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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/17/21 10:07 PM
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Agree 150%. Texas ERCOT had a chance to join with other states' ERCOTs but declined. Think this happened under Perry's time but may be wrong.
Don't talk the talk if you didn't walk the walk.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
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02/17/21 10:28 PM
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"And then there’s the Texas exceptionalism. The state’s power grid is largely disconnected from the rest of the U.S. — for political, not technical reasons. That has left Texans largely unable to draw on power supplies from their neighbors, although many of them are suffering similar problems. Add to that a lack of any sort of capacity market that would pay generators to guarantee back-up supplies or face stiff penalties and you end up with a system that only works when everything runs smoothly." https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...onalism-not-green-energy-from-wind-farmsCharlie
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/17/21 10:39 PM
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Great post Happy Crappy.........DnB Giddyup. And 1 more thing you can know.................the price of your energy bills are going to rise now. A LOT. That happy crappy deal is part of it too. You take winter serious in an old pos trailer. Water lines freeze.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: CharlieCTx]
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02/17/21 10:40 PM
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"And then there’s the Texas exceptionalism. The state’s power grid is largely disconnected from the rest of the U.S. — for political, not technical reasons. That has left Texans largely unable to draw on power supplies from their neighbors, although many of them are suffering similar problems. Add to that a lack of any sort of capacity market that would pay generators to guarantee back-up supplies or face stiff penalties and you end up with a system that only works when everything runs smoothly." https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...onalism-not-green-energy-from-wind-farmsCharlie Yep, we can't pull from other states that aren't effected by the weather.......
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/17/21 10:58 PM
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We have done (and not done) so much stupid crap just because of idiot political optics considerations I’m beginning to wonder if it’s even possible to get back to a time where reason was the foundation for decisions.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: S.A. hunter]
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02/17/21 11:05 PM
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"And then there’s the Texas exceptionalism. The state’s power grid is largely disconnected from the rest of the U.S. — for political, not technical reasons. That has left Texans largely unable to draw on power supplies from their neighbors, although many of them are suffering similar problems. Add to that a lack of any sort of capacity market that would pay generators to guarantee back-up supplies or face stiff penalties and you end up with a system that only works when everything runs smoothly." https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...onalism-not-green-energy-from-wind-farmsCharlie Yep, we can't pull from other states that aren't effected by the weather....... Kind of like insurance, the fix is in
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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02/17/21 11:06 PM
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We have done (and not done) so much stupid crap just because of idiot political optics considerations I’m beginning to wonder if it’s even possible to get back to a time where reason was the foundation for decisions. We cant NP.................without one thing happening.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/17/21 11:41 PM
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We opted out for this very reason, of the assets that we have enrolled I bet next year they look at the financials and pull them off the program
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/18/21 12:08 AM
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I have been texting with my buddy in Fort Stockton for the last few days. He lives 2 blocks from the police department and should be on the grid that has continuous power. Nope for the last 4 days nothing on the electrical side.
He called TNMP today his provider and asked about when they might get power. The rep advised ERCOT would not give them permission to turn on that grid so nothing. He asked when it was anticipated he might have electricity and was advised ERCOT could not tell TNMP when it could/would happen.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
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02/18/21 12:08 AM
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“If this is legit”, then someone needs to be fired. Period. There was a decision made in Texas somewhere, and it screwed us all. Someone always has to be fired, or a lawsuit needs to be filed....... its the American way. In this circumstance it’s called accountability and I several hang for it.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: 7mag]
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02/18/21 12:39 AM
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I have been texting with my buddy in Fort Stockton for the last few days. He lives 2 blocks from the police department and should be on the grid that has continuous power. Nope for the last 4 days nothing on the electrical side.
He called TNMP today his provider and asked about when they might get power. The rep advised ERCOT would not give them permission to turn on that grid so nothing. He asked when it was anticipated he might have electricity and was advised ERCOT could not tell TNMP when it could/would happen. sounds like conspiracy theory bra.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/18/21 01:02 AM
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I wonder if people with the old meters not the new smart meters still have power.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/18/21 01:20 AM
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We have done (and not done) so much stupid crap just because of idiot political optics considerations I’m beginning to wonder if it’s even possible to get back to a time where reason was the foundation for decisions. We cant NP.................without one thing happening. The Big One, huh?
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: NORML as can be]
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02/18/21 01:54 AM
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I wonder if people with the old meters not the new smart meters still have power. I have thought the same thing.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: texasag93]
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02/18/21 02:05 AM
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I wonder if people with the old meters not the new smart meters still have power. I have thought the same thing. I have a smart meter and have never lost power. I thought every house has been converted to a smart meter. My REP use to send me weekly usage but they quit. I complained when I was with them before and they told me I could go on the net and get it. Not sure I want to see it right now.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: BbarVRanch]
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02/18/21 02:17 AM
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Those coal plants closed mostly because they were no longer economically viable with all the oil and gas recoveries from the Barnett Shale and Permian Basin. It’s expensive to bring coal down from Wyoming and process it into electricity. Can’t compete with cheap oil and gas.
No doubt all the environmental pressures played a role but they would have opened back up in a heartbeat over the past 4 years if the economics had worked. We had a different president who changed most of those rules, remember? There's still quite a few coal mining operations in Texas. The coal that fuels the electric generators about 5 miles from me comes from Texas. And my understanding is that Texas coal burns dirty and part of the reason to shut them down. Although I think Wyoming coal is also lignite. My sister and BIL had property about 5 miles from a coal fired generation plant in WV. Their property got condemned and they received a nice pay out. I am glad they got out of there when they did for my nieces sake. My BIL thinks the coal dust caused my sister's ocular melanoma.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/18/21 02:47 AM
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NORML as can be
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It's Freezing down here in Texas all the power lines are coming down, I say it's freezing down here in Texas all the water lines are blowing out . If we don't get some relief soon baby we'll all have to move further down south.........
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/18/21 02:56 AM
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Sadly, we may have lost our way in Texas and put politics above all else. Now, they are looking for a "Scapegoat" to axe to pay for their sins. Huh, history tends to repeat itself.
Don't talk the talk if you didn't walk the walk.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: NORML as can be]
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02/18/21 03:28 AM
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It's Freezing down here in Texas all the power lines are coming down, I say it's freezing down here in Texas all the water lines are blowing out . If we don't get some relief soon baby we'll all have to move further down south.........
Nicely done, NORML.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/18/21 03:29 AM
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Question: energy demand forecast is below supply and reserve levels on ERCOTs website, so why are we still having blackouts?
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
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02/18/21 04:52 AM
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I thought everyone had smart meters nowadays
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/18/21 05:08 AM
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Just read on the internet that Jerry Jones, owner of the Dallas Cowboys, is making "billions" off high demand by charging "Premium prices." He is very entitled to make whatever amount he can but is not like Mattress Mac of Houston who usually shows some empathy in disastrous times.
Don't talk the talk if you didn't walk the walk.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Cajun Raider]
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02/18/21 12:34 PM
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Just read on the internet that Jerry Jones, owner of the Dallas Cowboys, is making "billions" off high demand by charging "Premium prices." He is very entitled to make whatever amount he can but is not like Mattress Mac of Houston who usually shows some empathy in disastrous times. Jerry doesn't set the price. He sends it to market, the market sets the price.
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: Cajun Raider]
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02/18/21 12:48 PM
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Just read on the internet that Jerry Jones, owner of the Dallas Cowboys, is making "billions" off high demand by charging "Premium prices." He is very entitled to make whatever amount he can but is not like Mattress Mac of Houston who usually shows some empathy in disastrous times. Yeah, Mattress Mac opened all his stores as warming shelters to anyone. He's even serving them hot food at his locations. Anyone heard from Mark Cuban?
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Re: ERCOT SUKS
[Re: ducknbass]
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02/18/21 01:17 PM
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Just read on the internet that Jerry Jones, owner of the Dallas Cowboys, is making "billions" off high demand by charging "Premium prices." He is very entitled to make whatever amount he can but is not like Mattress Mac of Houston who usually shows some empathy in disastrous times. Is Jerry doesn't set the price. He sends it to market, the market sets the price. Why hate on Jerry? I dont like him one bit, but if the guy made money good for him.
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