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It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 05:57 PM
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J.G.
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I look for bullets a few times EVERY day. More often than not, target bullets can be had, but hunting bullets have been much more difficult to come by. A good example, many of us have said Hornady A-Max works very well to hunt with. And some have argued it is a target bullet and shouldn't be hunted with. It might be time for some to get more flexible with this. The Sierra Tipped Match King has also done a good job as a hunting bullet for me.
If you're worried about not recovering your animal, maybe up your shooting and blood trailing skills.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 06:10 PM
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I have hunted with amax bullets with good success. One deer and several pigs. All out of a 308 win so mild velocity. Maybe at higher speeds the target bullets will break apart more but wasn’t the case with my experience.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 06:13 PM
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J.G.
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They've done really well for me. 162 gr, 7mm-08, 2640 fps MV. Also in .260 Rem, 140 gr at 2800 fps MV.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 06:14 PM
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Gonna find out, I have 500 sierra match king on the way.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 07:19 PM
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I haven’t gotten to where target bullets are my only choice, but I have worked up a very accurate 7-08 130 SMK load with AR Comp that’ll work in a pinch.
This situation has benefitted me in the sense that I’m not being lazy with experimenting. I wasn’t interested in VV powders or heavier 7-08 bullets before. Now, 160 Sierra BTHP Gameking 7mm bullets and CFE 223 are my new favorite load. N140 is showing potential. I also wouldn’t even consider other primers beside CCI 400 and 200 before. Now, I have a brick of CCI 34’s to try.
Luckily I got 8 lbs of CFE 223 yesterday and 12 lbs of Big Game last week so I can plink more.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 07:23 PM
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Before the V-Max and other ballistic tip varmint bullets even existed, I loaded 53 and 52 grain Sierra Match King HP bullets in my .222 and .22-250 rifles. They were probably the best all round performers in those two rifles for coyote hunting that I ever loaded.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 07:46 PM
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The one deer I shot this year was at about 255 yards with a 6.5 Grendel and 123gr amax started at t 2550fps, She made it about 30 yards on her mad dash entrance just inside onside shoulder broke 2nd and 3rd rib, out through the 3rd to last rib. I have used that bullet more than the others for the Grendel and it has never failed to work well, she went the furthest of any animal I have shot with it. The only reason I went with the A-Max load on that outing was the stand had possible 290 yard shot and I knew exactly were that bullet would go out to 300 yards.
I have used 168gr 308 Sierra match kings in the 308 with good results.
Those are the 2 "target bullets" I have used hunting and know they have worked well for me
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 08:45 PM
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I wish they still made amax...I liked it a lot better than any of the eld's. Call me silly but I guess I like my tips melting
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 09:16 PM
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 10:13 PM
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1st year using the 139 gr Lapua Scenar (6.5 PRC) 1 mule deer buck, 1 axis buck, 2 cull whitetail bucks and 4 axis doe.....all of them died quickly. Behind the shoulder or in the shoulder. Performance was very good.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 10:23 PM
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I had good luck with the A-Tips from Hornady on deer. I see them in stock most stores just because they are expensive.
"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."
Jack O'Connor 1963
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/17/21 10:27 PM
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The 30 cal 168 grain Sierra SMK HPBT out of a 30-06, 300 WSM, and a 300 WM is a target bullet I’ve used to kill a lot of deer with. Large exits, easy to follow blood trails, and easy to make shoot are what keep me loading them. I can’t argue with them being too destructive for the taste of some though so don’t shoot the part you want to eat. There is a group of us that hunt a large MLD that load and shoot a lot of deer with the 30 cal 168 matchkings every year.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/18/21 12:05 AM
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[quote=kmon1]The one deer I shot this year was at about 255 yards with a 6.5 Grendel and 123gr amax started at t 2550fps, She made it about 30 yards on her mad dash entrance just inside onside shoulder broke 2nd and 3rd rib, out through the 3rd to last rib. I have used that bullet more than the others for the Grendel and it has never failed to work well, she went the furthest of any animal I have shot with it. The only reason I went with the A-Max load on that outing was the stand had possible 290 yard shot and I knew exactly were that bullet would go out to 300 yards.
I shot a buck at 60 yds with that same round but just clipped the on side shoulder and DESTROYED the other side. Got a lb or two of grind meat off of it and that was it. Bone chips everywhere. Never shot another meat animal with it.
That being said, had I put it in the right place, would have been fine.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/18/21 12:12 AM
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I wish they still made amax...I liked it a lot better than any of the eld's. Call me silly but I guess I like my tips melting Me too, they flew better too.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/18/21 12:39 AM
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I wish that I shot enough deer and hogs every year to make bullet acquisition a problem.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/18/21 01:38 AM
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Down to 400 of the 162 A-Max and I don’t have any more secret sources. I do have a lot of SMK and SST though. Been saying I’m going to load some SSTs for hunting and quit using my A-Max, but I haven’t done it yet.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/18/21 02:16 AM
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I bet I've killed nearly 50 hogs, 40+ whitetail does, and a couple of big muley bucks in the last 2 years with the 139 Scenar/6.5CM/2720 FPS at muzzle from 100-400 yds. Every deer had an exit, and 50% of the hogs did as well. It is a very effective killer, I'm convinced.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/18/21 08:45 PM
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Animals just aren't that hard to kill. Any accurate round will do.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/18/21 09:22 PM
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Animals just aren't that hard to kill. Any accurate round will do. Some do it a whole lot better than others, and some animals aren't necessarily that easy to kill.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/18/21 09:35 PM
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Animals just aren't that hard to kill. Any accurate round will do. Some do it a whole lot better than others, and some animals aren't necessarily that easy to kill. True. Elk and larger is what I think of, in that case. Whitetail, even Mule deer, pronghorn (especially), hogs in the head or neck, a whole lot of "target" labeled bullets do just fine.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/18/21 11:48 PM
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I actually talked to a guy at Barnes yesterday about a specific question I had and then ask him about the inventory problem. He said by April they should have a good amount of inventory out to distributors. Fingers crossed !!
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/19/21 12:26 AM
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Animals just aren't that hard to kill. Any accurate round will do. Some do it a whole lot better than others, and some animals aren't necessarily that easy to kill. True. Elk and larger is what I think of, in that case. Whitetail, even Mule deer, pronghorn (especially), hogs in the head or neck, a whole lot of "target" labeled bullets do just fine. Elk go down easy with a 168gr Amax.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/19/21 03:55 AM
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I’ve heard people recommend Lapua Sceners for hunting.
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/19/21 05:58 AM
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At this point a bullet is a bullet no matter who made it and they will all kill if you do your part..
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Re: It might be time for some to consider bullets labeled as "target" for hunting.
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02/19/21 11:00 AM
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Even before this bullet scare I shot Match168 BTHPs for deer and hogs. I always hunted with a HP before they became a match bullet and the ammo companies tried to one up the others with a new name or cooler look.
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