So, I've settled on my next project. Its a Mauser currently chambered in 30-06. It was a post-WW2 import that a US company purchased and sold as inexpensive hunting rifles. My dad got it for me when I was very young and still learning to shoot. The problem with this one is it is chambered too tightly (you have to reload and push the shoulder back as standard spec rounds won't chamber) and frankly kicks like a mule too. When I am done she will be fitted with a medium fancy American Black Walnut stock. What I will build it out as, I still haven't decided. An obvious choice would be 7X57 or even dare I say 6.5 Creedmoor. Since I do reload I could also do 6.5-06 A-Square but I've never seen one of these. However, the performance looks appealing. So, If you were build out on a long action Mauser, what would you choose and why ?
Really like my 6.5-284 Norma. Do that round on a long action and throated so you can seat the bullets out long.
6.5-06, AI or A-Square are all interesting though as would be the 28AI
A lot depends on what you want to do with it
I've been doing more reading and the 6.5-284 and 6.5-06 are very close... and like the idea of giving it more space so I can seat the bullets long. It doesn't look difficult to make 6.5-06 brass from 30-06 and there are tons of that.... My real purpose, to think of it clearly.... is really to get something really flat shooting and to work within 600yrds (and to give myself something fun to do). I'm not seeing myself trying to shoot further than that on a regular basis. That's also the reason I've been looking at 24" barrels.
All I have taken my 6.5-284 to is 790 yards which really isn't hard with it, like all of them the wind is the hardest thing especially with a good reliable dial scope. That is a Cooper with a 24 inch barrel and I can get 2900fps from it with 140 gr bullets. Never have banged steel with it but busting rocks is fun. With those type cartridges expect around 1000 or perhaps a bit more barrel life.
6.5-06 will have cheaper brass but very good brass is available from Lapua, Norma and Nosler for the 6.5-284.
Inside 600 the 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08 (ballistic twin of the 7X57) will work well, or the 6.5X57 which I found to be quite accurate and fun. Heck the 284 Winchester throated long would be a good one also.
AI the 7X57 and it will improve those ballistics some, the case it tapered enough to get some extra powder room
Got me thinking back to some of my projects and favorites.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
All I have taken my 6.5-284 to is 790 yards which really isn't hard with it, like all of them the wind is the hardest thing especially with a good reliable dial scope. That is a Cooper with a 24 inch barrel and I can get 2900fps from it with 140 gr bullets. Never have banged steel with it but busting rocks is fun. With those type cartridges expect around 1000 or perhaps a bit more barrel life.
6.5-06 will have cheaper brass but very good brass is available from Lapua, Norma and Nosler for the 6.5-284.
Inside 600 the 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08 (ballistic twin of the 7X57) will work well, or the 6.5X57 which I found to be quite accurate and fun. Heck the 284 Winchester throated long would be a good one also.
AI the 7X57 and it will improve those ballistics some, the case it tapered enough to get some extra powder room
Got me thinking back to some of my projects and favorites.
I love getting the chance to do this stuff. My dad did a lot of it when I was a kid. That is how I learned reloading - from him. And, I built a couple with my son... I finally have a little time now (and a little more $$)... I am making my parts list for this build and picking up a few tools along the way like a barrel vise and action wrench. Just got a drill press over Christmas.... It's learning, craftsmanship and it's all fun...
To be a little different, how about the 6.5 Swede?
I love the 6.5 Swede ! Inherently accurate by design... I am holding on to a small ring Mauser, Carl Gustaf stamped receiver for a friend until he decides what he wants to do with it. Tried to get him to sell it to me but no luck...
The .284 based rounds are going to be hard to get to feed perfectly from the CRF which is tuned to the mag box. A classic Mauser should have more of a "classic" cartridge. I would be looking at 7x57, .257 Roberts or maybe even a .270. A little .257 Roberts on a Mauser with a classic walnut stock would be a perfect whitetail rifle. You would just sit there in the blind, look over at it and smile.
Two really good old school cartridges that go with a Mauser action like peanut butter and jelly are 7x57 and 6.5 Swede. One of these is what I would do. If I wanted the Mauser to breathe a little more fire, I would go 280 AI.
The .284 based rounds are going to be hard to get to feed perfectly from the CRF which is tuned to the mag box. A classic Mauser should have more of a "classic" cartridge. I would be looking at 7x57, .257 Roberts or maybe even a .270. A little .257 Roberts on a Mauser with a classic walnut stock would be a perfect whitetail rifle. You would just sit there in the blind, look over at it and smile.
What do you teach? Because you're wrong here.
.284" is 7mm
You're saying a long action .284 won't feed, but a .277" will.
Mag boxes get tuned every day.
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The .284 based rounds are going to be hard to get to feed perfectly from the CRF which is tuned to the mag box. A classic Mauser should have more of a "classic" cartridge. I would be looking at 7x57, .257 Roberts or maybe even a .270. A little .257 Roberts on a Mauser with a classic walnut stock would be a perfect whitetail rifle. You would just sit there in the blind, look over at it and smile.
What do you teach? Because you're wrong here.
.284" is 7mm
You're saying a long action .284 won't feed, but a .277" will.
Mag boxes get tuned every day.
I teach people not to be [censored] and jump to conclusions .. I was talking about the actual .284 Win. cartridge.
The .284 based rounds are going to be hard to get to feed perfectly from the CRF which is tuned to the mag box. A classic Mauser should have more of a "classic" cartridge. I would be looking at 7x57, .257 Roberts or maybe even a .270. A little .257 Roberts on a Mauser with a classic walnut stock would be a perfect whitetail rifle. You would just sit there in the blind, look over at it and smile.
What do you teach? Because you're wrong here.
.284" is 7mm
You're saying a long action .284 won't feed, but a .277" will.
Mag boxes get tuned every day.
I teach people not to be [censored] and jump to conclusions .. I was talking about the actual .284 Win. cartridge.
thinking about that you well might be right, with the 284 Winchester and it's offspring having the rebated rim, but it can be one Winchester CF M70s were chambered in it IIRC.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
The .284 based rounds are going to be hard to get to feed perfectly from the CRF which is tuned to the mag box. A classic Mauser should have more of a "classic" cartridge. I would be looking at 7x57, .257 Roberts or maybe even a .270. A little .257 Roberts on a Mauser with a classic walnut stock would be a perfect whitetail rifle. You would just sit there in the blind, look over at it and smile.
What do you teach? Because you're wrong here.
.284" is 7mm
You're saying a long action .284 won't feed, but a .277" will.
Mag boxes get tuned every day.
I teach people not to be [censored] and jump to conclusions .. I was talking about the actual .284 Win. cartridge.
Just a conversation no one is being (whatever you said)
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6.5x57 is another good one, just neck down a 7X57 or neck up 257 Roberts brass .007 inches. worked up loads for an old Japanese Arisaka that had been rechambered to that. Was pleasantly surprised how accurate that old rifle was with 160gr Hornady round nose bullets.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
6.5 - 06: I like the velocity and I can easily reload for it 6.5 X 57: Probably because I like the 7 X57 and I can easily reload for it 7 X 57: Its a classic, not flashy but a consistent mainstay, probably the first larger caliber rifle I ever shot well
I order a new bolt shroud & Timney Trigger... looking at a American Black Walnut stock medium fancy grade, deciding on a barrel with #3 contour and staying at 24
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.. I was talking about the actual .284 Win. cartridge. 