would have had to cut through the ice but water was readily available. I backpack some and have two water pumps used to purify water if we need it. We are not preppers but we are very prepared and try to live self sufficient with gardening, hunting, and fishing. I am also saving up for a nice generator because the cheaper one I have now failed. The storm taught me once again that we can not ever depend on govt. for our safety, services, or salvation. I also learned that who we can and should depend on is our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ, our families, our church families, our neighbors, and our fellow Texans as there were so many instances where love, kindness and charity were offered as we helped each other get through a tough week.

Government projects being forced on citizens who do not want them are not the answer! I am not saying that drilling holes in every piece of public land is the answer either but at least the land is still useable after the rigs move on. Solar farms ruin completely the land they occupy. Wind farms while not completely ruining the landscape, cheapen for me the grandeur of the space they occupy. I recently stood on a high spot in South Texas close to the Devils River as the sun was dipping below the horizon. Instead of the fantastic sunset, all I could pay attention to were those dang blinking red lights on a distant wind farm. The old commercial of the Native American standing next to a fence with a tear rolling down his cheek came to mind...it was disappointing! There has to be a better way!

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Originally Posted by BassBuster1
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To BassBuster1, how well did natural gas work during the outage?


Mine worked great, I live in the County and have a 500 gal propane tank! I also have a wood stove and had three cords of wood split, stacked, and tarped off ready to go. We stayed warm and cooked food because of that stove. We also had water stored and live right on Ray Roberts, I would have had to cut through the ice but water was readily available. I backpack some and have two water pumps used to purify water if we need it. We are not preppers but we are very prepared and try to live self sufficient with gardening, hunting, and fishing. I am also saving up for a nice generator because the cheaper one I have now failed. The storm taught me once again that we can not ever depend on govt. for our safety, services, or salvation. I also learned that who we can and should depend on is our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ, our families, our church families, our neighbors, and our fellow Texans as there were so many instances where love, kindness and charity were offered as we helped each other get through a tough week.

Government projects being forced on citizens who do not want them are not the answer! I am not saying that drilling holes in every piece of public land is the answer either but at least the land is still useable after the rigs move on. Solar farms ruin completely the land they occupy. Wind farms while not completely ruining the landscape, cheapen for me the grandeur of the space they occupy. I recently stood on a high spot in South Texas close to the Devils River as the sun was dipping below the horizon. Instead of the fantastic sunset, all I could pay attention to were those dang blinking red lights on a distant wind farm. The old commercial of the Native American standing next to a fence with a tear rolling down his cheek came to mind...it was disappointing! There has to be a better way!



Amen.

Some would say though, that this is the new normal so get used to it. Just like wearing masks.

I don't want anything to do with the new normal. I want sunrises and sunsets without human interference. I want to go grocery shopping without some brainwashed MSM/CDC fed idiot confronting me about not wearing a cloth mask.

Give me back the 80's & 90's. I could fish wherever I wanted to back then too. Nobody in a uniform screaming GTFO out here right now, in the name of "public safety".

I'm feeling Merle Haggard.


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The impact will be getting bigger as turbines bet bigger and the repairs get scrapped. There is not much to be recycled on a turbine

Respectfully disagree. All components on a WTG can be recycled with the exception of the blades. Which is what you show in your picture. The base, mid, top , nacelle, generator and rotor are all recycled or refurbished. Since the blades are a composite layer of fiberglass, balsa wood and resin they can't be recycled due to the resin compound.



A lot more foam core then balsa and you noticed nobody wants to talk about how pvc/polyester core foam is made...


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Originally Posted by BassBuster1
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To BassBuster1, how well did natural gas work during the outage?


Mine worked great, I live in the County and have a 500 gal propane tank! I also have a wood stove and had three cords of wood split, stacked, and tarped off ready to go. We stayed warm and cooked food because of that stove. We also had water stored and live right on Ray Roberts, I would have had to cut through the ice but water was readily available. I backpack some and have two water pumps used to purify water if we need it. We are not preppers but we are very prepared and try to live self sufficient with gardening, hunting, and fishing. I am also saving up for a nice generator because the cheaper one I have now failed. The storm taught me once again that we can not ever depend on govt. for our safety, services, or salvation. I also learned that who we can and should depend on is our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ, our families, our church families, our neighbors, and our fellow Texans as there were so many instances where love, kindness and charity were offered as we helped each other get through a tough week.

Government projects being forced on citizens who do not want them are not the answer! I am not saying that drilling holes in every piece of public land is the answer either but at least the land is still useable after the rigs move on. Solar farms ruin completely the land they occupy. Wind farms while not completely ruining the landscape, cheapen for me the grandeur of the space they occupy. I recently stood on a high spot in South Texas close to the Devils River as the sun was dipping below the horizon. Instead of the fantastic sunset, all I could pay attention to were those dang blinking red lights on a distant wind farm. The old commercial of the Native American standing next to a fence with a tear rolling down his cheek came to mind...it was disappointing! There has to be a better way!



Very well said.

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To BassBuster1, how well did natural gas work during the outage?


Mine worked great, I live in the County and have a 500 gal propane tank! I also have a wood stove and had three cords of wood split, stacked, and tarped off ready to go. We stayed warm and cooked food because of that stove. We also had water stored and live right on Ray Roberts, I would have had to cut through the ice but water was readily available. I backpack some and have two water pumps used to purify water if we need it. We are not preppers but we are very prepared and try to live self sufficient with gardening, hunting, and fishing. I am also saving up for a nice generator because the cheaper one I have now failed. The storm taught me once again that we can not ever depend on govt. for our safety, services, or salvation. I also learned that who we can and should depend on is our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ, our families, our church families, our neighbors, and our fellow Texans as there were so many instances where love, kindness and charity were offered as we helped each other get through a tough week.

Government projects being forced on citizens who do not want them are not the answer! I am not saying that drilling holes in every piece of public land is the answer either but at least the land is still useable after the rigs move on. Solar farms ruin completely the land they occupy. Wind farms while not completely ruining the landscape, cheapen for me the grandeur of the space they occupy. I recently stood on a high spot in South Texas close to the Devils River as the sun was dipping below the horizon. Instead of the fantastic sunset, all I could pay attention to were those dang blinking red lights on a distant wind farm. The old commercial of the Native American standing next to a fence with a tear rolling down his cheek came to mind...it was disappointing! There has to be a better way!



Very well said.


Agreed

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Wind farms are bad enough, but solar farms are even worse. Solar farms clear the land where there is nothing for animals or birds to hide. Acre after acre of nothing but panels that rotate to catch the rays of the sun. Not only does it remove the solar farm land from being productive for hunting. It changes travel patterns forever. I would rather try to hunt on a wind turbine farm than a solar panel farm.


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I appreciate everyone's input..actually haven't seen a solar farm except in pictures. Most folks that own ranches around here will not lease the land out as they loose control...as they say. Good money I suppose but we loose so much that we as hunters see and appreciate that some owners don't see as they may grow up in the city.
In the morning hunts somewhere around 05:00am I used to sit on the steps outside my blind and just listen to the coyotes and give thanks for the ability to hunt. I write the owners and give thanks for being able to lease their land each year when I send off my money. I have leased their land a little less than 30 years..When I leave the lease ..I can't wait til I can return. Loosing the lease will be loosing a big part of my life...with great memories.

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Originally Posted by BenBob
Wind farms are bad enough, but solar farms are even worse. Solar farms clear the land where there is nothing for animals or birds to hide. Acre after acre of nothing but panels that rotate to catch the rays of the sun. Not only does it remove the solar farm land from being productive for hunting. It changes travel patterns forever. I would rather try to hunt on a wind turbine farm than a solar panel farm.



EXACTLY

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I hate them. They destroy the land and look like total crap.

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I hate them. They destroy the land and look like total crap.


Wildlife and plant life mean nothing to the climate change conspiracy followers.

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Originally Posted by BenBob
Wind farms are bad enough, but solar farms are even worse. Solar farms clear the land where there is nothing for animals or birds to hide. Acre after acre of nothing but panels that rotate to catch the rays of the sun. Not only does it remove the solar farm land from being productive for hunting. It changes travel patterns forever. I would rather try to hunt on a wind turbine farm than a solar panel farm.


From what I’ve seen, You can’t hunt a solar farm. You can hunt around them but they are totally fenced in with high fence. They turn the land that they are built on into toxic dump wastelands.


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