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 Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 07:51 PM
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My Honda EX2200 is all I want to pick up. My Champion 3500 is 200lb, and bolted to cargo trailer tongue. Engine hoist only for it.
Tying 2 Honda 2000 together would be the ticket. They are suitcase style generators.
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 08:07 PM
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My Honda EX2200 is all I want to pick up. My Champion 3500 is 200lb, and bolted to cargo trailer tongue. Engine hoist only for it.
Tying 2 Honda 2000 together would be the ticket. They are suitcase style generators. I use that hitch mounted winch you sold me to lift my 3000 in and out of the truck it I’m alone. Works great!
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 08:21 PM
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I've always been a "bigger is better" guy, but my little Champion 2000 watt has really changed by outlook. ( I like the reliability of Honda... but I cheaped out since I considered it buying a backup to the big generator
Less that 5 gallons of fuel per day to run the furnace blower, router, TV, and all the lights we wanted. If I had my older open-frame running, it would have been shaking the windows and would have burned 2 1/2 times the fuel to run the same stuff. Unplugging the other stuff to run the microwave for 5 minutes was well worth the fuel and weight trade off.
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Re: Honda generators
[Re: krmitchell]
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02/18/21 08:29 PM
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My Honda EX2200 is all I want to pick up. My Champion 3500 is 200lb, and bolted to cargo trailer tongue. Engine hoist only for it.
Tying 2 Honda 2000 together would be the ticket. They are suitcase style generators. I use that hitch mounted winch you sold me to lift my 3000 in and out of the truck it I’m alone. Works great! Glad that worked out! It lifted a few s Texas deer and hogs.
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 08:38 PM
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Few years ago, my research led me to a Honda 2800i. The 2000 would stagfer when hitting the trigger onna circular saw, many reported. The 3000 is a 150 pound machine. No doubt a really high quality piece of equipment. But, I wanted to be able to move the generator to truck, trailer and Mule quickly, by hand. Yeah, I can do 150 pounds, but too many times of that is not good on an already sore back. The 2800i is 18" x 18" x 18" and under 80 pounds. Whole lotta power in a small package.
My thinking has always been if Honda's name is on it, it is good equipment.
And do a search on engine break-in procedures. Honda does not publish one. I searched, and it led me to a forum like this one. It was food truck guys that use generators every day. One guy had a really good break-in procedure.
Low quality Pennzoil for 5 minute idle, 5 minute 50% load, 5 minute 100% load, 5 minute idle. Drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, ^^same process^^ drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, run it an 8 hour day under various load. Drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, run as needed. Change the oil every 100 hours. I just run mobile one and change once a year. With that said the oil change on the eu2000 pretty simple. Draining carb is it's greatest design feature.
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 08:41 PM
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Champion 3500 as in the yellow and black 3500 watt generators? If they weigh 200 lbs I’m stronger than I look
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 08:46 PM
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Champion 3500 as in the yellow and black 3500 watt generators? If they weigh 200 lbs I’m stronger than I look Probably the none inverter model
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 09:33 PM
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Few years ago, my research led me to a Honda 2800i. The 2000 would stagfer when hitting the trigger onna circular saw, many reported. The 3000 is a 150 pound machine. No doubt a really high quality piece of equipment. But, I wanted to be able to move the generator to truck, trailer and Mule quickly, by hand. Yeah, I can do 150 pounds, but too many times of that is not good on an already sore back. The 2800i is 18" x 18" x 18" and under 80 pounds. Whole lotta power in a small package.
My thinking has always been if Honda's name is on it, it is good equipment.
And do a search on engine break-in procedures. Honda does not publish one. I searched, and it led me to a forum like this one. It was food truck guys that use generators every day. One guy had a really good break-in procedure.
Low quality Pennzoil for 5 minute idle, 5 minute 50% load, 5 minute 100% load, 5 minute idle. Drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, ^^same process^^ drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, run it an 8 hour day under various load. Drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, run as needed. Change the oil every 100 hours. I just run mobile one and change once a year. With that said the oil change on the eu2000 pretty simple. Draining carb is it's greatest design feature. The guy that wrote those instructions claimed 10,000 hours run time when he did that break-in. They wouldn't make that if he didn't do the break-in. $15 and less than 30 minutes. The first oil drain, I drained into a clear bottle. I could see aluminum bits all in the oil. But if you think it isn't worth your time and effort, more power to you.
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Re: Honda generators
[Re: J.G.]
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02/18/21 09:52 PM
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Few years ago, my research led me to a Honda 2800i. The 2000 would stagfer when hitting the trigger onna circular saw, many reported. The 3000 is a 150 pound machine. No doubt a really high quality piece of equipment. But, I wanted to be able to move the generator to truck, trailer and Mule quickly, by hand. Yeah, I can do 150 pounds, but too many times of that is not good on an already sore back. The 2800i is 18" x 18" x 18" and under 80 pounds. Whole lotta power in a small package.
My thinking has always been if Honda's name is on it, it is good equipment.
And do a search on engine break-in procedures. Honda does not publish one. I searched, and it led me to a forum like this one. It was food truck guys that use generators every day. One guy had a really good break-in procedure.
Low quality Pennzoil for 5 minute idle, 5 minute 50% load, 5 minute 100% load, 5 minute idle. Drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, ^^same process^^ drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, run it an 8 hour day under various load. Drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, run as needed. Change the oil every 100 hours. I just run mobile one and change once a year. With that said the oil change on the eu2000 pretty simple. Draining carb is it's greatest design feature. The guy that wrote those instructions claimed 10,000 hours run time when he did that break-in. They wouldn't make that if he didn't do the break-in. $15 and less than 30 minutes. The first oil drain, I drained into a clear bottle. I could see aluminum bits all in the oil. But if you think it isn't worth your time and effort, more power to you. Particular is a virtue, I wasn't born with it. You want to buy a truck  To your point it takes maybe three minutes to change the oil, and a minute to drain carb, so it's a bad excuse to be lazy like me
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 10:09 PM
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Champion 3500 as in the yellow and black 3500 watt generators? If they weigh 200 lbs I’m stronger than I look Probably the none inverter model Yes, non inverter model.
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 10:18 PM
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I have a troy built 6500 watt that i purchaed at least 15 years ago. I hardly use it. Been sitting for a while. She started up on 3rd pull and saved our butts in these blackouts. I back fed my outside panel with 240 volts. 30 amp Every light and plug worked in the house and fridge and small space heater. I had tv internet cable lights and heat. Did have to turn heat off when we would run microwave. I prolly will upgrade this year to something around 12000 watts with 50 amp 240 volt feed. I also have a diesel shop heater. My garage is attached i could even run that in the garage cause it doesnt pull much amps as its fuel is diesel. The fans the onlything drawing from generator. Those little hondas are cute but no thanks unless i camping or something
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 10:30 PM
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Love my Honda generators. Have 2 eu2000i’s, one of which is Tri fuel converted and replaced a non inverter Westinghouse at the ranch with a 3000i this past year after installing a soft start capacitor on the A/C so the 3000 easily runs the root top unit. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2021/02/full-6247-281956-6448443f_f76e_4396_8ffe_256586d6cfe2.jpeg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2021/02/full-6247-281959-6f959aac_5684_4944_8a58_0f643cf74c53.jpeg) So you are able to choose your fuel source if you want to run gas, LP, or nat gas? Is there any downside to a switchover? I have not used propane with mine, just gas and NG and it’s as simple as switching a fuel switch/lever inside. I bought mine new and already converted from Central Maine Diesel as they offered the same new warranty as Honda. It is the Companion model and was a couple hundred more expensive than the standard Companion eu2000i. The quietness and extra run time the inverters with eco mode offer are a huge benefit especially in extended situations like storms when gas replenishment can be dicey.
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Re: Honda generators
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02/18/21 11:39 PM
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What do the larger Honda's cost?
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Re: Honda generators
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02/19/21 12:07 AM
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What do the larger Honda's cost?
The new honda eui7000 watt costs about $4500
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Re: Honda generators
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02/20/21 03:48 PM
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I put had issues with my EU2000s keeping fuel pressure with the external tank this week.
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Re: Honda generators
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02/20/21 04:21 PM
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Few years ago, my research led me to a Honda 2800i. The 2000 would stagfer when hitting the trigger onna circular saw, many reported. The 3000 is a 150 pound machine. No doubt a really high quality piece of equipment. But, I wanted to be able to move the generator to truck, trailer and Mule quickly, by hand. Yeah, I can do 150 pounds, but too many times of that is not good on an already sore back. The 2800i is 18" x 18" x 18" and under 80 pounds. Whole lotta power in a small package.
My thinking has always been if Honda's name is on it, it is good equipment.
And do a search on engine break-in procedures. Honda does not publish one. I searched, and it led me to a forum like this one. It was food truck guys that use generators every day. One guy had a really good break-in procedure.
Low quality Pennzoil for 5 minute idle, 5 minute 50% load, 5 minute 100% load, 5 minute idle. Drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, ^^same process^^ drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, run it an 8 hour day under various load. Drain the oil.
Full synthetic Mobile-1, run as needed. Change the oil every 100 hours. I just run mobile one and change once a year. With that said the oil change on the eu2000 pretty simple. Draining carb is it's greatest design feature. The guy that wrote those instructions claimed 10,000 hours run time when he did that break-in. They wouldn't make that if he didn't do the break-in. $15 and less than 30 minutes. The first oil drain, I drained into a clear bottle. I could see aluminum bits all in the oil. But if you think it isn't worth your time and effort, more power to you. Sounds a lot like a barrel break in 
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Re: Honda generators
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02/20/21 05:53 PM
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From what a sales guy told me on oils for the generator is very similar to what Fireman said. Use fossil fuel oil for a while to let the rings wear in properly. After that, switch to synthetic. Thanks to our recent ice and snow, I’m ready to switch over to synthetic.
Regarding the Honda 2800i, I do have one minor complaint. The oil fill port placement makes it tough to get a small funnel in place to put in the new oil.
And, I have two 2800i units. They aren’t the same totally. One model has a fuel gauge, two 110 watt and one 20 watt plugs. The other has no fuel gauge and has four 110 plugs. Perfection would be having the fuel gauge and the four 110 plugs, but that apparently isn’t an option. Not a big deal though.
All the generators are off now. On the 9th day since power went out, we have power.
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Re: Honda generators
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02/20/21 08:14 PM
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Honda has perfected the small motor.
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Honda has perfected the small motor. Pretty much the big ones too
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Honda has perfected the small motor. Pretty much the big ones too Maybe, but many have. Not many in Honda's league in the smalls.
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Re: Honda generators
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Only problem I've ever had with a Honda is a . GCV160. had a common problem of the exhaust rocker arm cracking causing hard starting mimicking valves out of adjustment.
Kawasaki and Honda are neck and neck. Kohler is a close 2nd with Briggs now dragging up the rear and Loncin a 4th.
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Re: Honda generators
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I have several Honda Inverter. I've owned an EU2000I for 15 years and have over 4400 hours on it and it still starts on first or second pull. I often use it in the field to run a flux core welder and it holds up all day. This summer I bought an EB2800i on sale for $800. And I broke it in just like Fireman said. It is what I used this outage and it performed great. It never ran dry as I would stop it and refill it every 8 hours. And I ran it for 3 days on only 6 gallons of gas with the Eco mode on. I may look into a bigger one this year to hook up to my panel for the next outage. I also run the non ethanol fuel in these that I get from Buc-ees. So don't have to worry to about carb fouling if I let them sit for a few months. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2021/02/full-18538-282369-eb2800i.jpg)
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Re: Honda generators
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02/21/21 08:28 AM
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I had the EU2000, it was a great generator but I have since sold it. I now have the Yamaha EF2000is, how are you guys running these into your breaker box and getting power to the needed items? It looks like a 115v will only power up 1 side of the panel, or do you split the incoming power and power up both sides? I have a sub panel in the house that is powered by both sides of the panel, so without rebalancing the panel or splitting the incoming signal I would only get half of that panel working. I would like to keep this one, I have been using extension cords. I am familiar with the interlock switch, just not sure if I would be better off with a 230v generator for my application
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Re: Honda generators
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My original Honda eu2000i made it over 10,000 hours and still runs but uses some oil now. My son got that unit for emergencies.
I added the magnetic oil fill plug late in its life and was shocked to see it looked like a “Chia Pet” with shavings the next time I did an oil change. I now use the magnetic oil filler plugs from day one on all my units now including the 3000i.
I also add hour meters to all mine as I’m anal about following oil change intervals. I wish Honda would step up to the plate and include them for the price we pay for their products.
One thing I thought was interesting is the 30amp plug on the Companion model is not 30 amps ((when running 2 units together) but is actually 26 amps.
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Re: Honda generators
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I had the EU2000, it was a great generator but I have since sold it. I now have the Yamaha EF2000is, how are you guys running these into your breaker box and getting power to the needed items? It looks like a 115v will only power up 1 side of the panel, or do you split the incoming power and power up both sides? I have a sub panel in the house that is powered by both sides of the panel, so without rebalancing the panel or splitting the incoming signal I would only get half of that panel working. I would like to keep this one, I have been using extension cords. I am familiar with the interlock switch, just not sure if I would be better off with a 230v generator for my application ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2021/02/full-6247-282382-a18cd9e9_9148_420f_91cc_d2ad3db1289e.jpeg) I use this 6 circuit transfer switch and chose the circuits in the house I wanted to run. 2 refrigerators, office, central HVAC fan, bedroom (for window A/C) etc. I do have to “manage” my power usage. If I can sleep cool and keep my food at safe temps I can survive. My plans were mostly aimed at warm weather backup and my issue this week would have been not having a way to power my 220 pool pump.
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