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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: GNTX]
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02/16/21 02:42 AM
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how are those windmills doing now?! Apparently, they’re doing okay according to this article. https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/texas-power-grid-crumples-under-the-cold/ While some early reports indicated that frozen wind turbines were causing significant shortfalls, 30GW is roughly equal to the entire state's wind capacity if every turbine is producing all the power it's rated for. Since wind generally tends to produce less during winter, there's no way that the grid operators would have planned for getting 30GW from wind generation; in fact, a chart at ERCOT indicates that wind is producing significantly more than forecast West Texas was the start of the problems last night..... I wonder if it was because of the windmills.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/16/21 02:42 AM
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Here in Coppell (DFW area), power went off at 2:00am, came back on at 7:00pm for an hour. It's 40 degrees in the house. I have been camping in colder weather, this just seems really cold. Maybe a warmer tomorrow.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: 5 Stand Dan]
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02/16/21 02:50 AM
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Here in Coppell (DFW area), power went off at 2:00am, came back on at 7:00pm for an hour. It's 40 degrees in the house. I have been camping in colder weather, this just seems really cold. Maybe a warmer tomorrow. It ain't so much that ( although personal comfort does figure to a lesser degree) the house is old and although I wrapped and re wrapped all the plumbing a long time ago, all this off on off on off on off on off on is not good at all for the electrical appliances in the house, and the pipes would be fine with no worries if I can keep some half way steady heat in the house
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: S.A. hunter]
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02/16/21 02:57 AM
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how are those windmills doing now?! Apparently, they’re doing okay according to this article. https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/texas-power-grid-crumples-under-the-cold/ While some early reports indicated that frozen wind turbines were causing significant shortfalls, 30GW is roughly equal to the entire state's wind capacity if every turbine is producing all the power it's rated for. Since wind generally tends to produce less during winter, there's no way that the grid operators would have planned for getting 30GW from wind generation; in fact, a chart at ERCOT indicates that wind is producing significantly more than forecast West Texas was the start of the problems last night..... I wonder if it was because of the windmills. My buddy has a dozen of them on his ranch and he just told me they all stopped last night. First time they’ve ever done it.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
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02/16/21 03:10 AM
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Why are lights on in downtown Dallas, why are street lights on, why are any lights on in office buildings?
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: Stump_jumper]
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02/16/21 03:13 AM
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Why are lights on in downtown Dallas, why are street lights on, why are any lights on in office buildings? Yep. Power has been off here since 2:30 am yesterday morning. Has not been back on since
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: Stump_jumper]
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02/16/21 03:14 AM
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Why are lights on in downtown Dallas, why are street lights on, why are any lights on in office buildings? The lights are using very little electricity compared to their heating. All those building have fire sprinkler systems that must be kept from freezing or there will be millions and millions of dollars in damages. Already quite a few issues in Temple with sprinkler systems freezing in buildings. Temple mall has already had two lines bust and pour water into the building.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: Stump_jumper]
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02/16/21 03:19 AM
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Why are lights on in downtown Dallas, why are street lights on, why are any lights on in office buildings? Why wouldn't they be?
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/16/21 03:20 AM
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Been with out power since 3 am. Have about 10 blankets on us in bed. Going to need them to roll some this way soon pretty soon.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: MR5Hunter]
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02/16/21 03:21 AM
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Why are lights on in downtown Dallas, why are street lights on, why are any lights on in office buildings? Yep. Power has been off here since 2:30 am yesterday morning. Has not been back on since You are not in a rolling black out. I'm almost certain its a power line issue.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: maximum]
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02/16/21 03:34 AM
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No, not really. If the plumbing or whatever goes south because of the power cutting off, no it won't be ok. If more power is being sold to new customers than can be provided that's not good If you've been off for 16 hours its not because of a rolling blackout. Maybe a downed line or blown transformer? We have been on for 30 mins, off for 30 mins pretty much all day. That is a rolling blackout.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: unclebubba]
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02/16/21 03:40 AM
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No, not really. If the plumbing or whatever goes south because of the power cutting off, no it won't be ok. If more power is being sold to new customers than can be provided that's not good If you've been off for 16 hours its not because of a rolling blackout. Maybe a downed line or blown transformer? We have been on for 30 mins, off for 30 mins pretty much all day. That is a rolling blackout. Yep people are getting the two confused.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/16/21 04:01 AM
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Guess it's our turn, power went off for the first time. Fireplaces are burning and warm
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: SapperTitan]
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02/16/21 04:23 AM
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Why are lights on in downtown Dallas, why are street lights on, why are any lights on in office buildings? The lights are using very little electricity compared to their heating. All those building have fire sprinkler systems that must be kept from freezing or there will be millions and millions of dollars in damages. Already quite a few issues in Temple with sprinkler systems freezing in buildings. Temple mall has already had two lines bust and pour water into the building. Don't give an F about those office buildings. What about the potential for broken pipes in a million homes ?
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/16/21 04:25 AM
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Ours went out at 6:30, came back on at 8:30. Fired up the wood stove and the generator. 2 hours wasn’t bad, it was still early.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: nak]
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02/16/21 04:26 AM
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Why are lights on in downtown Dallas, why are street lights on, why are any lights on in office buildings? The lights are using very little electricity compared to their heating. All those building have fire sprinkler systems that must be kept from freezing or there will be millions and millions of dollars in damages. Already quite a few issues in Temple with sprinkler systems freezing in buildings. Temple mall has already had two lines bust and pour water into the building. Don't give an F about those office buildings. What about the potential for broken pipes in a million homes ? What about 1000s of people out of work and businesses going out of business because they can’t afford to fix the problems. It goes both ways. As a home owner it’s our responsibility to protect our assets as in our homes and it’s a companies job to protect their assets. At the same time it shouldn’t be an issue for any of us bc our grid should be capable of supplying us all power.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
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02/16/21 05:58 AM
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[quote=Stump_jumper]Why are lights on in downtown Dallas, why are street lights on, why are any lights on in office buildings? The lights are using very little electricity compared to their heating. All those building have fire sprinkler systems that must be kept from freezing or there will be millions and millions of dollars in damages. Already quite a few issues in Temple with sprinkler systems freezing in buildings. Temple mall has already had two lines bust and pour water into the building. Don't give an F about those office buildings. What about the potential for broken pipes in a million homes ? What about 1000s of people out of work and businesses going out of business because they can’t afford to fix the problems. It goes both ways. As a home owner it’s our responsibility to protect our assets as in our homes and it’s a companies job to protect their assets. At the same time it shouldn’t be an issue for any of us bc our grid should be capable of supplying us all power. I agree, we shouldn’t be having this issue with what we all pay for electricity, I can see it now in the headlines. Due to the damage received from the cold weather we will be passing the cost of repairs on to our customers for our own stupidity even though we destroyed hundreds of millions of dollars worth of private property from our own shortcomings. We will try harder next time
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: unclebubba]
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02/16/21 06:04 AM
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No, not really. If the plumbing or whatever goes south because of the power cutting off, no it won't be ok. If more power is being sold to new customers than can be provided that's not good If you've been off for 16 hours its not because of a rolling blackout. Maybe a downed line or blown transformer? We have been on for 30 mins, off for 30 mins pretty much all day. That is a rolling blackout. No power line issue here. Customer service phone line says rolling blackout. THEY said that, not me
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: maximum]
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02/16/21 06:13 AM
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No, not really. If the plumbing or whatever goes south because of the power cutting off, no it won't be ok. If more power is being sold to new customers than can be provided that's not good If you've been off for 16 hours its not because of a rolling blackout. Maybe a downed line or blown transformer? We have been on for 30 mins, off for 30 mins pretty much all day. That is a rolling blackout. No power line issue here. Customer service phone line says rolling blackout. THEY said that, not me The recording may be a broad brush, if you’ve been out that long it’s a problem in the line somewhere. Why let a great excuse go to waste when you can blame it on someone else. The next time you call it might say due to the rolling black outs and a Covid 19 outbreak.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/16/21 07:04 AM
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Talked to one of the lineman today after chasing gas and My provider ( co op) says rolling blackouts forced by ercot. Today been 45 minutes on 2 to 4 hours off. How do I know , just put the kubota bobcat back on line 12 45 am . Juice went off at 8 30 pm.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: nak]
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02/16/21 07:33 AM
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Why are lights on in downtown Dallas, why are street lights on, why are any lights on in office buildings? The lights are using very little electricity compared to their heating. All those building have fire sprinkler systems that must be kept from freezing or there will be millions and millions of dollars in damages. Already quite a few issues in Temple with sprinkler systems freezing in buildings. Temple mall has already had two lines bust and pour water into the building. Don't give an F about those office buildings. What about the potential for broken pipes in a million homes ? It’s been a long time since this has occurred. Times have changed. People will die tonight in their homes due the inept companies and commissions that run the power system for Texas. I predict wrongful death lawsuits by the weekend.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
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02/16/21 10:44 AM
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No, not really. If the plumbing or whatever goes south because of the power cutting off, no it won't be ok. If more power is being sold to new customers than can be provided that's not good If you've been off for 16 hours its not because of a rolling blackout. Maybe a downed line or blown transformer? We have been on for 30 mins, off for 30 mins pretty much all day. That is a rolling blackout. Yep people are getting the two confused. Read several articles yesterday that a lot of folks are without power for a prolonged period of time because generating plants have failed because of over generating
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/16/21 10:56 AM
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Read several articles yesterday that a lot of folks are without power for a prolonged period of time because generating plants have failed because of over generating
Most have failed because it is next to impossible to keep one up in these conditions. In colder climates, power plants have contingency plans for this weather. The ROI down here doesn't justify the additional investment.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
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02/16/21 12:21 PM
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Safe and sound this morning.
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Re: rolling blackouts in texas
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02/16/21 12:23 PM
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2nd night in a row with no power.
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