Forums46
Topics537,001
Posts9,719,332
Members86,987
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8186089
02/27/21 11:39 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
I made the change back to gas this year in a 6.2 f250 2018. I cannot afford to maintain/fuel, and risk the possible fixes after warranty runs out. The way the new diesels have to be made are just a ticking time bomb unless you run them 24/7. I have actually enjoyed the change over and don’t regret it one bit. It’s deff a lug compared to the 6.7 i treaded in on it but it still has more than enough to tow a 100hp tractor or cattle trailer when needed
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: Navasot]
#8186094
02/27/21 11:41 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
This is also the first Larger gas truck iv Had in 10 years
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: Navasot]
#8186112
02/27/21 11:54 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779
txtrophy85
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779 |
This is also the first Larger gas truck iv Had in 10 years Just day to day driving how do you like it,? My issue this second on trading into a new gasser is that I would spend more on a equally equipped gas truck than I did on this diesel. I’m a nutshell I would be paying more for a lesser truck. I’m gonna wait until the production shortage levels out and prices become reasonable again. I probably will go to a gas 7.3 liter on 35’s when it’s time to trade off
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8186125
02/28/21 12:00 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 14,024
Hudbone
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 14,024 |
Larger trucks are not just about the engine and pulling power. Suspension and especially brakes come with them also.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: Hudbone]
#8186143
02/28/21 12:14 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779
txtrophy85
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779 |
Larger trucks are not just about the engine and pulling power. Suspension and especially brakes come with them also. Exactly right. I’m looking at the 3/4 ton platform because I beat this one to death and have only had to replace some minor front end steering components at this point. My 1500 Chevy I had to put 3 sets of ball joints by 80k My F-150 held up pretty dang well, but i wouldn’t want to pull my trailer with it all the time. I seem to recall it pulled my 20’ boat ok but that was a pretty light rig.....can am and trailer is a heavier rig. 3/4 ton trucks are not the most comfortable off road but I think it’s a good of a compromise as I’m going to be able to get in a truck. I also may have the odd call to pull a heavier travel trailer, tractor or skid loader that would be too much for a half ton
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8186180
02/28/21 12:45 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
This is also the first Larger gas truck iv Had in 10 years Just day to day driving how do you like it,? My issue this second on trading into a new gasser is that I would spend more on a equally equipped gas truck than I did on this diesel. I’m a nutshell I would be paying more for a lesser truck. I’m gonna wait until the production shortage levels out and prices become reasonable again. I probably will go to a gas 7.3 liter on 35’s when it’s time to trade off I enjoy it. Rides much better than my 6.7 and is quiet. Does better off road as well and much better in the recent snow. I did my first service for about the price of the fuel filters on the 6.7
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
#8186193
02/28/21 01:05 AM
|
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 31,055
HWY_MAN
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 31,055 |
honest question, what is everyone's fascination with such tall tires??? Go down in rim size and up in tire size, and if you run appropriate pressure you have a huge difference in ride. Side wall flex is like a second set of shocks. I run 35” tires on 18” rims. I run 45 PSI up front and 40 in rear. There is a night and day difference in ridge quality on F250. For what ever reason I get more even tire wear also. Everybody talking about going to 18's. I will never own another truck with 20 inch aluminum rims, I've cracked and ruined 5 rims now on my last GMC, it's always the inside bead where it's about 1/3 the thickness of the outside.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8186251
02/28/21 01:55 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 270
glazer1972
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 270 |
I'd get a gas if I were looking. Just too much extra expense on the diesel. Unless it was hooked to a heavy trailer 24/7 I don't think it ever pay for the difference.
Last edited by glazer1972; 02/28/21 01:57 AM.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: glazer1972]
#8186363
02/28/21 03:51 AM
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 27,891
skinnerback
THF Celebrity Chef
|
THF Celebrity Chef
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 27,891 |
I'd get a gas if I were looking. Just too much extra expense on the diesel. Unless it was hooked to a heavy trailer 24/7 I don't think it ever pay for the difference. Very few diesel trucks are hooked to a heavy trailer 24/7, but when you do hook up to a heavy trailer or RV it's worth it's weight in gold. I wish I would have bought a diesel sooner. If I didn't need one, I would still be driving a gas truck.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8186467
02/28/21 11:43 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 14,024
Hudbone
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 14,024 |
I do not work out of or with my truck. Used for the deer lease and to help out friends. After riding with me a few times under load, Wifeypoo insisted I upgrade early in the vehicle's life (three years) to a diesel. Six years later, I just cannot imagine going backward. Should have done it a lot sooner.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: HWY_MAN]
#8186864
02/28/21 06:30 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779
txtrophy85
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779 |
honest question, what is everyone's fascination with such tall tires??? Go down in rim size and up in tire size, and if you run appropriate pressure you have a huge difference in ride. Side wall flex is like a second set of shocks. I run 35” tires on 18” rims. I run 45 PSI up front and 40 in rear. There is a night and day difference in ridge quality on F250. For what ever reason I get more even tire wear also. Everybody talking about going to 18's. I will never own another truck with 20 inch aluminum rims, I've cracked and ruined 5 rims now on my last GMC, it's always the inside bead where it's about 1/3 the thickness of the outside. My truck came stock with 20” wheels. I upgraded to 35” tires and then a buddy sold me a good set of shiny chrome wheels for $500. Found out quick that that tire/wheel combo didn’t ride good and didn’t have enough sidewall grip so I moved up to 37” tires, which on my truck didn’t require any modifications other than a level kit to run that large of a tire. Next truck will have 18” wheels and 35’s. IMO that’s the best combo for a truck
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8186977
02/28/21 08:33 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 16,562
68rustbucket
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 16,562 |
Only good thing about 20” wheels is the lower profile sidewalls carry more weight.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8187005
02/28/21 09:01 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 5,883
Ol Thumper
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 5,883 |
I have to have diesel‘s but id drive a gasser for a daily driver if I rarely towed anything. I know a lot of people including my wife that drives diesels that honestly have no business owning them but if that’s what they want then so be it. The biggest problem with owning one is trying not to own one Once you get use to it i would imagine it’s a very hard thing to get away from but it’s a crap shoot on the decision of buying or not to buy... Yes their more expensive to buy, own and operate but then again the resale is so much higher that alone would push me back to a diesel but I’m a redneck that tows 40,000 pounds behind one so I’m a little biased lol.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8187089
02/28/21 11:06 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,416
TLew
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,416 |
The only way I would go back to a gasser is if I got a TRX or the new V8 version of the raptor. It obviously wouldn’t solve my towing problems and it’s more about smiles per gallon so who gives a chit
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8187694
03/01/21 01:53 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,900
Jgraider
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,900 |
Loving my 2020 Ram Ecodiesel so far, but only have 13k miles on it. I have the 3.92 rear end, and tow my small camper or UTV and still get 14mpg. Setting cruise to 75 without a headwind and it will easily get 25mpg. Interior is nicest of any 1/2t truck made and I've had them all. Runs circles around the Chevy/GMC and Tundras we've had. We'll see about long term reliability later.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: HWY_MAN]
#8187751
03/01/21 02:13 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
honest question, what is everyone's fascination with such tall tires??? Go down in rim size and up in tire size, and if you run appropriate pressure you have a huge difference in ride. Side wall flex is like a second set of shocks. I run 35” tires on 18” rims. I run 45 PSI up front and 40 in rear. There is a night and day difference in ridge quality on F250. For what ever reason I get more even tire wear also. Everybody talking about going to 18's. I will never own another truck with 20 inch aluminum rims, I've cracked and ruined 5 rims now on my last GMC, it's always the inside bead where it's about 1/3 the thickness of the outside. I did this as well.... you will even save money on tires
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8187760
03/01/21 02:18 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
Just to shed light on the pulling side... we changed all of our delivery vehicles to the sxt gas single cab lwb trucks... they are 100% hooked up to a trailer every day and tow up to 125hp tractors and hay equipment every day.... they have had very little issues compared to previous diesel trucks before them.... all mostly def related.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: Navasot]
#8187776
03/01/21 02:30 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,262
BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
|
kind of a big deal
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,262 |
Just to shed light on the pulling side... we changed all of our delivery vehicles to the sxt gas single cab lwb trucks... they are 100% hooked up to a trailer every day and tow up to 125hp tractors and hay equipment every day.... they have had very little issues compared to previous diesel trucks before them.... all mostly def related. That's my biggest issue with my truck. Third DEF heater is out. I'm sure in close to needing a new filter I'm sure
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
#8188043
03/01/21 05:44 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779
txtrophy85
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779 |
Just to shed light on the pulling side... we changed all of our delivery vehicles to the sxt gas single cab lwb trucks... they are 100% hooked up to a trailer every day and tow up to 125hp tractors and hay equipment every day.... they have had very little issues compared to previous diesel trucks before them.... all mostly def related. That's my biggest issue with my truck. Third DEF heater is out. I'm sure in close to needing a new filter I'm sure do you idle/drive at low speeds with no highway time alot?
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
#8188282
03/01/21 09:04 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,658
Dustnsand
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,658 |
Just to shed light on the pulling side... we changed all of our delivery vehicles to the sxt gas single cab lwb trucks... they are 100% hooked up to a trailer every day and tow up to 125hp tractors and hay equipment every day.... they have had very little issues compared to previous diesel trucks before them.... all mostly def related. That's my biggest issue with my truck. Third DEF heater is out. I'm sure in close to needing a new filter I'm sure I've went through one on my work duramax. 70k miles and that has been the only issue so can't complain to much but it's still annoying to have it in the first place
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8188871
03/02/21 05:32 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,419
Sewer rat
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,419 |
I have had 9 diesel pickups with DEF as well as a semi and a skid steer that take it. I have had zero emissions related issues out of any of them. I don’t like all the emission crap but it has been trouble free for me. They say idling is the worst for them. My 19 F-250 has 710 idle hours and my 20 Ram 2500 has 232 idle hours.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: Sewer rat]
#8189112
03/02/21 02:19 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,481
redchevy
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,481 |
I have had 9 diesel pickups with DEF as well as a semi and a skid steer that take it. I have had zero emissions related issues out of any of them. I don’t like all the emission crap but it has been trouble free for me. They say idling is the worst for them. My 19 F-250 has 710 idle hours and my 20 Ram 2500 has 232 idle hours. My 2015 RAM has 254 idle hours... I agree working them and getting them up to temp is a big help. Even with my little 1/2 ton diesel it takes 10+ miles for it to fully warm up in the winter and not much less during the summer. When I had my 2010 3500 cummins driving it empty in the winter i dont think it every really warmed up all the way lol.
It's hell eatin em live
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: redchevy]
#8189200
03/02/21 03:33 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,419
Sewer rat
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,419 |
My 2015 RAM has 254 idle hours...
That is what I am getting at. As much as we idle I would think if anyone had problems it would be us and we just haven't seen it. We do usually get them up to temp though. The trucks don't move every day or even every week but when they do it usually at least 50 miles a day. My truck is basically my office at work. Often it gets started at 5:30 AM and isn't turned off until 6PM.
Last edited by Sewer rat; 03/02/21 03:37 PM.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8190742
03/03/21 05:24 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779
txtrophy85
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,779 |
842 idle hours on my truck. If I remember right if you are under 20 mph it records it as idle hours which accounts for majority of mine. If I’m gonna actually idle I turn it off
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
|
|
|
Re: It’s getting real now...Gas vs. Diesel
[Re: Sewer rat]
#8190902
03/03/21 07:49 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,262
BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
|
kind of a big deal
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,262 |
I have had 9 diesel pickups with DEF as well as a semi and a skid steer that take it. I have had zero emissions related issues out of any of them. I don’t like all the emission crap but it has been trouble free for me. They say idling is the worst for them. My 19 F-250 has 710 idle hours and my 20 Ram 2500 has 232 idle hours. I've had two DEF trucks and both have had DEF pump and heater issues.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, txcornhusker
|